Need 2560x1600 on 30in monitor and...

[Mr_Myke]

...would like your advice, please.

I came into some "free money" (and the desktop space) to get a 30-in LG monitor. Of course, want to use the 2560.1600 native res for gaming. Yes, I would even like to run Crysis at that rate.

I see reviews getting almost 40 fps in Crysis at that level with the new 5970. I could even afford that, but (1) I know bleeding edge vid cards are a bad buy, and (2) you can't even find it for sale at the moment.

So, I ask you: What else would you all suggest for options. Naturally, I'm fully open to combo of other cards, in sli or crossfire, to achieve the desired results.

Up til now, even if I had the money, I was avoiding 30-in display because it took more vid card than seemed reasonable in order to consistently produce the 2560.1600 with full candy settings. Now it is seeming do-able to me. But I need that advice...

P.S. I know this isn't the right forum, but if anybody is interested, I would value input on CPU/MB combos for this build.

Thanks!!:biggrin:

 

[happy medium]

This is supposed to be theeee monitor to get if your looking for a 30 inch.
It will scale perfectly to 1920x1080 with nice image quality. Same you some BIG bucks on video cards.

Read this thread....

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=93642

Why not just crossfire 2 5770's if you can't find what you want?

 

[dguy6789]

I'd suggest getting the 5970. It will probably be easier to get a hold of than a 5870 simply because the price premium of it will mean far less people will even try to buy it. Just stay on the lookout for a 5970 in stock and get one of those.

High end cards are usually a bad buy, but it doesn't look like it is at this point in time. In fact, people who got a hold of a 5870 for $379 on launch probably got an insanely good deal. There won't be any competition from Nvidia for several months still, so your purchase won't depreciate in value much if at all. There will be no price drops at least until Nvidia's next gen cards launch. At this point in time, if you got a hold of a 5870 or 5970, you could sell it used for more money than you paid for it.

 

[uclaLabrat]

I'm running a 30" samsung on a 4870X2, and it plays fine. Granted, I only play COD4, WAW, and BF2, but it's pegged at about 70-90 FPS for all the above at least. I think a 5970 would be your best bet. If I can save the cash, I'll probbly upgrade to a DX11 sometime next fall, esepcially if BF:BC2 is going to be DX11.

 

[v8envy]

i7 920 on a decent (but not enthusiast) x58 board with at least 3 full size PCIe slots and 12 RAM slots. At least one of: 5850, 5870, 5970. If it's still slow get another.

Stick a bunch of RAM and a SSD and you've got as good as gaming gets.

OTOH, if this really is free money (and not just a Google bonus or something), just get a disposable 295 for now and upgrade to the 5 series or Fermi when you can.

 

[Friendo]

del

 

[x3sphere]

I had a 5870 and it wasn't enough for some games at 2560x1600 - STALKER Clear Sky and Crysis specifically. Just ordered a 5970 yesterday. I'd say get one. It doesn't look like games will getting much more demanding anytime soon - and DX11 actually runs better DX10 - so I think the 5970 will last a good while even at this res.

 

[Gutcheck2009]

This is supposed to be theeee monitor to get if your looking for a 30 inch.
It will scale perfectly to 1920x1080 with nice image quality. Same you some BIG bucks on video cards.

Read this thread....

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=93642

Why not just crossfire 2 5770's if you can't find what you want?

that monitor is horrible. I had it for a couple months and sold it. The power bricks are known to fail and the lag is the worst I have ever seen. Also the scaling is no substitute for native res. I have 3 5850s on a dell 3007wfp hc and I play crysis T 90 fps.

 

[happy medium]

that monitor is horrible. I had it for a couple months and sold it. The power bricks are known to fail and the lag is the worst I have ever seen. Also the scaling is no substitute for native res. I have 3 5850s on a dell 3007wfp hc and I play crysis T 90 fps.

Wow, I thought everyone was praising it!
Thanks.

i see that was an old thread sorry

 

[Grooveriding]

Using 5870 CF everything runs maxxed out on a 30" for me, the only two games that do not sit at 60fps are Crysis and Stalker... but they are playable..

Crysis is playable with everything on very high/enthusiast with 2xaa and the Stalker games are playable with everything turned up but no aa...aa is killer in stalker.

Other than that, everything else can be turned up all the way.

It's a nice setup, I got the 5870s when they first came out, if the 5970 was around, I would of gotten it, it's just a little bit slower than 5870cf.

 

[Mr_Myke]

Wow, what a community.

Thanks to everyone for these responses.

Naturally, now that I have the ability to finally pull the trigger on a setup like this, it seems I am gonna have to force myself to be patient.

Looks like the 5970 is the way to go...the CR 5870 is a close call, but the future upside of the 5970 (just add another when needed) seems to be the clincher. Sooo...dammit, that means I have to wait.

I'm watching several sites for inventory updates...not too much in sight, but I am hoping. Ebay looks like the going rate is a 35% premium...they are going for about $850 each there. That is too much to swallow. THe
"disposable" 295 idea is tempting, but I think I will try and hold out.

Funny, I saw a dude post 10 days ago on the "off topic/social" forum that he would pay anyone $10 via paypal if they could tell him where to find one in stock...after taking some abuse, looks like he got someone to sell him one. Dunno if I am that desperate, but I think I am close :sneaky:

Ideas are welcomed...as are additional responses to the original question, of course...great exchange of info on the Gateway monitor by the way. I looked at the Dell, and almost decided to pay the extra $400 to get it (mainly for the HDMI hookup) but am back to the LG. Is that foolish?

Thanks again all.

 

[Gutcheck2009]

No, the dell 3008 also sucks. If you want I can find you some reviews. The LG is good (the 3007 is better).

 

[x3sphere]

No, the dell 3008 also sucks. If you want I can find you some reviews. The LG is good (the 3007 is better).

Have you actually used it? I owned both at the same time as I had a dead pixel on my 3007WFP-HC and Dell sent me a 3008WFP to replace it. Side by side, I actually prefered the 3008. Colors were better. I have heard that the 3008 has a subpar response time due to the built-in scalar but did not notice a perceptible difference between the two, at least in gaming situations.

If you don't need the extra inputs, though, the 3008 probably isn't worth the extra money. I know the 3007 can be had for much cheaper - around $800 refurbished.

 

[dank69]

...

Naturally, now that I have the ability to finally pull the trigger on a setup like this, it seems I am gonna have to force myself to be patient.

Looks like the 5970 is the way to go...the CR 5870 is a close call, but the future upside of the 5970 (just add another when needed) seems to be the clincher. Sooo...dammit, that means I have to wait.

...

Or, if money is really no object, and patience is running out, you could go EVGA 4xSLI with 2x5870 and add 1 or 2 more as needed. 4x5870 would most likely beat 2x5970 anyway.

 

[Gutcheck2009]

Have you actually used it? I owned both at the same time as I had a dead pixel on my 3007WFP-HC and Dell sent me a 3008WFP to replace it. Side by side, I actually prefered the 3008. Colors were better. I have heard that the 3008 has a subpar response time due to the built-in scalar but did not notice a perceptible difference between the two, at least in gaming situations.

If you don't need the extra inputs, though, the 3008 probably isn't worth the extra money. I know the 3007 can be had for much cheaper - around $800 refurbished.

No, to be honest I have not. I did have a Gateway in the house but read (way too many) reviews after being disapointed by the Gateway and made the decision to buy a 3007. For all I know the 3008 is better now, but the reviews basically complained about the input lag and the price.

 

[v8envy]

Except that no video hardware supports more than 3 cards in SLI or crossfire to my knowledge -- there aren't enough connectors to bridge more cards than that. The EVGA board is for people running massive quantities of GPUs for folding, not gaming.

Valid configurations are two double-GPU cards (quad SLI or crossfire), or 3 single GPU cards, or a combo of one dual and one single GPU card (for ATI, not sure that's possible with a 295+270). Single cards have 3 sli or cf connections, dual cards have 2.

Start with a single 5870. Based on experience you should have a good idea of whether you need another, two more, or a 5890.

Just be sure to get a high quality, high wattage PSU out of the gate.

 

[lavaheadache]

doh, i just "sleep ordered" a dell 3007wfp-hc last night. 12xx out the door. I'll let you know how it turns out. Estimated delivery is 12/09/09. I was hoping for a little quicker turn around time, oh well. now i gotta figure out what to do with this 2407wfp and 3x2005fpw's

 

[Grooveriding]

doh, i just "sleep ordered" a dell 3007wfp-hc last night. 12xx out the door. I'll let you know how it turns out. Estimated delivery is 12/09/09. I was hoping for a little quicker turn around time, oh well. now i gotta figure out what to do with this 2407wfp and 3x2005fpw's

It's a great monitor, mine arrived with 0 dead pixels and I believe within the first 30days Dell will exchange the unit for a brand new one if you get one that does have even 1 dead pixel.

I'm really impressed with the picture, it's a step up from my 24" (the old LG L246WP, with the PMVA panel) which has a nice picture as well. The one weakness I would give comparing the LG to the Dell is that on the Dell you can more easily notice the shine of the backlight coming through.

Not that it's backlight bleed per say, it's uniform across the screen, but you can notice the light more.

Still an amazing panel imo.

 

[dank69]

Except that no video hardware supports more than 3 cards in SLI or crossfire to my knowledge -- there aren't enough connectors to bridge more cards than that. The EVGA board is for people running massive quantities of GPUs for folding, not gaming.

Valid configurations are two double-GPU cards (quad SLI or crossfire), or 3 single GPU cards, or a combo of one dual and one single GPU card (for ATI, not sure that's possible with a 295+270). Single cards have 3 sli or cf connections, dual cards have 2...

You mean like this?

 

[lavaheadache]

You mean like this?

looks intense, i see air flow being a problem as well as microstuttering. The more Gpu's synced up the more stuttering. Microstuttering really only becomes a problem when the frames get in the 40-50 fps range though which i image wouldn't happen very often with that setup

 

[Mr_Myke]

How about that? Just been checking the Newegg listings about every half hour or so for last few days, and lo and behold, 5 mins ago saw this was in stock.

They accepted payment, so it looks for real...but we'll see.

Price was $629.99...still going for over $800 on ebay. But I didn't buy two; the bottom might drop out of that market in the next few days if these things are gonna start coming available. Just happy if I get one:biggrin:

By the way, Lavaheadache, I would be curious to know your thoughts on going from your 3 monitor (or 4!) setup to the 30-in single monitor. I always thought I would prefer the 3-panels if I could get the desktop space for it...what made you decide to "reduce" size to the 30-in??

 

[Mr_Myke]

Okay, I'm an idiot. So much for supplies catching up to demand.

Just tried to load another Asus 5970 into the cart at Newegg and got the "removed from your cart" message.

They sent a confirmation email on my original order, so I still have some confidence in that one.

I may have just been lucky enough to have hit the correct 15-minute window. Unbelievable. Gonna now wait and see if some Asus models show up on Ebay all of the sudden.

 

[v8envy]

Excellent call on the 5890. Considering the $430 being a "hot deal" on a 5870 (many are approaching the $500 mark) the $200 extra for nearly double the firepower is cheap insurance to drive a 30". I think AMD will be surprised how well the 5890 is selling.

If you wind up needing another you'll have full use of 16x PCIe lanes on a X58 chipset board.

 

[lavaheadache]

How about that? Just been checking the Newegg listings about every half hour or so for last few days, and lo and behold, 5 mins ago saw this was in stock.

They accepted payment, so it looks for real...but we'll see.

Price was $629.99...still going for over $800 on ebay. But I didn't buy two; the bottom might drop out of that market in the next few days if these things are gonna start coming available. Just happy if I get one:biggrin:

By the way, Lavaheadache, I would be curious to know your thoughts on going from your 3 monitor (or 4!) setup to the 30-in single monitor. I always thought I would prefer the 3-panels if I could get the desktop space for it...what made you decide to "reduce" size to the 30-in??

Mainly because I'm running crossfire now and it only supports 2 monitors. Triple widescreen gaming is the shit though. I was using SoftTh for the past year and loved it. I wanna try out a 2560 panel now. It's not like I can't go back to my 4 monitor setup though. I like having a "spare" screen when I'm gaming to do other stuff on like monitor temps and misc other things. I may run the 2407 in portrait mode next to the 30 but I also might run 2 of the 2005fpw's for a symetrical feel. Softth would be awesome with a 3007wfp and 2x 2005fpw's in portrait