The 22nd was an error. The polish site presented it (22nd was the original NDA date I think) but then pulled it casue they did it in error
This.
There was also no mention of the fact that the EVGA FTW model used doesn't come with an available lifetime warranty that is one of EVGA's selling points.
It was akward for Anandtech to bend to nVidia's will on the inclusion of a limited run ultra high OC'd card.
I doubt it will happen again. Whether anandtech decides to use crap like this in future reviews will be the answer to what most of us are wondering. Was it a good or poor choice to accomodate nvidia's wishes for how to present the review of a competitors new GPU release?
The quote above lays the reasoning for why a lot of guys feel it was a poor choice.
The 6850 Overclock Round Up.Which review was this? Since I'm one of those upset about the 460 FTW being used, I would like to read the review you are referencing.
The 6850 Overclock Round Up.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4002/amd-radeon-hd-6850-overclocking-roundup-asus-xfx-msi
We went through this gymnastics few times already, regardless of how many mincy little NV trolls keep pushing the BS here...
BTW you are really awful at reading AND interpreting words.Please, read my points again, I'm sure you can do it, don't give up...
HINT: I called 35% nonsense and I named the usual _real_ margin.
Most likely they will simply apply the same slimming trick on GTX460/570 they did on the fat, sweaty and still kinda slow Fermi... :awe:
So long as they are similarly priced i don't see what the problem is in including OC parts? If AMD isn't going to keep up with factory OC models its their loss.
I may sound bias at times but i use both NV and ATI cards. Best bang for buck (obviously power draw matters, where i live, electricity = $$$) to me is the winner.
Edit: Bryan, its ok, you can have balls to name names.
Hey, I don't give a crap either way. I'm just pointing something out some people are too willing to overlook. It was an overclock round up on the 6850, and everything was all well and good until the last line of the review. There was no need to put such a statement in the review if the review was not intended to compare the two cards. Why make such a statement?The scoundrels had the lowly little 5770 in there too!!! [/sarc]
Come on, mate. It's not at all the same thing. They also had the GTX-480 on the list. They didn't specifically measure the 460 as a direct competitor at the request of AMD. That was just a list of modern cards.
no, I don't want to get an infraction for calling anybody a poser at best and liar at worst. that sort of thing is not what we're here for.
however, since you and I are having a friendly conversation right now, I am curious about the magic driver for 68x0. When is it coming out, 2017?
Hey, I don't give a crap either way. I'm just pointing something out some people are too willing to overlook. It was an overclock round up on the 6850, and everything was all well and good until the last line of the review. There was no need to put such a statement in the review if the review was not intended to compare the two cards. Why make such a statement?
So, if people are going to moan over an overclocked 460 which was at a competing price point in the initial review, they should also ask that before such conclusions are drawn, the card being 'kicked to the curb' should be represented equally and fairly.
Anandtech specifically went against its editorial policy
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/...renewing-competition-in-the-midrange-market/7Is that right? How do you figure? And please don't link me to one of T2k's posts.
Anandtech said:As a matter of editorial policy we do not include overclocked cards on general reviews.
Is that right? How do you figure? And please don't link me to one of T2k's posts.
As we mentioned on the front page of this article, AMD and NVIDIA don’t officially have competing products at the same price points. The 6870 and 6850 are more expensive than the GTX 460 1GB and 768MB respectively, and above the 6870 is the GTX 470. However NVIDIA is particularly keen to have a competitor to the 6870 that isn’t a GTX 470, and so they’re pushing a 2nd option: a factory overclocked GTX 460 1GB.
As a matter of editorial policy we do not include overclocked cards on general reviews. As a product, reference cards will continue to be produced for quite a while, with good products continuing on for years. Overclocked cards on the other hand come and go depending on market conditions, and even worse no two overclocked cards are alike. If we did normally include overclocked cards, our charts would be full of cards that are only different by 5MHz.
However with the 6800 launch NVIDIA is pushing the overclocked GTX 460 option far harder than we’ve seen them push overclocked cards in the past –we had an EVGA GTX 460 1GB FTW on our doorstep before we were even back from Los Angeles. Given how well the GTX 460 overclocks and how many heavily overclocked cards there are on the market, we believe there is at least some merit to NVIDIA’s arguments, so in this case we went ahead and included the EVGA card in our review. As a reference point it's clocked at 850Mhz and 4GHz memory versus 675MHz core and 3.6MHz memory for a stock GTX 460, giving it a massive 26% core overclock and a much more moderate 11% memory overclock.
Given equal sample counts, CSAA is faster and has less memory usage, while looking as good as MSAA on primary polygon edges.Here is the link:
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=10638
BFG, can you give a quick 30,000ft overview of the differences?
Given how well the GTX 460 overclocks and how many heavily overclocked cards there are on the market, we believe there is at least some merit to NVIDIA’s arguments,
Naw, I just worded the search phrase to make it easy to find. :awe:P.S. Do I detect a bit of pride where you wrote: "Google GT200 anti-aliasing investigation - it's the first hit"?Nice article.
No offense taken at my end. :thumbsup:I was not implying arrogance at all.
Naw, I just worded the search phrase to make it easy to find. :awe:
No offense taken at my end. :thumbsup:
Of course you would if you're biased in the same respect (i.e. towards NVIDIA). If you can't see anything wrong with Anandtech going against their "editorial policy" simply because a company asked them to, then you have no place in this discussion.So whats the problem? Same price point right? Highly avalable right? Are you just saying they should have called it a gtx460.5?
If I felt that strongly about Anandtech and there bias , I cetainly would not post in there forums.
