NEC3500 A - any reason not to buy one?

Wigwam

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annecdotally i have got the impression that it can be abit finickity, especially with the Nforce2 chipset so want to know of user opinions first....

if not this what else is imminent or out to get instead?
 

sniperruff

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if you need a dvd burner, then buy it. if not, save the $80, wait, then buy a 48x dvd burner for the same price when you need it

i know i know. im kidding about the second part...
 

meladan

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I second what Taejin says. I have one too and it burns everything, perfectly!
 

IamTHEsnake

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Originally posted by: sniperruff
if you need a dvd burner, then buy it. if not, save the $80, wait, then buy a 48x dvd burner for the same price when you need it

i know i know. im kidding about the second part...



You think 48x is possible? I mean if cd-drives top out at 52x it's already amazing that dvd burners are burning at 16x. I say this because for each " x" a dvd-rw drive burns more info than a cd-rw drive so infact an 8x drive is something like 64x or so. Or am I viewing this whole thing from the wrong angle?
 

Thermalrock

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i got one and its the best dvd/cd drive theere is in my book. ive rarely been so happy with something i bought as i am with this thing.
 

Spamdini

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i know this sounds stupid but i had a problem in the past where i wasnt able to boot from cd on a dvd burner...was that a problem with the drive or soemthing else....if u dont know just test it out with the ones u have and let me know plz

ty in advance
 

chilled

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Originally posted by: IamTHEsnake
Originally posted by: sniperruff
if you need a dvd burner, then buy it. if not, save the $80, wait, then buy a 48x dvd burner for the same price when you need it

i know i know. im kidding about the second part...



You think 48x is possible? I mean if cd-drives top out at 52x it's already amazing that dvd burners are burning at 16x. I say this because for each " x" a dvd-rw drive burns more info than a cd-rw drive so infact an 8x drive is something like 64x or so. Or am I viewing this whole thing from the wrong angle?

No the angle is right. I don't expect DVD drives to go beyond 16x. The dual layer speeds should increase a bit though from today's 4x.
 

Mem

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Fall 2004 DVDR Roundup

Don`t read too much into that review,I happen to own a Lite-On 1633 drive and it`s very quiet,PO/PI errors have been low for me and I`ve had no bad burns(awesome drive IMHO),also the firmware used it Anand`s roundup for the Lite-On drive is older then the one I`m using.


However buy what you want ;).
 

Spamdini

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Originally posted by: Spamdini
i know this sounds stupid but i had a problem in the past where i wasnt able to boot from cd on a dvd burner...was that a problem with the drive or soemthing else....if u dont know just test it out with the ones u have and let me know plz

ty in advance



so?
 

AnonymouseUser

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Originally posted by: Mem
Fall 2004 DVDR Roundup

Don`t read too much into that review,I happen to own a Lite-On 1633 drive and it`s very quiet,PO/PI errors have been low for me and I`ve had no bad burns(awesome drive IMHO),also the firmware used it Anand`s roundup for the Lite-On drive is older then the one I`m using.


However buy what you want ;).

I personally own 2 Lite On CD-Writers and love them both. That roundup basically turned me off of the Lite On drive, so I am disappointed in their results if the newer firmware would have had it vying for top honors.
 

Zepper

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NEC is poor on support as they don't sell retail. Since the Pioneer (and the new Asus) is basically the same drive, I'd go with one of them - if you can't wait for the new Plextor PX-716A...
.bh.

The :sun:, the :sun: !
 

jspeicher

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i know this is asked a lot, but what software out there do you guys recommend to backup dvds?

I too am picking up a NEC this weekend.
 

WobbleWobble

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I'm in a similar situation. I can't decide between the NEC 3500A and the Pioneer DVR-108!

NEC has faster read/write speeds by a little bit, but the Pioneer to me seems to have better writing quality.
 

tranceport

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Originally posted by: chilled
Originally posted by: IamTHEsnake
Originally posted by: sniperruff
if you need a dvd burner, then buy it. if not, save the $80, wait, then buy a 48x dvd burner for the same price when you need it

i know i know. im kidding about the second part...



You think 48x is possible? I mean if cd-drives top out at 52x it's already amazing that dvd burners are burning at 16x. I say this because for each " x" a dvd-rw drive burns more info than a cd-rw drive so infact an 8x drive is something like 64x or so. Or am I viewing this whole thing from the wrong angle?

No the angle is right. I don't expect DVD drives to go beyond 16x. The dual layer speeds should increase a bit though from today's 4x.



Sorry but you are both wrong. Look for DVD writing to reach 52X soon.

in cd writing an X is 150 KB per second.
in dvd writing an X is 1500 KB per second.

The speeds at which the disc has to spin are similar to their cd counter parts.
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: chilled
Originally posted by: IamTHEsnake
You think 48x is possible? I mean if cd-drives top out at 52x it's already amazing that dvd burners are burning at 16x. I say this because for each " x" a dvd-rw drive burns more info than a cd-rw drive so infact an 8x drive is something like 64x or so. Or am I viewing this whole thing from the wrong angle?
No the angle is right. I don't expect DVD drives to go beyond 16x. The dual layer speeds should increase a bit though from today's 4x.

Basically, but it's not quite that straightforward. The 'X' speeds for CD and DVD are different, but they represent the data-rate only. The real limitation is the physical rotational-velocity of the 12cm polycarbonate disc, everything else is up to the read/write electronics in terms of what level of data-density can be achieved with that spinning disc.

A comparisons of the formats available here
 

chilled

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Originally posted by: tranceport
Originally posted by: chilled
Originally posted by: IamTHEsnake
Originally posted by: sniperruff
if you need a dvd burner, then buy it. if not, save the $80, wait, then buy a 48x dvd burner for the same price when you need it

i know i know. im kidding about the second part...



You think 48x is possible? I mean if cd-drives top out at 52x it's already amazing that dvd burners are burning at 16x. I say this because for each " x" a dvd-rw drive burns more info than a cd-rw drive so infact an 8x drive is something like 64x or so. Or am I viewing this whole thing from the wrong angle?

No the angle is right. I don't expect DVD drives to go beyond 16x. The dual layer speeds should increase a bit though from today's 4x.



Sorry but you are both wrong. Look for DVD writing to reach 52X soon.

in cd writing an X is 150 KB per second.
in dvd writing an X is 1500 KB per second.

The speeds at which the disc has to spin are similar to their cd counter parts.

I agree with your definition of a CD 1x and DVD 1x, but not with your statement that DVD will hit 52X! Then tell me why DVD-ROM's have not increased in speed beyond 16x for the last 4 years?????

Physical limittations of the DVD edia prevent it from being read/written to at more than 16x, just like 52x for CDs.

 

obeseotron

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X's are relative terms, having no value in comparing different formats. 1X references the base speed required for the medium's original purpose, ie CD-Audio or DVD-Video. 1X DVD drives spin faster and transfer significantly more data than 1X CD drives. The limits around 16X for DVD's and 52X for CD's are to do with rotational stress on the plastic that makes up the discs themselves. Spinning the discs any faster would result in occasional disc shatterings, which would not be in anyone's interest. Since billions of discs are already in circulation this is not something that can be fixed. The electronics will work themselves out and I'd imagine 16X dual layer writing should eventually be possible, but there will never be anything beyond 16X, at least not anything with one laser.

NEC is the best on the market, I have it's predecessor and think it's great.
 

NeezyDeezy

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Hi, do I have any reason to think this drive (NEC 3500 A) won't work perfect with my system, which is a little bit old:

Pentium 4 1.4
256 ram
windows 2000 pro

Just making sure before I pick it up. Thanks!