(NECRO) CA residents, are you annoyed with the ”no grocery bags” policy yet?

[SSSnail]

Well, I am. It's super retarded and whoever thought of it should never have kids.

If you're unsure of what I'm talking about, the libruls in CA, in all their infinite wisdom, made markets charge you for the bags to put your groceries in (or anything you buy at a store for that matters). Citing environmental issues, they want people to use reusable bags.

The problem is, the reuseable bags aren't that environmental friendly, and it's a nuisance because let's face it, who has a bag on their person, at all time? And really, how many times can you reuse that bag before it's contaminated or destroyed? So this ends up as another failed libruls idea.

Go to any stores to buy anything - ”do you want a bag with those items? That's extra.”

Effin libruls...

 

[JulesMaximus]

Who gives a fuck?

We just keep several sacks in the trunk of my wife's car.

 

[Doppel]

This kind of thing is pissing on a bonfire, just completely missing the forest. If a person wants to do it themselves fine, but I agree it's a huge hassle to carry around those bags, plus I always find a use for grocery bags anyway; those that end in the trash replace bags I'd otherwise have to buy.

It's kind of like those pretentious wankers who will buy a ridiculously large house, along with all the climate control necessary to keep it cold or hot, and yet fondle themselves over how great it is they used renewable bamboo for their kitchen cabinets.

 

[who?]

If you don't wash the reusable bags and keep them in the trunk they'll grow bacteria. Wash them or at least spray them with disinfectant.

 

[Ruptga]

I go to Aldi all the time and that has always been their policy, everywhere. I don't care.

 

[SSSnail]

Who gives a fuck?

We just keep several sacks in the trunk of my wife's car.

Problem is, I too do have a few of those reusable sacks in the trunk of the car, but I'm not always with my car. Go to CVS, buy a few items for work (candies, etc...) Juggle all the sirs back... Or pay 10 cents for a small paper bag. Out of principe, it's a no.

 

[Ruptga]

Oh noes, ten cents! I will have to work an extra 49 seconds at minimum wage!

 

[Baked]

We've been using reusable canvas bags for the past couple of years already. No biggie. Half of the time, I don't even need bags. For Costco, I just use the boxes anyway.

 

[lxskllr]

I go to Aldi all the time and that has always been their policy, everywhere. I don't care.

They let you have boxes which I find much more useful than bags. At regular stores, I usually put the stuff back in the cart loose. Crappy plasttic bags dump the stuff on the floor anyway, so I might as well just put them there, and deal with it at home.

 

[AreaCode707]

I don't generally buy a ton of stuff at a time. If I'm juggling three handfuls of little things I grab a produce bag. If I've got more stuff than I can reasonably carry I ask for a leftover wine box. So far they've been pretty happy to comply. On occasion I buy a bag or two if I'm not willing to make an extra trip back and forth to the car but I try not to, in general.

I find it vaguely annoying but not enough that I really care.

 

[SSSnail]

Oh noes, ten cents! I will have to work an extra 49 seconds at minimum wage!

That's not the point you nincomshit.

They billed it as environmental, but the stores still have plastic bags to sell to you. The reusable bags themselves aren't washable, most of them are compostable.

I'm sure someone that's as rich as you don't mind the 10cents, but I give a shit, because I hate being nickle and dime to death, along with every fucking other fees and taxes special contributions and other shits I have to pay, living in San Francisco.

Perhaps one of these days I'll move out to where you are and experience the big life.

 

[flexy]

I go to Aldi all the time and that has always been their policy, everywhere. I don't care.

Because we in Europe pay for our plastic bags for ages already. But then you guys are better with brown paper bags, which we don't have here really.

We always have a pile of "used" plastic bags which we use for all kinds of things and I usually grab a bunch and bring 'em with me when I grocery shop. (Alternatively, I have my backpack).

Why is this an "effing librul thing"? Why manufacture and effing waste TONS of plastic just to throw them away 20 mins later, why not re-use the bags a few times? Even the extremely thin ones last many times.

 

[SSSnail]

Because we in Europe pay for our plastic bags for ages already. But then you guys are better with brown paper bags, which we don't have here really.

We always have a pile of "used" plastic bags which we use for all kinds of things and I usually grab a bunch and bring 'em with me when I grocery shop. (Alternatively, I have my backpack).

Why is this an "effing librul thing"? Why manufacture and effing waste TONS of plastic just to throw them away 20 mins later, why not re-use the bags a few times? Even the extremely thin ones last many times.

Because that's what they billed it as - "for the environment". You can still buy plastic bags at the counter, or not, but most people end up buying plastic bags anyways.

The reusable bags aren't exactly environmental friendly.

Most plastic bags get reused as trash bags, or some other form of container, or RECYCLED!!!!

If ever an initiative gets passed here in CA and makes no sense, you can bet it's the work of a librul.

 

[crab]

Wonder if I as a high functioning quadriplegic would be charged? I need a bag with handles to carry anything I buy...even at fast food drive throughs I ask that my order be dropped in a salad bag or something I can hook my thumb or wrist into. I cant grasp say a paper sack even.

 

[Imported]

I've had to deal with it for over a year now in San Jose.. Can't stand the damn ordinance. Going to a city over where they provide bags is a fucking god send and I'll sometimes deliberately shop in a city that doesn't have this stupid ordinance.

I do have like 10 reusable bags in the car, but still.. what a pain in the ass.

 

[xSkyDrAx]

Because we in Europe pay for our plastic bags for ages already. But then you guys are better with brown paper bags, which we don't have here really.

We always have a pile of "used" plastic bags which we use for all kinds of things and I usually grab a bunch and bring 'em with me when I grocery shop. (Alternatively, I have my backpack).

Why is this an "effing librul thing"? Why manufacture and effing waste TONS of plastic just to throw them away 20 mins later, why not re-use the bags a few times? Even the extremely thin ones last many times.

Throw them away? I don't know about you guys but most people I know will use those bags for their smaller trash bins which is why I horde those things over time because it's just useful. Great too since Cali is slowly making you pay for them.

 

[Imported]

Oh and its ridiculous going to a mall and seeing people walk around with piles of clothes in their arms.

 

[yllus]

We've had a 5 cents per plastic bag rule here in Toronto for a couple of years, and at first I was incensed at the rule. Now that some time has passed, I have to admit it's a pretty good rule - I and most people I see take a reusable bag with us to the supermarket as the cost is just enough to make you remember to do so without being too painful to pay when you're in a jam.

When it comes down to it, some behaviour modification is only possible through incentives/disincentives. Making something cost more is a powerful incentive for ruse.

 

[waggy]

yeah it had a bad effect too..

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-04/the-disgusting-consequences-of-liberal-plastic-bag-bans.html

Most alarmingly, the industry has highlighted news reports linking reusable shopping bags to the spread of disease. Like this one, from the Los Angeles Times last May: “A reusable grocery bag left in a hotel bathroom caused an outbreak of norovirus-induced diarrhea and nausea that struck nine of 13 members of a girls’ soccer team in October, Oregon researchers reported Wednesday.” The norovirus may not have political clout, but evidently it, too, is rooting against plastic bags.

 

[Dirigible]

I'm not annoyed at all. The new system works well.

 

[dingster1]

In Md,(and D.C too I believe) we have the same tax. 5c/bag. Everybody brings their own bags. Most places sell the reusable ones for 99c. We've gotten used to it after a year...

 

[clamum]

Dude move outta that fucking fail ass state.

 

[masteryoda34]

I just pay the 10 cents a bag and don't worry about it. When I do the math for myself, I figure that it comes out to a one tenth of one percent price increase for my typical shopping trip. This is not a significant enough cost to warrant caring.

 

[BUTCH1]

No laws yet in FL, save-a-lot charges you $.4/bag and you bag your own items on a large table-top after you pay for them. I didn't really mind as they had chicken breast for $.99/lb, great for the grill at that price. Might be an issue in the warmer parts as trunk temps get hot fast so one would have to spray 'em out with a little lysol after you unload at home. Really, if they wanted to make a dent in landfill space go after bottled water, the stupidest thing to catch on, when I see people buying cases of it at a time I just LOL..

 

[ussfletcher]

"The bag is not the environmental bogey-person that everybody thinks it is," he says. "If you look at the entire grocery package that you bought, the bag may account for 1 to 2 percent of the environmental impact.
"The other packaging may account for 7 percent. Ninety percent is accounted for by the products you buy. That's where all the environmental impact is."

Even worse, you’d have to use an eco-friendly cotton shopping bag 171 times before it could even counteract the negative environmental impact from its production. Only after that many uses is your reusable tote truly the greener approach to shopping. Since the average consumer only uses canvas bags 51 times before retiring them, those stylish totes we see in grocery stores everywhere are probably doing more harm than good.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111672574

http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/03/02/study-plastic-grocery-bags-better-than-canvas/



Its really stupid, as are most of the products we 'recycle'.