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ElBurro

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Originally posted by: faxon
if you shouldn't be defragging your hard drive often, then how come vista does it automatically, constantly, whenever the comp is powered on in windows? it's obviously important to system performance and stability or they wouldnt have put that feature into vista.

Why does Vista constantly ask people if they really want to do things they obviously do want to do. (uac) Why does Vista take up more system resources than any other OS. Why does Vista not put games into the same menu as other programs and instead puts them into the obtuse games explorer. Point is just because something is in Vista doesn't mean it should be.
 

Nothinman

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if you shouldn't be defragging your hard drive often, then how come vista does it automatically, constantly, whenever the comp is powered on in windows? it's obviously important to system performance and stability or they wouldnt have put that feature into vista.

Because in some cases it does matter, i.e. loading of large game levels, but in the basic usage of browsing, email, document writing, spreadsheets, etc the effect of fragmentation is virtually zero.

Why does Vista constantly ask people if they really want to do things they obviously do want to do. (uac)

Because it's not always obvious, tons of Windows apps do things that you might not want them to do all of the time.
 

taltamir

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Originally posted by: ElBurro
Originally posted by: faxon
if you shouldn't be defragging your hard drive often, then how come vista does it automatically, constantly, whenever the comp is powered on in windows? it's obviously important to system performance and stability or they wouldnt have put that feature into vista.

Why does Vista constantly ask people if they really want to do things they obviously do want to do. (uac) Why does Vista take up more system resources than any other OS. Why does Vista not put games into the same menu as other programs and instead puts them into the obtuse games explorer. Point is just because something is in Vista doesn't mean it should be.

HERATIC! DO NOT DOUBT OUR MICROSOFT OVERLORDS!
 

faxon

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rofl i disabled UAC the second i installed vista. apparently the new win7 version wont be as shitty now tho

update on the comp: so some of the ram was bad. it had a whack assed mem configuration with 2x256mb sticks, a 512mb stick, and a 1GB stick. both of the 256mb sticks were dead, one with over 170k bad bits. the 1GB stick popped up 2 bad bits total in 10 hours of passes on that stick, so i upped the voltage .05v to see if it goes away (ram wasnt at top of its voltage spec yet). hopefully it wont error again, i really want to be done with this thing lol.
 

Nothinman

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rofl i disabled UAC the second i installed vista. apparently the new win7 version wont be as shitty now tho

According to Ars UAC in Win7 is pretty much pointless, anyone can bypass it with very little effort.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
rofl i disabled UAC the second i installed vista. apparently the new win7 version wont be as shitty now tho

According to Ars UAC in Win7 is pretty much pointless, anyone can bypass it with very little effort.

That was fixed in later beta builds.
 

faxon

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: Nothinman
rofl i disabled UAC the second i installed vista. apparently the new win7 version wont be as shitty now tho

According to Ars UAC in Win7 is pretty much pointless, anyone can bypass it with very little effort.

That was fixed in later beta builds.

ya its the later beta builds i was talking about. i have the latest beta build up on my 939 machine as a test bed for stuff im worried about, since im hoping to upgrade to win7 when it comes out (assuming it is in fact an upgrade).
 

nestlewater

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Originally posted by: faxon
yea i have a lot of analysis shit to do. i ended up just going to bed last night. sounded like a police siren was comming from the comp tho in the bathroom (high beep low beep high beep low beep constantly), but temps were fine (50c idle on the core, 35 on the chipsets). mobo is an Abit IS7 (865P Chipset), cpu is a stock speed 2.8GHz Northwood W/HT. i will try popping memtest into it and letting it run while im at work and overnight just to get that out of the way. the comp needs a total system tear down anyway for cleaning reasons as well so i will examine the components 1 by 1 when i do it as well. i got my work cut out for me it seems hehe. hoping i can just find a 939 X2 cpu for my old comp and i can just give him that rig tho, this one is getting really hard to troubleshoot since the shit in it is so old and the PSU is probably going to cut out next, which i cant replace and they cant afford.

ed: 8.2mb into the test memtest already found 1 error. guess i get to let it run for more while im at work. sucks, i ran memtest on it for a week back before i sold it, one of the sticks must have gone bad =(

ed2: fuck, it crashed while running memtest with that weee wooo weee wooo non stop beep again. it found a bunch more errors on the way there as well. looks like i know where to start when i get home /sigh

IS7??? Booo, pic up an IC7 Woooooot 4GHZ northwood BAMMMM, I don't care what people say, That shit is as fast today as it was back then. If only it supported some DDR2.