need a matx mb for a e6550 (budget build)

[SpeedEng66]

im kinda slow on new mb's
everyone keeps talking about the p35 but there's no p35 in a matx correct?

so my only choice is a g31 and g33? are they anygood in light overclock (hope I can get 2.8 out of the e6550)

 

[AmberClad]

I would look into the ASUS P5K-VM or the Gigabyte G33M (geem? ). Both of those are G33s. Very few (if any) P chipset mATX boards.

 

[SpeedEng66]

thanks for the heads up I would never figure that p5k-vm = a g33 chip (I thought that they always put in the chip model in the mb's name)

btw what does it mean when they put this?

FSB1333-CPU will operate in overclocking mode

does that mean thats the max fsb that it will run or im ocing everything including the pci bus just tog get to 1333 from 1066fsb?

 

[AmberClad]

Yeah, some of the manufacturers tend to use somewhat obscure codenames. In this case, I would venture a guess and say that P5 = Core, V = video (onboard), and M = micro. No idea what the K means, or how they expect you to know which video chipset is used .

As far as the second part of your question -- is that referring to the ASRock Conroe 1333? I'm not completely sure about the "FSB1333-CPU will operate in overclocking mode". There seems to be an additional note: "Under this situation, PCIE frequency will also be overclocked to 115MHz".

On my G965 board, overclocking the PCIe bus excessively (125MHz and higher) apparently causes SATA controller problems. Someone left a review on that ASRock 1333 page complaining about SATA corruption -- that may or may not be related.

 

[SpeedEng66]

thank you so much I guess I might have to spend some loot either that or buy another case

 

[teclis1023]

I've had a LOT of luck with the Intel DQ35JO boards. The company I work for ships out easily over 100 per week, and we haven't had any come back to us.

They're pretty inexpensive, I think.

 

[SpeedEng66]

that board looks really cool it even has 4 slots for memory (for a matx )

but im assuming since it's a intel board there wont be any overclocking on this

 

[hans007]

if you want to overclock you porbably want the gigabyte g33 board. the ds2 or s2.


the g33 and p35 are more or less the same chip (they are the same die, the p35 just has the graphics part turned off)

 

[Denithor]

Originally posted by: AmberClad
As far as the second part of your question -- is that referring to the ASRock Conroe 1333? I'm not completely sure about the "FSB1333-CPU will operate in overclocking mode". There seems to be an additional note: "Under this situation, PCIE frequency will also be overclocked to 115MHz."

I have this board--can't even get 10MHz extra speed out of it, even setting the pci-e to async for overclocking. No joy here. Keeping it for a budget build for someone (cost $15 to RMA it, only cost $50 to begin with).

Instead, get AT's recommendation from their budget build article, the Gigabyte GA-73UM-S2H based on the GeForce 7150 chipset. This one has native support for 1333 so you shouldn't have any troubles with overclocking.

If you want to stick with an Intel chipset, there is a good-looking Foxconn G33M that is a bit cheaper and also fully supports 1333.

 

[AmberClad]

Originally posted by: Denithor
there is a good-looking Foxconn G33M that is a bit cheaper and also fully supports 1333.

For shame...they switched the position of the PCIe x16 and the PCIe x1, and got rid of the eSATA and S/PDIF ports. All they give you in return is the serial port that's missing on the G965 version.

Some manufacturers just can't leave well enough alone .

 

[SpeedEng66]

Originally posted by: Denithor

Originally posted by: AmberClad
As far as the second part of your question -- is that referring to the ASRock Conroe 1333? I'm not completely sure about the "FSB1333-CPU will operate in overclocking mode". There seems to be an additional note: "Under this situation, PCIE frequency will also be overclocked to 115MHz."

I have this board--can't even get 10MHz extra speed out of it, even setting the pci-e to async for overclocking. No joy here. Keeping it for a budget build for someone (cost $15 to RMA it, only cost $50 to begin with).

Instead, get AT's recommendation from their budget build article, the Gigabyte GA-73UM-S2H based on the GeForce 7150 chipset. This one has native support for 1333 so you shouldn't have any troubles with overclocking.

If you want to stick with an Intel chipset, there is a good-looking Foxconn G33M that is a bit cheaper and also fully supports 1333.

yea I just read that article today!


lol now im really split!?!
I have a x800xl that I was going to use in this new build
but the gigabyte has a dvi/hdmi built in which will work great as a htpc danm you heh

I think Im going to just sell the x800 and pick up the gb

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: SpeedEng66

Originally posted by: Denithor

Originally posted by: AmberClad
As far as the second part of your question -- is that referring to the ASRock Conroe 1333? I'm not completely sure about the "FSB1333-CPU will operate in overclocking mode". There seems to be an additional note: "Under this situation, PCIE frequency will also be overclocked to 115MHz."

I have this board--can't even get 10MHz extra speed out of it, even setting the pci-e to async for overclocking. No joy here. Keeping it for a budget build for someone (cost $15 to RMA it, only cost $50 to begin with).

Instead, get AT's recommendation from their budget build article, the Gigabyte GA-73UM-S2H based on the GeForce 7150 chipset. This one has native support for 1333 so you shouldn't have any troubles with overclocking.

If you want to stick with an Intel chipset, there is a good-looking Foxconn G33M that is a bit cheaper and also fully supports 1333.

yea I just read that article today!


lol now im really split!?!
I have a x800xl that I was going to use in this new build
but the gigabyte has a dvi/hdmi built in which will work great as a htpc danm you heh

I think Im going to just sell the x800 and pick up the gb

i wouldnt ge tthe 7150. i mean why would you... its single channel memory and the nvidia chipsets also use more power than the G3x series.

 

[SpeedEng66]

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: SpeedEng66

Originally posted by: Denithor

Originally posted by: AmberClad
As far as the second part of your question -- is that referring to the ASRock Conroe 1333? I'm not completely sure about the "FSB1333-CPU will operate in overclocking mode". There seems to be an additional note: "Under this situation, PCIE frequency will also be overclocked to 115MHz."

I have this board--can't even get 10MHz extra speed out of it, even setting the pci-e to async for overclocking. No joy here. Keeping it for a budget build for someone (cost $15 to RMA it, only cost $50 to begin with).

Instead, get AT's recommendation from their budget build article, the Gigabyte GA-73UM-S2H based on the GeForce 7150 chipset. This one has native support for 1333 so you shouldn't have any troubles with overclocking.

If you want to stick with an Intel chipset, there is a good-looking Foxconn G33M that is a bit cheaper and also fully supports 1333.

yea I just read that article today!


lol now im really split!?!
I have a x800xl that I was going to use in this new build
but the gigabyte has a dvi/hdmi built in which will work great as a htpc danm you heh

I think Im going to just sell the x800 and pick up the gb

i wouldnt ge tthe 7150. i mean why would you... its single channel memory and the nvidia chipsets also use more power than the G3x series.

oh wow I didnt catch that it's single channel

thanks!!

 

[Skott]

IMO if you want good overclocking get the DS2R or the P5K-VM. They are the two best Intel mATX OCing mobos at the moment.