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[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: SinfulWeeper
Well, I would not say pack a day. More like a quarter ounce a day. How many joints is a quarter ounce? Or how many bowls is it? For the quarter ounce a day people, I know 7 of them. How they get the money to smoke that much is really beyond me.
I smoke 3/4 a pack of cigs a day. Thats only $4 a pack. A quarter around my part of the world is $125.

How old are you and these people? I would be very skeptical of someone claiming to smoke a 1/4 ounce per day. I would be ten times more skeptical if its a teenager. Younger people tend to exaggerate how much weed they smoke in a pathetic attempt to look cool, similar to the way some people try to brag about how much alcohol they drink.

I know at least two people that smoke about 1/4 ounce per day. And one of them is a millionaire businessman. Both of them are productive people running businesses.

As I said, smoking more weed after you're high is a waste of weed. You cannot overdose on it, so smoking too much isn't dangerous, it's simply a waste. The cost of weed doesn't really matter to anyone with a decent job, let alone a millionaire. You can smoke a blunt filled with an ounce, but you'll just fall asleep before it's done.

Btw, regular smokers I know go through an eighth in 3 days to a week. Maybe your friends are smoking mid-to-low quality weed?

a 1/4 can eaisily be smoked in a day by 1 person, you would be high the entire day but its not that uncommon, hell ive smoked out of bongs that you could almost pack an 1/8th in at once

there are efficient and inefficient ways to smoke
joints are efficient
bongs are not

Um, not really. Joints are constantly on fire, and a lot of smoke is wasted while hitting it. With bongs, you get all the smoke (pack snappers) from all the weed. Plus, bongs get you soooooooo much higher (way more smoke).

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: Marinski
whos smokin dat purple shit?

This is SoCal, son. Purple Kushes are common here. Purple Master Kush is some fire.

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: sonambulo

Originally posted by: SinfulWeeperYou ever grow your own tobacco? Then you can probably say the same. Most people who buy pot to get high buy it from someone else who got it from the growers. To get yield, much like tobacco, you have to use plant growth stuff. Who knows what makes it grow so fast?, I certainly do not.

Back in high school in the science class a friend of mine had put a marijuana seed in with the other plants that were growing all using the same soil. I can assure you, it grew slow. In fact it took the teacher 5 weeks after first sprouting to even realize it was a pot plant. It was quickly put to death.

Miracle grow or cow shit plus hydroponics. Plants have very different germination times. Plant your corn early and all.

No. There are actually strain-specific organic nutrient plans out there. Five weeks to tell it's a pot plant? You can tell with the second set of leaves.

As far as germination times, 60-80 days, strain dependent.

And actually, Miracle Grow is for soil, not hydro. Hydro has it's own set of nutrients.

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: sonambulo

Originally posted by: SinfulWeeperYou ever grow your own tobacco? Then you can probably say the same. Most people who buy pot to get high buy it from someone else who got it from the growers. To get yield, much like tobacco, you have to use plant growth stuff. Who knows what makes it grow so fast?, I certainly do not.

Back in high school in the science class a friend of mine had put a marijuana seed in with the other plants that were growing all using the same soil. I can assure you, it grew slow. In fact it took the teacher 5 weeks after first sprouting to even realize it was a pot plant. It was quickly put to death.

Miracle grow or cow shit plus hydroponics. Plants have very different germination times. Plant your corn early and all.

No. There are actually strain-specific organic nutrient plans out there. Five weeks to tell it's a pot plant? You can tell with the second set of leaves.

As far as germination times, 60-80 days, strain dependent.

And actually, Miracle Grow is for soil, not hydro. Hydro has it's own set of nutrients.

Can you tell if a strain is hyrdoponically grown if you don't know the grower?

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: sonambulo

Originally posted by: SinfulWeeperYou ever grow your own tobacco? Then you can probably say the same. Most people who buy pot to get high buy it from someone else who got it from the growers. To get yield, much like tobacco, you have to use plant growth stuff. Who knows what makes it grow so fast?, I certainly do not.

Back in high school in the science class a friend of mine had put a marijuana seed in with the other plants that were growing all using the same soil. I can assure you, it grew slow. In fact it took the teacher 5 weeks after first sprouting to even realize it was a pot plant. It was quickly put to death.

Miracle grow or cow shit plus hydroponics. Plants have very different germination times. Plant your corn early and all.

No. There are actually strain-specific organic nutrient plans out there. Five weeks to tell it's a pot plant? You can tell with the second set of leaves.

As far as germination times, 60-80 days, strain dependent.

And actually, Miracle Grow is for soil, not hydro. Hydro has it's own set of nutrients.

Can you tell if a strain is hyrdoponically grown if you don't know the grower?

No. there is no way to tell, unless you have the full plant. Some people claim that hollow stems mean it's hydro, but that is not true. Any stem that is large enough will be hollow. And 'hydroponic' weed can mean several things, either grown truly in an ebb/flow or drip system, or it can mean grown in a soilless medium with hydroponic nutrients.

edit: although if harsh chemical nutrients are used, you can generally tell in the finished product via taste/smell.

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: sonambulo

Originally posted by: SinfulWeeperYou ever grow your own tobacco? Then you can probably say the same. Most people who buy pot to get high buy it from someone else who got it from the growers. To get yield, much like tobacco, you have to use plant growth stuff. Who knows what makes it grow so fast?, I certainly do not.

Back in high school in the science class a friend of mine had put a marijuana seed in with the other plants that were growing all using the same soil. I can assure you, it grew slow. In fact it took the teacher 5 weeks after first sprouting to even realize it was a pot plant. It was quickly put to death.

Miracle grow or cow shit plus hydroponics. Plants have very different germination times. Plant your corn early and all.

No. There are actually strain-specific organic nutrient plans out there. Five weeks to tell it's a pot plant? You can tell with the second set of leaves.

As far as germination times, 60-80 days, strain dependent.

And actually, Miracle Grow is for soil, not hydro. Hydro has it's own set of nutrients.

Can you tell if a strain is hyrdoponically grown if you don't know the grower?

No. there is no way to tell, unless you have the full plant. Some people claim that hollow stems mean it's hydro, but that is not true. Any stem that is large enough will be hollow. And 'hydroponic' weed can mean several things, either grown truly in an ebb/flow or drip system, or it can mean grown in a soilless medium with hydroponic nutrients.

edit: although if harsh chemical nutrients are used, you can generally tell in the finished product via taste/smell.

Most of the weed sold in the clinics is grown indoors in soil, right?

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: sonambulo

Originally posted by: SinfulWeeperYou ever grow your own tobacco? Then you can probably say the same. Most people who buy pot to get high buy it from someone else who got it from the growers. To get yield, much like tobacco, you have to use plant growth stuff. Who knows what makes it grow so fast?, I certainly do not.

Back in high school in the science class a friend of mine had put a marijuana seed in with the other plants that were growing all using the same soil. I can assure you, it grew slow. In fact it took the teacher 5 weeks after first sprouting to even realize it was a pot plant. It was quickly put to death.

Miracle grow or cow shit plus hydroponics. Plants have very different germination times. Plant your corn early and all.

No. There are actually strain-specific organic nutrient plans out there. Five weeks to tell it's a pot plant? You can tell with the second set of leaves.

As far as germination times, 60-80 days, strain dependent.

And actually, Miracle Grow is for soil, not hydro. Hydro has it's own set of nutrients.

Can you tell if a strain is hyrdoponically grown if you don't know the grower?

No. there is no way to tell, unless you have the full plant. Some people claim that hollow stems mean it's hydro, but that is not true. Any stem that is large enough will be hollow. And 'hydroponic' weed can mean several things, either grown truly in an ebb/flow or drip system, or it can mean grown in a soilless medium with hydroponic nutrients.

edit: although if harsh chemical nutrients are used, you can generally tell in the finished product via taste/smell.

Most of the weed sold in the clinics is grown indoors in soil, right?

Generally it's a soilless mixture with hydroponic nutrients. Much easier to control PH and the PpM of all the nutrients. It's also lighter and more consistent quality wise.

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: hscorpio

Originally posted by: SinfulWeeper
Well, I would not say pack a day. More like a quarter ounce a day. How many joints is a quarter ounce? Or how many bowls is it? For the quarter ounce a day people, I know 7 of them. How they get the money to smoke that much is really beyond me.
I smoke 3/4 a pack of cigs a day. Thats only $4 a pack. A quarter around my part of the world is $125.

How old are you and these people? I would be very skeptical of someone claiming to smoke a 1/4 ounce per day. I would be ten times more skeptical if its a teenager. Younger people tend to exaggerate how much weed they smoke in a pathetic attempt to look cool, similar to the way some people try to brag about how much alcohol they drink.

I know at least two people that smoke about 1/4 ounce per day. And one of them is a millionaire businessman. Both of them are productive people running businesses.

As I said, smoking more weed after you're high is a waste of weed. You cannot overdose on it, so smoking too much isn't dangerous, it's simply a waste. The cost of weed doesn't really matter to anyone with a decent job, let alone a millionaire. You can smoke a blunt filled with an ounce, but you'll just fall asleep before it's done.

Btw, regular smokers I know go through an eighth in 3 days to a week. Maybe your friends are smoking mid-to-low quality weed?

I don't think so. Marin is located between Humboldt and SF, you do the math.

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: Canai

Originally posted by: sonambulo

Originally posted by: SinfulWeeperYou ever grow your own tobacco? Then you can probably say the same. Most people who buy pot to get high buy it from someone else who got it from the growers. To get yield, much like tobacco, you have to use plant growth stuff. Who knows what makes it grow so fast?, I certainly do not.

Back in high school in the science class a friend of mine had put a marijuana seed in with the other plants that were growing all using the same soil. I can assure you, it grew slow. In fact it took the teacher 5 weeks after first sprouting to even realize it was a pot plant. It was quickly put to death.

Miracle grow or cow shit plus hydroponics. Plants have very different germination times. Plant your corn early and all.

No. There are actually strain-specific organic nutrient plans out there. Five weeks to tell it's a pot plant? You can tell with the second set of leaves.

As far as germination times, 60-80 days, strain dependent.

And actually, Miracle Grow is for soil, not hydro. Hydro has it's own set of nutrients.

.

 

[Marinski]

yep. Takes anywhere from a few days to a week for it to sprout after planting seed in soil. In michigan, it takes about 6 months outdoors, if you start early. Start in May and harvest in late October. It has to do with the light cycles. For indoor grows you force the plant into flowering by changing the light cycles so it could take less than 6 months depending on how big you want them. Don't ask me how I know this.

 

[deepred98]

Originally posted by: Xyclone
Mmmm, brownies ftw. No smoke. 😛

yeah but making brownies = :thumbsdown:

ice bongs and vaps ftw

 

[Canai]

Originally posted by: deepred98

Originally posted by: Xyclone
Mmmm, brownies ftw. No smoke. 😛

yeah but making brownies = :thumbsdown:

ice bongs and vaps ftw

Try using hot water instead of ice water 😉

 

[Eli]

It probably depends on a few things, like the specific marijuana, the temperature of the flame, etc.

Burning is a complex chemical process. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more than 400.

That fact alone is meaningless unless you know what the substances are.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: SinfulWeeper

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Originally posted by: SinfulWeeper

Originally posted by: marincounty
Here's an interesting article for you:
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Pot Smoking Not Linked to Lung Cancer
Study Shows No Increased Risk for Even the Heaviest Marijuana Smokers
May 23, 2006 -- People who smoke marijuana do not appear to be at increased risk for developing lung cancerlung cancer, new research suggests.

While a clear increase in cancercancer risk was seen among cigarette smokers in the study, no such association was seen for regular cannabis users.

Even very heavy, long-term marijuana users who had smoked more than 22,000 joints over a lifetime seemed to have no greater risk than infrequent marijuana users or nonusers.

The findings surprised the study?s researchers, who expected to see an increase in cancer among people who smoked marijuana regularly in their youth.

?We know that there are as many or more carcinogens and co-carcinogens in marijuana smoke as in cigarettes,? researcher Donald Tashkin, MD, of UCLA?s David Geffen School of Medicine tells WebMD. ?But we did not find any evidence for an increase in cancer risk for even heavy marijuana smoking.? Carcinogens are substances that cause cancer.

Tashkin presented the findings today at The American Thoracic Society?s 102nd International Conference, held in San Diego.Boomers Reaching Cancer Age

The study population was limited to people who were younger than 60 because people older than that would probably not have used marijuana in their teens and early adult years.

?People who may have smoked marijuana in their youth are just now getting to the age when cancers are being seen,? Tashkin says.

A total of 611 lung cancer patients living in Los Angeles County, and 601 patients with other cancers of the head and neck were compared with 1,040 people without cancer matched for age, sex, and the neighborhood they lived in.

All the participants were asked about lifetime use of marijuana, tobacco, and alcohol, as well as other drugs, their diets, occupation, family history of lung cancer, and socioeconomic status.

The heaviest marijuana users in the study had smoked more than 22,000 joints, while moderately heavy smokers had smoked between 11,000 and 22,000 joints.

While two-pack-a-day or more cigarette smokers were found to have a 20-fold increase in lung cancer risk, no elevation in risk was seen for even the very heaviest marijuana smokers.

The more tobacco a person smoked, the greater their risk of developing lung cancer and other cancers of the head and neck. But people who smoked more marijuana were not at increased risk compared with people who smoked less and people who didn?t smoke at all.
Cellular studies and even some studies in animal models suggest that THC has antitumor properties, either by encouraging the death of genetically damaged cells that can become cancerous or by restricting the development of the blood supply that feeds tumors, Tashkin tells WebMD.

In a review of the research published last fall, University of Colorado molecular biologist Robert Melamede, PhD, concluded that the THC in cannabis seems to lessen the tumor-promoting properties of marijuana smoke.

I would almost believe that if someone I knew did not die of lung cancer. He never smoked cigarettes, only marijuana.

Besides, 22000 joints is a pretty small number for these patients having admit it. Odds are they probably can not accurately remember how much they smoked cause their brains were cooked.
A pack of cigarettes a day = 7700 cigaretes per year. Most smokers get cancer/emphizema after 30+ years of smoking unless they are really heavy smokers and also work in a place where second hand smoke is common.
It's common knowledge most heavy pot smokers cant remember what happened 20 minutes ago, you honestly expect them to remember how much pot they smoked in their life? 22000 might have sounded like a big number to them, but I would expect they had at least 6x that amount at minimum.

How many pack-a-day joint smokers do you know? 😕

Well, I would not say pack a day. More like a quarter ounce a day. How many joints is a quarter ounce? Or how many bowls is it? For the quarter ounce a day people, I know 7 of them. How they get the money to smoke that much is really beyond me.
I smoke 3/4 a pack of cigs a day. Thats only $4 a pack. A quarter around my part of the world is $125.

A quarter ounce a day?

:laugh:

That's a bunch of nonsense. You couldn't do that even if you were smoking out of a bong.

If he shares with other people, I could see an eigth a day. Maybe. But not two.

When I was smoking, an eigth would last me 3-4 days.. and I'm no slouch.

Edit: Um, I guess maybe if it was total schwag you could do it.. lol

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Quantity smoked HIGHLY depends on quality. Here in California, dank (very high quality weed) is available at every corner. New smokers will get high off of just one hit, while people who are experienced will need 5-7. The same cannot be said about mids (mid-quality), or shwag (very low THC). An eighth of an ounce of dank will run you between $55-65, while ounces of shwag are available for under $100.

While I can confirm that the above is accurate, this...

I don't know how many joints or bowls a quarter is, since people pack different sizes. Most people I know will roll about 0.2g into a joint, which will get 2-3 experienced (high tolerance) people high. So, that comes out to about 35 joints per quarter. Smoking higher quality marijuana is obviously better for you (you smoke WAY less). After you're as high as can be, smoking more just wastes weed, and explains how some people go through an ounce in less than a week.

...I have to question. 0.2g per joint? 5 joints per gram? Those must be some toothpick-sized pinners. When I used to smoke, I was lucky to get two joints out of a gram, and I was using ordinary sized Zig-Zags.

I mean, 2-3 high-tolerance smokers getting high 5 times on 1 gram. That just doesn't bear out in reality. The way we smoked, a gram was 4 to 5 bowls at best, and 2-3 smokers are gonna toke at least 2 if not 3 bowls per session.

 

[Alistar7]

Who is bogarting, pass it already.....

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: Xyclone

Quantity smoked HIGHLY depends on quality. Here in California, dank (very high quality weed) is available at every corner. New smokers will get high off of just one hit, while people who are experienced will need 5-7. The same cannot be said about mids (mid-quality), or shwag (very low THC). An eighth of an ounce of dank will run you between $55-65, while ounces of shwag are available for under $100.

While I can confirm that the above is accurate, this...

I don't know how many joints or bowls a quarter is, since people pack different sizes. Most people I know will roll about 0.2g into a joint, which will get 2-3 experienced (high tolerance) people high. So, that comes out to about 35 joints per quarter. Smoking higher quality marijuana is obviously better for you (you smoke WAY less). After you're as high as can be, smoking more just wastes weed, and explains how some people go through an ounce in less than a week.

...I have to question. 0.2g per joint? 5 joints per gram? Those must be some toothpick-sized pinners. When I used to smoke, I was lucky to get two joints out of a gram, and I was using ordinary sized Zig-Zags.

I mean, 2-3 high-tolerance smokers getting high 5 times on 1 gram. That just doesn't bear out in reality. The way we smoked, a gram was 4 to 5 bowls at best, and 2-3 smokers are gonna toke at least 2 if not 3 bowls per session.

I guess we didn't have high tolerances, then. Yeah, I make pinner joints. 🙂

If you want to get HIGH, you smoke a bong. Hitting a joint is like drinking a beer, while hitting a bong is akin to taking shots. 🙂

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: deepred98

Originally posted by: Xyclone
Mmmm, brownies ftw. No smoke. 😛

yeah but making brownies = :thumbsdown:

ice bongs and vaps ftw

Cali clinics ftw. 🙂 I haven't tried vaping before, btw. How is the high? I heard it's different?