need a little advice on amd 64 bit (answered)

Aleksandar

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i am planing on selling my Pc P4 so i can get an amd cpu 64 bit and i what to make the swich to ddr2 and pci-e i cant find a mother board that evan supports pci-e.
now i know there will be a new cheap set Nf4 for amd will it support ddr2 or just pci-e and when will it be avalable?
 

ts3433

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What kind of P4 do you have right now? If it's high-end enough, an upgrade may be pointless.

The NForce4 is going to support PCIe, but not DDR2. DDR2 is a waste anyway, and aside from SLIing, PCIe has no benefit now either.
 

Sonic587

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As for DDR2, don't hold your breath. It's a big waste of money right now. The A64 is NOT starved for memory bandwidth like the P4s were. AMD will adopt it if they need to, but right now it's 110% worthless.

NF4 should be here by the end of the year.
 

ts3433

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I would advise holding on to your current setup for now, because I wouldn't forsee a very big performance increase from 3.3 GHz to a 3500+.
 

Hyperlite

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that is, of course, unless you plan on doing some overclocking. personlly, i would suggest getting the 90nm 3000+ and just OC the thing right up to 2.5ghz.
 

gobucks

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Your DDR500 will work great on an nForce4 setup. If you get one of the new 90nm Athlon 64s, they overclock really well, so you should be able to get some use out of that memory. For example, the 2.0GHz 3200+ can overclock to 2.6GHz on high end air, so 2.5 should be pretty easy. This would give you some nice performance, somewhere in the ballpark of the new 3.46GHz P4EE, maybe even better. I've seen overclocked 3000+ processors beat the FX-55 at default speeds. As for DDR2, it's not coming for a while on the AMD front. They won't support it until 667MHz or 800MHz, depending on how the situation is at that time. Anyways, if you go look at the reviews of the new 3.46GHz P4EE, you'll notice that even with Intel's new 1066MHz FSB, they still don't get great gains from going to DDR2 533. Gains by AMD would be even less substantial; AMD's integrated memory controller is much more sensitive to latency than bandwidth, so until low-latency DDR2 gets fast enough, it's pretty pointless. Throw in the fact that it's like twice the cost, and it's pretty much worthless for the time being. Anyways, if you get an nForce4 mobo and a 3000+ or 3200+, you'll get great performance and a wonderful upgrade path. AMD will be making dual core processors on 939 that are compatible with today's mainboards, and the PCIe slots will ensure that you have plenty of graphics/peripheral upgrade potential as well. These nForce4 boards are supposed to be out within 2 weeks, but we'll see. Definitely before christmas, nVidia is not stupid enough to miss out on that buying season. I imagine the first boards will hit in week 2 of november, with a decent variety by week 1 of december. Not too long, and worth the wait if it is as good as they say it is. Whatever you do, though, I wouldn't upgrade to anything without PCIe, since otherwise it's not that much of a step up for you.
 

Aleksandar

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Thanks man i will wait for the nf4 to come out and i will sell my pc all of it noti in parts but i will make shure i get some nice low latency ram and i will definitely overclock the cpu.