need a reccomendation on a good 17" monitor w/o tension lines.

dinde

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well, those lines really annoy me. and i was looking for a new 17" monitor (flat screen) in my price range, which is about 350$ canadian.

hope i can get something good for that price.

thanx



 

Audiofight

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I just picked up a KDS 17" True Flat monitor for $118.47 locally. I will power it up tomorrow and let you know how I like the picture.


By the way.....what the heck are tension lines? I have used cheap monitors all my life and never noticed anything drastically wrong with any of them. Some are fuzzy, some aren't. But, that is normal with cheap 15" monitors and really low-end 17" ones with a high dot pitch, like .29 or so.
 

dinde

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im talking about those lines that go across the screen, like the trinitrons have. (the guy at the store said thats what they were called)
 

kylebisme

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well as far as i am conserned, all good monitors have those lines; so i guess i am not any help to you. :)
 

btalbott

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Yes, those are aperature grill lines. I'm still using mine from 1996, but I just ordered a 19" LCD. Time to retire the old guy.
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Trinitron monitors, which were created by Sony, use a different style of making technology known as the aperture grill. Where the shadow mask is a single piece of perforated metal, the aperature grill is made up of a series of thin metal strips sitting in a top-to-bottom alignment. While structurally different, the two masks perform the basic function - masking the electrom beam from un-targeted pixels. The aperture grill design has a few effects on the final picture that some notice, some do not. First, some say that the picture is brighter on Trinitron monitors because the aperture grill allows more energy from the electrom beam through than does the shadow mask. Some say the picture is clearer overall. Also, the shape of the screen is said to have reduced glare potential than the shadow mask design. Since the metal strips in the aperture grill run from top to bottom and are straight, these monitors have screens that are flat from top to bottom, but curve slightly from left to right. Shadow mask monitors typically are slightly curved over the entire screen surface (unless you have a bonified flat-screen CRT). One complaint some people have is the appearance of little lines in the screen, usually very dull, but there nonetheless. This is because, on larger screen sizes, the small metal strips in the grill can actually vibrate slightly. Manufacturers inserted a few tiny wires to go across the grill from left to right in order to stabilize the grill. Some say they can detect the reflections on the screen of the lines where these stabilizing wires are.
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Bill

Oh yeah, if I remember correctly, I paid ~ $625 for this 17" monitor back in '96. Glad they aren't that expensive today.
 

mrzed

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That's a huge budget for a 17".

If you simply don't have the space for a 19", then you should be able to get top of the line. Just be aware that most 17 high end for $350 canadian are going to be aperture grille (2 lines), if you spend that much on shadow mask (no lines) you are probably paying too much.

Samsung 955df is in your price range. There is a review on the Anandtech main page (too lazy to link right now) if you want a second opinion. It's a 19 with no lines and can manage 1600x1200 (but only at 65hz IIRC).

 

dinde

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mrzed, i heard that those monitors soemes have blurry spots. do you, or anyne else have experiance with this/these kinds of monitors?