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Need a new CD player

tinpanalley

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A CD player I've had for over 10 years might be dying so I feel like I need something to replace it that will be able to stand the test of time if well taken care of but I know that in many cases older machines might be better than something new. I don't need anything special, I own no SACDs, but I'd like to think about getting something better than what I have (a Tivoli: Model CD) so that I can see for myself what it is exactly that can sound so much better in a nicer CD player, as I keep hearing when people tell me that my Tivoli wasn't very good. I consider myself an audiophile and I don't think I've ever found it to be lacking in any way, but tech is tech and if it really is lacking, then I'm all ears to considering something better.

I have no idea where to begin here. Older used model, new one that everyone thinks is the solid all round performer even if not the most expensive (usually the case). I'd say my budget is sort of unknown as I don't know what I'm shopping for but let's put an arbitrary $300 Canadian on it. I know that that alone will make people laugh, I've heard of CD players going for well over 1000.

Thanks for any help!
 

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I liked my Onkyo C-7030 before I gave up on actually loading CDs and just used the Bluetooth and Spotify features in my receiver. Still lying around unused and it’s apparently worth twice what I paid 7 years ago …
 

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Thanks for the tips, guys. I like that marantz. But I'm curious, to learn, what is it that made you know to recommend that particular player?
 

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Thanks for the tips, guys. I like that marantz. But I'm curious, to learn, what is it that made you know to recommend that particular player?
Availability and price point. CD players dissapeared in the consumer market. You usually get a blu ray player, but you have to pay alot to get one with good CD playback.

Personally I would get a BluRay player and see if its analogue out is better than using the receiver's DAC and decide where to do the conversion. It's a 38 year old tech, so not much innovation.
 
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Don't all blu-ray players play audio CDs? I have an el-cheapo blu-ray player that I use to play audio CDs on the rare occasions I need to and never noticed any problems.

I still buy quite a few CDs but I immediately rip them to FLAC on my computer (using Exact Audio Copy-free and great). Just replaced the internal CD reader/burner on my desktop computer for less than $20US.

Speaking of cheap, about a month I was walking through Walmart and saw a blu-ray player for about $25US with a sticker on the box saying it included (3-5, I forget the exact number) free redbox rentals. That's getting close to a zero net cost.
 

tinpanalley

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Availability and price point. CD players dissapeared in the consumer market. You usually get a blu ray player, but you have to pay alot to get one with good CD playback.

Personally I would get a BluRay player and see if its analogue out is better than using the receiver's DAC and decide where to do the conversion. It's a 38 year old tech, so not much innovation.
I've got a PS4 and PS3 but they're not connected to the stereo receiver in the same way as the other components and you'd need to have the TV on for a display. Sort of annoying.
 

sdifox

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I've got a PS4 and PS3 but they're not connected to the stereo receiver in the same way as the other components and you'd need to have the TV on for a display. Sort of annoying.
Then get a blu ray player with a lcd display and hardware playback buttonson the faceplate.

You don't have any old dvd player lying around? I stil have my Pioneer DV-505 from 1997. Also have a 3 CD player/ MD recorder and a 60 CD changer.
 
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tinpanalley

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Then get a bly ray player with a lcd display and hardware playback buttonson the faceplate.

You don't have any old dvd player lyong around? I stil have my Pioneer DV-505 from 1997. Also have a 3 CD player/ MD recorder and a 60 CD changer.
I do, I have a Philips DVP-6950 I bought in 2006 because it was easy to make region-free. But how could that possibly be better than the Marantz you showed me?
 

sdifox

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I do, I have a Philips DVP-6950 I bought in 2006 because it was easy to make region-free. But how could that possibly be better than the Marantz you showed me?
300 bux cheaper. Hook it up, try it out. If you are not happy then buy the Marantz.
I would rather spend the 300 on content.
My home theatre setup cost me ten grand, but my content is around 40 grand.
 
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tinpanalley

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300 bux cheaper. Hook it up, try it out. If you are not happy then buy the Marantz.
I would rather spend the 300 on content.
My home theatre setup cost me ten grand, but my content is around 40 grand.
What do I look for if I want to compare specs? Between these two or any other. The marantz doesn't seem to specify what kind of DAC it has? But the dynamic range on the marantz does have a far deeper lower end.
 

sdifox

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What do I look for if I want to compare specs? Between these two or any other. The marantz doesn't seem to specify what kind of DAC it has? But the dynamic range on the marantz does have a far deeper lower end.
No one buying pro gear care about what hardware is in it. They just care that it works and will keep working. They do have a threshold they have to meet to be in pro market.

The whole dac marketing thing is aimed at consumers.
 
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tinpanalley

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No one buying pro gear care anout what hardware is in it. They just care that it works and will keep working. They do have a threshold they have to meet to be in pro market.

The whole dac marketing thing is aimed at consumers.
Ok, but pro gear has some discernable difference from consumer gear, doesn't it? My Philips DVD player cant be the same as a 300 CD player can it?
 

tinpanalley

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Why not? CD is old tech, it doesn't take much to get decent playback.
Alright.. Well then, and this is sheer ignorance on my part, and perhaps getting more philosophical than we expected to get but then is more expensive gear purely there for the self gratification of people with lots of money to spend to make themselves feel more savvy about tech than they actually are? The internet seems flooded with people willing to believe you dont get good sound for less than $1500 (as I say this I can hear you and even myself saying "the internet is flooded with people willing to believe lots of things ..")
 

sdifox

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Alright.. Well then, and this is sheer ignorance on my part, and perhaps getting more philosophical than we expected to get but then is more expensive gear purely there for the self gratification of people with lots of money to spend to make themselves feel more savvy about tech than they actually are? The internet seems flooded with people willing to believe you dont get good sound for less than $1500 (as I say this I can hear you and even myself saying "the internet is flooded with people willing to believe lots of things ..")

AV world is full of snake oil salesmen and lots of willing believers. This predates the internet. Hookup the Phillips dvd player, stick in an album you are intimately familiar with and listen. If you like the sound, use it. Otherwise buy a dedicated CD player.

Also, isn't your current player still working? What makes you think it is dying?
 
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tinpanalley

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Hookup the Phillips dvd player, stick in an album you are intimately familiar with and listen.
Doing that right now.
Also, isn't your current player still working? What makes you think it is dying?
Buzzing and crackling no matter how I connect it. Tivoli wrote me back and said,

"This isn't a known issue with this product, but if you're hearing a buzzing sound with the unit on, then in my experience it's most likely a power supply issue. I recommend replacing the power cord for your Model CD"


They link to this but don't ship to Canada. I suppose I can find any other on Amazon or Ebay?
 

sdifox

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Lol a wallwart? You just need to find one with the same voltage, same or bigger amperage and same size barrel connector. There is a polarity so check your current one and match that. Usually the inside is positive, but you never know. I can tell you that is not a very good CD player lol. Clock radios have internal power supply.

I never get rid of my wallwarts, you never know when you need one.
 
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tinpanalley

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Lol a wallwart? You just need to find one with the same voltage, same or bigger amperage and same size barrel connector. There is a polarity so check your current one and match that. Usually the inside is positive, but you never know. I can tell you that is not a very good CD player lol. Clock radios have internal power supply.

I never get rid of my wallwarts, you never know when you need one.
So wallwart indicates a less than optimal cd player because it has no built in power supply? Is that more or less it?
 

sdifox

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So wallwart indicates a less than optimal cd player because it has no built in power supply? Is that more or less it?
Normally you have the power supply inside. That way you can control noise. Mind you, Tivoli is probably doing it that way to reduce the cabinet size.
 
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