NDAA equals a faith based government

[NoStateofMind]

IDK why people are so passive about such an egregious bill.
This legislation basically makes it legal for any administration to lock you up
for nothing at all without trial or representation. Oh but that won't happen you say. Well I want to know how you know that? It's not like they will drop by in broad daylight while you are sitting at home with the kids and just take you. No. You will come up "missing". There is no reason they would want public attention for snatching your ass and then have to explain to the media why they apprehended you. nope. What will happen though is your happy ass will be heading to the store late one night and you will be grabbed thrown in a van and hauled off to an undisclosed site. Won't happen eh? That suggests you have faith in government to do the right thing. Might as well call government your religion and taxes are your tithes.

This election year I encourage you to NOT have faith in government. Do not
vote. Do not become a "yes man" for government control. You have to see by now that whomever you vote for will not serve your interests. It's time we put an emphasis on honesty and integrity instead of wall street's bought and paid for man, the president.

I don't know about you but there comes a time in life when you have to look at the big picture. The war on drugs is a never ending war created to steal your rights. Just as the war on terror is also never to end. It too steals your rights and privacy. This is all control over your feeble little mind. Granted when 9/11 came I was angry too. But not angry enough to subvert the rights of every American.

Where does it end? It doesn't until we get fed up with the bread and circuses. Nothing changes until you personally feel the pain. Have we become so selfish in our own desires that we don't care about the brown people being serenaded with bombs from your tax dollars while we sleep comfortably
in our own heated/cooled rooms? Does it not bother you that your government is killing civilians no matter the number for whatever reason? It does me. There is guilt knowing that my earned wages
are being taxed to fund such things. Therefore implicating you and me in the murder.

I honestly don't expect a lot of support on this but I do expect you to question yourselves and see if the man paying the taxes matches the government killing and apprehending those who have no right to trial by their peers.

May you come to peace with your decision.

 

[Anarchist420]

You have support from me. The worst is yet to come to me and I need to get out of the system or I need to die within the next month. Either one and I'll be satisfied.

I don't want to see the worst of what used to be known as "science fiction" where humans get turned into robots or where they shoot thunder out of their anus or where the majority becomes one body. If the Nazis could combined twins, then Romney's agents will be able to combine 20 people or more and cause them to act statist.

 

[monovillage]

http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/ndaa

Yeah, I oppose it.
Thanks Obama.

 

[bfdd]

Non religious raised in a culture that puts high value on faith... this is what you get.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Americans already detained under NDAA?

On Thursday, the plaintiffs in the case — journalist Chris Hedges, activist Tangerine Bolen, Pentagon Papers leaker Dan Ellsberg, their attorneys and others — told users of Reddit to ask them anything.
“The Obama DOJ has vigorously opposed these efforts, and immediately appealed her ruling and requested an emergency stay on the injunction – claiming the US would incur ‘irreparable harm’ if the president lost the power to use Section 1021 – and detain anyone, anywhere until the end of hostilities on a whim. This case will probably make its way to the Supreme Court,” the plaintiffs acknowledged in their introduction.

Offering his take on the case, Hedges said that he even believes the NDAA’s indefinite detention clause is already being used to imprison Americans, “because they filed an emergency appeal.”
“If the Obama administration simply appealed it, as we expected, it would have raised this red flag,” Hedges added. “But since they were so aggressive it means that once Judge Forrest declared the law invalid, if they were using it, as we expect, they could be held in contempt of court. This was quite disturbing, for it means, I suspect, that US citizens, probably dual nationals, are being held in military detention facilities almost certainly overseas and maybe at home.”

 

[bfdd]

They've been arresting anarchists in Washington

 

[Genx87]

Quiet you, there is a democrat in office. No complaining about civil liberties being squashed until an evil republican does it.

 

[Jaskalas]

This election year I encourage you to NOT have faith in government. Do not
vote. Do not become a "yes man" for government control.

Have you never heard of third parties?

 

[NoStateofMind]

Have you never heard of third parties?

Hows that third party working out for you?
Did you see a third party in the presidential debates?
Did you also know that its been ~20yrs since the last real chance to win? (Ross Perot)
What makes you think a third party is immune to corporate corruption?

Your 3rd party argument is ignorant to the fact it has only resulted in republicans and democrats being elected. Voting has gotten us where we are and still has not stopped bills like the NDAA from being signed into law. Its very clear we need to try something else because your "right to vote" hasn't helped.

 

[Anarchist420]

What makes you think a third party is immune to corporate corruption? Your 3rd party argument is ignorant to the fact it has only resulted in republicans and democrats being elected. Voting has gotten us where we are and still has not stopped bills like the NDAA from being signed into law. Its very clear we need to try something else because your "right to vote" hasn't helped.

Agreed. The LP and CP are both compromised. Johnson is a joke for the liberty movement and Virgil Goode is like a 180 degree turn from the excellent Chuck Baldwin. The Federalist Party's system will self destruct itself. It's inevitable at this point let's just hope we can survive the chaos that from the upcoming Hot War which should also be known as the 3rd in the series of "Great Wars"

 

[bfdd]

Agreed. The LP and CP are both compromised. Johnson is a joke for the liberty movement and Virgil Goode is like a 180 degree turn from the excellent Chuck Baldwin. The Federalist Party's system will self destruct itself. It's inevitable at this point let's just hope we can survive the chaos that from the upcoming Hot War which should also be known as the 3rd in the series of "Great Wars"

Johnson is not a joke for the liberty movement. He's as much a gradualist as one can be as a libertarian, which I can see may be a turn off to some of those who demand action be done now. Though imo he's taking significant action in just rolling the budget back to 03 levels alone as a start. He's for ending the fed, getting rid of the IRS and shrinking the living shit out of our international police force erm I mean military. You guys who demand the world be the way you want it now are just not being realistic and IMO you're being pussy by not actively starting rebellions. As much as I love liberty and freedom and will continue to push those two, I realize things happen gradually and if things are rushed mistakes/abuses pop up everywhere.

Remember evolution isn't instant.