NBA playoff changes next year.

chuckywang

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The three division winners and the best second place team are now going to be seeded by win-loss record.

It's a good change, but I think one more change needs to be made.

I think that the home court advantage should go by seeding, not win-loss record. Otherwise, what would be the point of seeding? For example, last year Nuggets was the no. 3 seed and the Clippers were the no. 6 seed. However, since the Clippers had a better record than the Nuggets, they got home court advantage. This makes the seeding of these two teams totally irrelevant. The Nuggets might as well been the no. 6 seed and the Clippers the no. 3 seed with how home court advantage is determined.
 
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HCA should default to the division winner when a wild card team is involved. If you win your division you shouldn't have to lose home court to a wild card based on record. Winning a division should count for something.

Otherwise, what is the point of having different divisions inside a conference? If you're just going to rank by record, eliminate the divisions.
 

chuckywang

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Home court advantage should go to the team with the better record.

Then tell me what the point was of the Nuggets no. 3 seed last year?
 
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Was seeding an issue in the past besides last year? I don't remember anyone crying about this before... Then again I only pay attention to the Western Conference usually..
 

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
HCA should default to the division winner when a wild card team is involved. If you win your division you shouldn't have to lose home court to a wild card based on record. Winning a division should count for something.

Otherwise, what is the point of having different divisions inside a conference? If you're just going to rank by record, eliminate the divisions.

Agreed.
 
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Originally posted by: DLeRium
Was seeding an issue in the past besides last year? I don't remember anyone crying about this before... Then again I only pay attention to the Western Conference usually..
This was the inevitable thing that nobody thought would ever happen.


A western conference division winner (The Nuggets) had the 8th best record of the 8 playoff teams. So it didn't matter who they played, they would not have had HCA despite winning their division and grabbing a #3 seed.

Of course, in the same playoffs, you had the teams with the #1 and #2 records in the conference playing each other in round 2.

It was a very bizarre year that exposed a lot of flaws in the system.
 

UncleWai

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The whole division system is retarded. Just do top 8 of each conference advance and seed according to their record.
 

Zugzwang152

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Originally posted by: UncleWai
The whole division system is retarded. Just do top 8 of each conference advance and seed according to their record.

It's all about marketing. A team can be perceived to have a more "successful" season if they can say they were "division champs," rather than they "placed 3rd in the eastern conference and then got wiped the fsck out by the underdog in the first round" :D
 

chuckywang

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: DLeRium
Was seeding an issue in the past besides last year? I don't remember anyone crying about this before... Then again I only pay attention to the Western Conference usually..
This was the inevitable thing that nobody thought would ever happen.


A western conference division winner (The Nuggets) had the 8th best record of the 8 playoff teams. So it didn't matter who they played, they would not have had HCA despite winning their division and grabbing a #3 seed.

Of course, in the same playoffs, you had the teams with the #1 and #2 records in the conference playing each other in round 2.

It was a very bizarre year that exposed a lot of flaws in the system.

Yes, the Nuggets were technically the #3 seed, but what good did that do them? They were effectively the #6 seed since they didn't have home court advantage against the Clippers. I don't see why the NBA labeled them the #3 seed while giving them #6 seed treatment.
 

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Divisions were made in the first place to reduce travel times and cost for the league. Then to compensate for the fact that a particular division might have a group of tougher teams they let all division champs into the playoffs. They also help to create rivalries as you play the same few teams every year.

In basketball divisions don't really seem to mean much given the number of games you play outside of your division. In football divisions make more sense because you play 6 of your 16 games in your division leaving 10 games outside (which given 28 (non-divisional) teams really doesn't give a perfect picture of how good the team is). If basketball did eliminate divisions they would need to come up with a way of scheduling that was fair and helped build rivalries.
 

zendari

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Home court advantage should go to the team with the better record.

Then tell me what the point was of the Nuggets no. 3 seed last year?

They played the 6th seed, instead of a higher seed in a pure record based thing.
 

Electric Amish

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They really need to make the series all 5-games and not spread them out over months just to capitalize on TV money.
 

torpid

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Uh... they were #3 so they could play an easier team. If they were #8 they would have played against the spurs in the first round.
 

pmoa

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Maybe NBA should have a designated shooter position...They cant play defense and just sit on one end of the court, cherry picking... ;) the DS rule. (but only in Eastern Conference games)
 

junkerman123

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They should get rid of rule 412.31 -> Anyone who comes within 14 inches of Dwayne Wade at any time must be called for a shooting foul.
 

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Originally posted by: junkerman123
They should get rid of rule 412.31 -> Anyone who comes within 14 inches of Dwayne Wade at any time must be called for a shooting foul.

FTW