Nearly half of guns in crimes from 10 red states with lax gun laws

[OutHouse]

Please stop insulting uneducated monkeys.

Thanks.

ok how about Donkey's?

 

[Zargon]

blah blah blah.

that website SUCKS dude. its full of ignorance.

EVERY STATE allows inspections of gun dealers. Its part of the fine print of having an FFL. Its the ATF's job, NOT the states job anyways. You agree to random zero notice inspections when you apply for a FFL.

also IL doesn't exactly 'require a purchase permit for all handgun sales' as much as to own ANY gun in IL, you have to have a Firearm Owners ID card. They expire now every 10 years and you have to renew(went up from 5 a few years ago).

thats the ones I know off the top of my head w/o doing any real research to argue with.

no to mention, 'allows local communites to make their own gun laws' is retarded. you should be letting local communities or states for that matter regulate gun ownership, which should be controlled by the FED, as its a constitutional issue

 

[PeshakJang]

Sure you did ... you put more effort into finding out about a not too often referenced AT poster than you do your posts. Believable ... :sneaky:

And you seem to put a lot of effort into your own paranoia of me... who has issues again?

 

[Anarchist420]

There have been countless studies done to prove that gun control laws are counter-effective and that the criminals like them.

 

[Pens1566]

And you seem to put a lot of effort into your own paranoia of me... who has issues again?

Lol, no effort at all. Just struck me as way too obvious of a slip on your part. Troll on whoever you are/were/used to be !!1!!1!!

 

[MotF Bane]

Epic fail thread!

 

[piasabird]

If it was easier to buy a gun in Detroit, the local economy would be better. All strict gun laws do is increase the economies of locations where there are less strict laws. It is a right to own a gun not a privlige! It is time to challenge all gun laws.

 

[bfdd]

ROFL this shit is so stupid. It's a chart that shows which states export the most guns. What the fuck does exporting guns have to do with gun violence? The only reason you relate them is because they have the word "gun" in them. How come these places which are exporting so many guns, don't have the crime levels of some of the places that are importing all the guns from there? You don't think they keep any for themselves? Not to mention, these guns actually have to get into the hands of PEOPLE who commit CRIMES. Rofl, what a piece of shit website. Craig you're a funny joke lol.

 

[PokerGuy]

Thread backfire fail......

 

[Cutterhead]

Here's a map for you Craig:

http://www.topix.com/issue/gun-control

 

[Fern]

I'm wondering if the states that have the highest exports rates is more a function of prices. I.e., lower cost-of-living states have cheaper gun prices.

Fern

 

[Zargon]

eh gun prices are pretty stable as far as I know.

 

[extra]

LOL! Both of the things you listed are federal crimes and don't involve state laws.

God help me, a thread where I agree with spidey. Site is complete spin.

 

[Darwin333]

Interesting, well-done web map here:

http://tracetheguns.org/

The lack of any of the ten listed laws that help reduce guns used in crime in many of these states is pretty terrible.

Lie on the application to get a gun? Buy someone a gun who isn't allowed to have one? No problem.

You really want the State, which is currently ran by the elite and is all but "fair" to the common person, to have sole discreation over who can legally carry a concealed weapon? Why is that even on the "good law" list? I am pretty sure people with CCPs statistically NEVER commit gun crimes.

In other words, THEY ARE THE GOOD GUYS!!!

Why should I need some local assholes permission to exercise a right? Didn't we go through that bullshit already with segregation? How likely do you think a minority is to going to get "authorized" by the local police for a CCP in some parts of this country? The very act of obtaining a CCP alone in most states shows you have the desire (due to the time, effort, training and cost involved) to own and carry weapons in a legal and safe fashion. Don't take my word on it though, take a look at their track record.

 

[MrColin]

how did i miss your thread???

does your bro still wear a kilt?

Not only that but he shaves the top of his head and grows the rest long, its really freaky looking.

 

[lothar]

ROFL this shit is so stupid. It's a chart that shows which states export the most guns. What the fuck does exporting guns have to do with gun violence? The only reason you relate them is because they have the word "gun" in them. How come these places which are exporting so many guns, don't have the crime levels of some of the places that are importing all the guns from there? You don't think they keep any for themselves? Not to mention, these guns actually have to get into the hands of PEOPLE who commit CRIMES. Rofl, what a piece of shit website. Craig you're a funny joke lol.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/oct/05/us-homicide-rates

New Hampshire and North Dakota has one of the most lax rules on gun ownership regulation(based on Craig234's link), but yet their murder rate per 100,000 is lower than all states.
How do they manage to accomplish this?

New Hampshire only had TWO murders by firearms in 2008. How???

 

[Howard]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/oct/05/us-homicide-rates

New Hampshire and North Dakota has one of the most lax rules on gun ownership regulation(based on Craig234's link), but yet their murder rate per 100,000 is lower than all states.
How do they manage to accomplish this?

New Hampshire only had TWO murders by firearms in 2008. How???

Can I be racist here?

 

[OCGuy]

Go away gun grabber. You are in the wrong country if you want to take away personal firearms.

In fact, I'm going to go clean by babies right now......

 

[MikeMike]

Can I be racist here?

it's not racist if its the truth.

 

[Double Trouble]

Looking at gun exports is curious. Why would you not look at the crime rates in the states with the lax gun laws themselves? If the lax laws were causing guns to get into the wrong hands, wouldn't you see the effect of that in the states with the lax laws? Seems like a logical failure.

 

[lothar]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/oct/05/us-homicide-rates

New Hampshire and North Dakota has one of the most lax rules on gun ownership regulation(based on Craig234's link), but yet their murder rate per 100,000 is lower than all states.
How do they manage to accomplish this?

New Hampshire only had TWO murders by firearms in 2008. How???

I know I didn't quote you originally Craig234, but I was expecting an explanation to my question specifically from you(or anyone else who supports your conclusion).
Interesting that the "progressive" bastion of America, Vermont has one of the most lax gun laws in the states.

 

[xj0hnx]

Seems like a logical failure.

Well, it is a Craig234 thread.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Can I be racist here?

please elaborate.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

please elaborate.

New Hampshire is like 98% white.

 

[piasabird]

They missed one law that they have in Illinois!!!

Must submit your fingerprints and go through a background check and provide a Picture of yoursef for the Photo ID.

I think guns were easier to obtain under Hitler.