NC policy change on tax refunds, you get it if we get around to it

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Modelworks

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Why don't they just come out and say, we decided to put off your return for 4 years, so we can keep it ?




http://www2.journalnow.com/content/2010/aug/16/nc-policy-change-may-nix-tax-refunds/
RALEIGH A policy change may mean that thousands of North Carolinians who overpay their taxes won't get refunds, the Raleigh News & Observer reported yesterday.


The change comes in how the state's Revenue Department decides an overpayment has been discovered. In previous years, a computer system would flag returns on which filers had mistakenly paid too much. After the return was checked by a department employee, the refund was made. The computer typically flags returns quickly after they are filed.


Now the department says overpayments are not "discovered" until an employee looks at the flagged return. If that review happens after the three-year window for refunds, the taxpayer could be out of luck.


The newspaper based its report on the tax agency's e-mail that was released after an appeal to the state attorney general's office. The agency would not comment on the issue beyond the release of e-mails.


"It is the governor's strong feeling that if we as a state have the opportunity to process these accounts in accordance with the law and pay people back the money that they are owed, that we should be doing it if we can," said Chrissy Pearson, a spokeswoman for Gov. Bev Perdue. "Unfortunately, the ‘if we can' is the big question here."


Pearson said she was told the Revenue Department thinks it would take $1 million to hire new staff to get through the backlog of 230,000 tax returns, some dating as far back as 1994, awaiting a review.
 

ShawnD1

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Revenue Department thinks it would take $1 million to hire new staff to get through the backlog of 230,000 tax returns, some dating as far back as 1994, awaiting a review.
Well then hire new staff. Why is this so freakin hard?
 

waggy

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nice. the state has it set up perfectly.

we can take years to give it to you and if we go slow enough we get to keep it!

what a scheme
 

boomerang

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Well then hire new staff. Why is this so freakin hard?
So, you think that would be a good return on their investment? Hire people to give out money?

It's a messed up situation, but anyone with any semblance of fiscal responsibility should recognize the folly in hiring under these circumstances.
 

highland145

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So, you think that would be a good return on their investment? Hire people to give out money?

It's a messed up situation, but anyone with any semblance of fiscal responsibility should recognize the folly in hiring under these circumstances.
Agree but hiring vs. stealing?

edit: So if I over paid last year and under paid this, will it be a wash. Bet not.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Agree but hiring vs. stealing?

edit: So if I over paid last year and under paid this, will it be a wash. Bet not.

He has a point but that point is only valid if there wasn't a backlog. Hire help to do the backlog and release them when it's caught up so you only have minimal staff to keep up with the existing work.
 

Vette73

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Maybe I am reading it wrong but this is you will not get a refund when you do your taxs, but if you have to write a check to the State but your math says you owe $500 but you really only owe $400. The state has to go back and recheck it. They then send you the $100 back.

So if you over paid as most do, and do the math correct this will not affect you. But if you did not pay enough then over pay then it may take more time to get it back.

Not much to this IMO.
 

sandorski

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Maybe I am reading it wrong but this is you will not get a refund when you do your taxs, but if you have to write a check to the State but your math says you owe $500 but you really only owe $400. The state has to go back and recheck it. They then send you the $100 back.

So if you over paid as most do, and do the math correct this will not affect you. But if you did not pay enough then over pay then it may take more time to get it back.

Not much to this IMO.

Ahh, and here I had the ultimate Tax Revolt slogan: We'll Pay our Taxes, if we get around to it!
 

Modelworks

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Maybe I am reading it wrong but this is you will not get a refund when you do your taxs, but if you have to write a check to the State but your math says you owe $500 but you really only owe $400. The state has to go back and recheck it. They then send you the $100 back.


Not much to this IMO.


Before the change the computer processed the return and if it saw a refund it was marked at that time as a refund, the statute of limitations effectively stopped, so even if it took 10 years for the return to be processed it didn't matter, the money was yours and it would be processed as fast as possible under the laws.


With the changes if you overpay, the computer will flag the return as having a problem, but not define it as a refund, the state will wait till it is reviewed by a person before they declare it as a refund. It is basically lumped in with every other return having a problem and gets no special status until reviewed. If that person waits 3 years to determine you are eligible for a refund then it doesn't matter if you are owed the money or not you don't get it.

The state changed the rules allowing them to keep money they couldn't before.
 

Blain

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I guess using tax returns as a forced savings account doesn't really work after all. :p
 

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I guess using tax returns as a forced savings account doesn't really work after all. :p

It still will do it. You just have to ensure that you do not make any mistakes
 

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