NBC Rejects Ad From Conservative Group

jpeyton

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I hope other networks scrutinize political ads as closely as NBC does. The political ad campaigns that aired during the 2004 elections were shameful (e.g. Swiftboat Veterans For [Mis]Truth).

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By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer

NBC has rejected a TV ad by Freedom's Watch, a conservative group that supports administration policy in Iraq, that asks viewers to remember and thank U.S. troops during the holiday season.

NBC said it declined to air the ad because it refers to the group's Web site, which the network said was too political, not because of the ad's message.

"Anybody in the world who would look at this ad would come away with nothing other than we should be thankful for their service," Freedom's Watch president Brad Blakeman said.

The spot was to be part of a seven-figure campaign that includes newspaper ads and television commercials. The ads are to run on CNN and Fox News Channel and are running in various newspapers. The New York Times ran a full-page Freedom's Watch ad Friday that said "Thank You!" and depicted a soldier reading a letter. The newspaper ad also contained the Web site address.

Alan Wurtzel, NBC's head of standards and practices, said the network decided not to run the Freedom's Watch ad because the group insisted that the spot contain the URL address of its Web site.

The group's home page links to another Freedom's Watch Web page that lists nonprofit organizations that are sending care packages to soldiers and that suggests other ways of expressing support.

It also contains a welcoming message that states: "For too long, conservatives have lacked a permanent political presence to do battle with the radical special interests groups and their left-wing allies in government."

"We have a policy that prohibits acceptance of advertising that deals with issues of public controversy," Wurtzel said. "This particular ad, in and of itself, is fine. It thanks the troops for their action overseas. We asked them to eliminate a URL address where a person is asked to contact elected officials and told not to cut and run on the war on terror."

NBC rejected a previous Freedom's Watch ad that addressed funding for the troops.

"It's a long-term policy, it goes back decades," Wurtzel said of NBC's stance of declining controversial issue advertising.

He suggested that Freedom's Watch did not alter the ad in order to force NBC to reject it and thus get media attention.

"Candidly, some folks have found that you get more attention when an ad is not accepted," he said.

Blakeman acknowledged that Freedom's Watch wants viewers of the ad to visit its Web site and said NBC's actions amounted to censorship.

Freedom's Watch has emerged as one of the best financed independent conservative groups in this election cycle.
 

Arkaign

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Both Fox news and NBC should be free to reject whatever ads they feel like, whether they are from right-wing or left-wing nutjobs.
 

Darwin333

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Shrug.

I am pretty conservative myself but as long as its within the law a company can refuse to do business with anyone they choose. With that said, it can get a bit dicey during actual election time (read: not a year before) but that is becoming less of an issue because of the I-net.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Liberal Media at it again.

Hey look, another stupid post from spidey07.

Why don't you go do some research about all the leftist ads that have been censored from broadcasts.
 

daveymark

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Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: daveymark
thanks, wouldn't have thought to check out the website unless someone posted about this :)

Website

"Candidly, some folks have found that you get more attention when an ad is not accepted," he said.


Mission accomplished I guess.

[/L]

Yep - the word is out, and the troops are being supported, thanks to this website. Mission accomplished, indeed.

Drats, NBC - foiled again!

for those of you that couldn't muster up the strength to click on the huge picture with the "Support the troops" emblazoned across it, here's a list:

http://www.adoptaplatoon.org
http://www.anysoldier.com
http://www.booksforsoldiers.com/
http://give2thetroops.org
http://www.moveamericaforward.org
http://www.operationhomefront.net
http://www.operationcareandcomfort.org
http://www.operationcarepackages.org
http://www.operationtroopaid.org
http://www.opgratitude.com
http://www.soldiersangels.org
http://www.usocares.org
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: sirjonk
Originally posted by: daveymark
thanks, wouldn't have thought to check out the website unless someone posted about this :)

Website

"Candidly, some folks have found that you get more attention when an ad is not accepted," he said.


Mission accomplished I guess.

[/L]

Yep - the word is out, and the troops are being supported, thanks to this website. Mission accomplished, indeed.

Drats, NBC - foiled again!

for those of you that couldn't muster up the strength to click on the huge picture with the "Support the troops" emblazoned across it, here's a list:

http://www.adoptaplatoon.org
http://www.anysoldier.com
http://www.booksforsoldiers.com/
http://give2thetroops.org
http://www.moveamericaforward.org
http://www.operationhomefront.net
http://www.operationcareandcomfort.org
http://www.operationcarepackages.org
http://www.operationtroopaid.org
http://www.opgratitude.com
http://www.soldiersangels.org
http://www.usocares.org

Good list. I don't mind supporting the troops.

I do think that the best way of supporting the troops is not sending them on senseless misadventures like Iraq, but that's another can of worms.

NBC had no qualms about the content of the ad beyond the link that went into 'cut and run' hyperbole, complete with jingoistic partisan nutjobbery.
 

techs

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The website is extremely deceptive. Its not an aid the troops website but an attempt to get you to go there because you support the troops, then attempts to convince you of their political agenda.
It's like Microsoft running an ad saying if you support open source software then gives a link to their website that told you how much better paid software is.
 

homercles337

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This god damn liberal media just wont stop will it? This is yet *another* clear cut example of the agenda of the liberal media.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Both Fox news and NBC should be free to reject whatever ads they feel like, whether they are from right-wing or left-wing nutjobs.

Originally posted by: jpeyton
"Anybody in the world who would look at this ad would come away with nothing other than we should be thankful for their service," Freedom's Watch president Brad Blakeman said.

Some nutjob.
 

magomago

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Okay here is what I think, after I read this article, saw some others and went to their websites

a) The content of this group:

This is a VERY partisan group who is VERY polarized.

These videos are absolutely ludicrous and a total lie. Out of all the silly comments in every single video, the most ridiculous IMO was "Congress was right to vote to fight terrorism in Iraq". OH RLY?!??? WHO INTRODUCED TERRORISM INTO THE COUNTRY. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. That wasn't what we went to war on.
On this basis the group is already doing a dis service to americans by lying about what is going on

b) Imo I'm not for this type of censorship. I don't like the idea of people controlling the information we are exposed to. Then again, it already happens - whether content is too racy, or whether content has poor taste in language,etc etc. but I would prefer trying to block censorship at every avenue possible(censoring censorship ;) ). The problem is when you have something as ridiculous as the Swiftboat Campaign against Kerry in 2004 which really was deceptive, and probably did more dis service to Americans by simply lying to them.
I think if these people truly had the best interests of the ideals of America...I wouldn't have an issue. But I've never met a multi billion dollar business that did...so I don't trust them.
But being a Multi billion dollar company - they do what they want. IF they think the money is worth it...then it is. If they think that it isn't worth it because it affects business later...then it isn't. That is the point for avoiding controversy - you don't want to offend people hurt your business.
I would prefer that certain industries have a higher calling than focus 100% on profit, but that is really for a different topic
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Both Fox news and NBC should be free to reject whatever ads they feel like, whether they are from right-wing or left-wing nutjobs.

Originally posted by: jpeyton
"Anybody in the world who would look at this ad would come away with nothing other than we should be thankful for their service," Freedom's Watch president Brad Blakeman said.

Some nutjob.

Don't bother reading the article though, or the part the OP bolded for you.

"This particular ad, in and of itself, is fine. It thanks the troops for their action overseas. We asked them to eliminate a URL address where a person is asked to contact elected officials and told not to cut and run on the war on terror."

They asked them to remove the URL, they said they wouldn't remove it, the ad was rejected. Commies.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: magomago
Okay here is what I think, after I read this article, saw some others and went to their websites

a) The content of this group:

This is a VERY partisan group who is VERY polarized.

These videos are absolutely ludicrous and a total lie. Out of all the silly comments in every single video, the most ridiculous IMO was "Congress was right to vote to fight terrorism in Iraq". OH RLY?!??? WHO INTRODUCED TERRORISM INTO THE COUNTRY. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. That wasn't what we went to war on.
On this basis the group is already doing a dis service to americans by lying about what is going on

I think this gets to the heart and power of the liberal media machine. That people don't think we are fighting terrorism in Iraq. It's the same tune the media has been spewing for years. I suggest you read the reasons on why we went there and the world events surrounding it. Iraq was sponsoring and funding terrorism and it had to be stopped.

NBC absolutely has the right to reject any content it desires. But this is one of the other indicators of their agenda. And if you can't see the agenda...well you're too far gone IMHO.
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: magomago
Okay here is what I think, after I read this article, saw some others and went to their websites

a) The content of this group:

This is a VERY partisan group who is VERY polarized.

These videos are absolutely ludicrous and a total lie. Out of all the silly comments in every single video, the most ridiculous IMO was "Congress was right to vote to fight terrorism in Iraq". OH RLY?!??? WHO INTRODUCED TERRORISM INTO THE COUNTRY. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. That wasn't what we went to war on.
On this basis the group is already doing a dis service to americans by lying about what is going on

I think this gets to the heart and power of the liberal media machine. That people don't think we are fighting terrorism in Iraq. It's the same tune the media has been spewing for years. I suggest you read the reasons on why we went there and the world events surrounding it. Iraq was sponsoring and funding terrorism and it had to be stopped.

WMDs!
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: homercles337
This god damn liberal media just wont stop will it? This is yet *another* clear cut example of the agenda of the liberal media.

:thumbsup:
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: magomago
Okay here is what I think, after I read this article, saw some others and went to their websites

a) The content of this group:

This is a VERY partisan group who is VERY polarized.

These videos are absolutely ludicrous and a total lie. Out of all the silly comments in every single video, the most ridiculous IMO was "Congress was right to vote to fight terrorism in Iraq". OH RLY?!??? WHO INTRODUCED TERRORISM INTO THE COUNTRY. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. That wasn't what we went to war on.
On this basis the group is already doing a dis service to americans by lying about what is going on

I think this gets to the heart and power of the liberal media machine. That people don't think we are fighting terrorism in Iraq. It's the same tune the media has been spewing for years. I suggest you read the reasons on why we went there and the world events surrounding it. Iraq was sponsoring and funding terrorism and it had to be stopped.

WMDs!

Iraq was hardly a blip on the radar as far as terrorism was concerned before the invasion. We've succeeded in making it into a hotbed of both home-grown and imported terrorist groups. This doesn't exactly ring as one of our greatest accomplishments.

NW Pakistan was the hottest spot on the planet at the time of the Iraq invasion as far as 'sponsoring' terrorism. And funding? Try Saudi Arabia.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: magomago
Okay here is what I think, after I read this article, saw some others and went to their websites

a) The content of this group:

This is a VERY partisan group who is VERY polarized.

These videos are absolutely ludicrous and a total lie. Out of all the silly comments in every single video, the most ridiculous IMO was "Congress was right to vote to fight terrorism in Iraq". OH RLY?!??? WHO INTRODUCED TERRORISM INTO THE COUNTRY. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. That wasn't what we went to war on.
On this basis the group is already doing a dis service to americans by lying about what is going on

I think this gets to the heart and power of the liberal media machine. That people don't think we are fighting terrorism in Iraq. It's the same tune the media has been spewing for years. I suggest you read the reasons on why we went there and the world events surrounding it. Iraq was sponsoring and funding terrorism and it had to be stopped.

WMDs!

Iraq was hardly a blip on the radar as far as terrorism was concerned before the invasion. We've succeeded in making it into a hotbed of both home-grown and imported terrorist groups. This doesn't exactly ring as one of our greatest accomplishments.

NW Pakistan was the hottest spot on the planet at the time of the Iraq invasion as far as 'sponsoring' terrorism. And funding? Try Saudi Arabia.

oh gee, looks like we have their western edge covered. Only thing in the way is iran. And we'll take care of that in due time.

These kinds of actions don't take place overnight. It has to be a full on assault. Learn from history please. Please learn what we did wrong with Germany - not only the military aspects, but the social and historical aspects.

 

Balt

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: magomago
Okay here is what I think, after I read this article, saw some others and went to their websites

a) The content of this group:

This is a VERY partisan group who is VERY polarized.

These videos are absolutely ludicrous and a total lie. Out of all the silly comments in every single video, the most ridiculous IMO was "Congress was right to vote to fight terrorism in Iraq". OH RLY?!??? WHO INTRODUCED TERRORISM INTO THE COUNTRY. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. That wasn't what we went to war on.
On this basis the group is already doing a dis service to americans by lying about what is going on

I think this gets to the heart and power of the liberal media machine. That people don't think we are fighting terrorism in Iraq. It's the same tune the media has been spewing for years. I suggest you read the reasons on why we went there and the world events surrounding it. Iraq was sponsoring and funding terrorism and it had to be stopped.

NBC absolutely has the right to reject any content it desires. But this is one of the other indicators of their agenda. And if you can't see the agenda...well you're too far gone IMHO.

Maybe you should absorb propaganda from Rove and Cheney with a little more skepticism. You look like a fool who will accept and regurgitate anything he's been given even when it contradicts what he was told last week/month/year by the same people.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: spidey07
I think this gets to the heart and power of the liberal media machine. That people don't think we are fighting terrorism in Iraq. It's the same tune the media has been spewing for years. I suggest you read the reasons on why we went there and the world events surrounding it. Iraq was sponsoring and funding terrorism and it had to be stopped.

NBC absolutely has the right to reject any content it desires. But this is one of the other indicators of their agenda. And if you can't see the agenda...well you're too far gone IMHO.

You didn't go to Iraq to fight terrorism.

You went to find the WMDs, and when you didn't find them, you changed your story to 'liberating the Iraqi people', and only when you discovered they didn't want to become an "occupied free country" (TM) did you start worrying about terrorism in Iraq.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: spidey07
oh gee, looks like we have their western edge covered. Only thing in the way is iran. And we'll take care of that in due time.

These kinds of actions don't take place overnight. It has to be a full on assault. Learn from history please. Please learn what we did wrong with Germany - not only the military aspects, but the social and historical aspects.

Yes, in the age of mechanized transportation, it makes perfect sense to spend unlimited dollars and create millions of enemies, to have a slightly better entry point to the real hostile country.

Good move.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: spidey07
I think this gets to the heart and power of the liberal media machine. That people don't think we are fighting terrorism in Iraq. It's the same tune the media has been spewing for years. I suggest you read the reasons on why we went there and the world events surrounding it. Iraq was sponsoring and funding terrorism and it had to be stopped.

NBC absolutely has the right to reject any content it desires. But this is one of the other indicators of their agenda. And if you can't see the agenda...well you're too far gone IMHO.

You didn't go to Iraq to fight terrorism.

You went to find the WMDs, and when you didn't find them, you changed your story to 'liberating the Iraqi people', and only when you discovered they didn't want to become an "occupied free country" (TM) did you start worrying about terrorism in Iraq.

Please read the article. Please.

You're a product of the liberal media.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: magomago
Okay here is what I think, after I read this article, saw some others and went to their websites

a) The content of this group:

This is a VERY partisan group who is VERY polarized.

These videos are absolutely ludicrous and a total lie. Out of all the silly comments in every single video, the most ridiculous IMO was "Congress was right to vote to fight terrorism in Iraq". OH RLY?!??? WHO INTRODUCED TERRORISM INTO THE COUNTRY. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. That wasn't what we went to war on.
On this basis the group is already doing a dis service to americans by lying about what is going on

I think this gets to the heart and power of the liberal media machine. That people don't think we are fighting terrorism in Iraq. It's the same tune the media has been spewing for years. I suggest you read the reasons on why we went there and the world events surrounding it. Iraq was sponsoring and funding terrorism and it had to be stopped.

NBC absolutely has the right to reject any content it desires. But this is one of the other indicators of their agenda. And if you can't see the agenda...well you're too far gone IMHO.

Maybe you should absorb propaganda from Rove and Cheney with a little more skepticism. You look like a fool who will accept and regurgitate anything he's been given even when it contradicts what he was told last week/month/year by the same people.

I remember the events of the world before 9/11 and after. Do you?