NBA: Lockout OVER!

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The little people that depend on professional sports will have jobs again, and the teabagging of white players will resume. Hooray.
 

Rudee

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I've never watched a game of basketball in my entire life, and I won't start now.
 

DrPizza

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I couldn't care less about the NBA as entertainment (it's not for me) but I'm glad for the local economies that rely on revenue generated due to league games.


How do local economies really benefit? I've seen this stated before, and disagree with it. Do people get to print money at home for the games? Do people spend more money that they otherwise would have used as toilet paper? All it does is shifts where the money is spent. Okay, you can argue that "but people come to the local area to watch home games" - okay, but again, that's simply a shift of where money is spent, so other localities have a loss in revenues. AND, when the game is an away game, you shift money OUT of the area.
 

child of wonder

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I thought Rubio was playing in Spain? Williams as in Deron Williams?

Rubio signed his rookie deal and will be playing this season for the Wolves.

Williams as in Derrick Williams.

Wolves lineup is now:

Ricky Rubio/Luke Ridnour
Wesley Johnson/Wayne Ellington
Michael Beasley/Derrick Williams
Kevin Love/Anthony Tolliver
Darko Milicic/Nikolai Pekovic

Head Coach: Rick Adelman

Still not playoff material, but should be much more competitive that last season and finally has a promising future with Adelman helping the young guys develop and putting a solid offensive and defensive scheme in place.
 
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Rubio signed his rookie deal and will be playing this season for the Wolves.

Williams as in Derrick Williams.

Wolves lineup is now:

Ricky Rubio/Luke Ridnour
Wesley Johnson/Wayne Ellington
Michael Beasley/Derrick Williams
Kevin Love/Anthony Tolliver
Darko Milicic/Nikolai Pekovic

Head Coach: Rick Adelman

Still not playoff material, but should be much more competitive that last season and finally has a promising future with Adelman helping the young guys develop and putting a solid offensive and defensive scheme in place.

I wouldn't expect anything from Rubio. He's a very young guy playing his first year of NBA ball. Even the great Nowitzki took a few years to get settled in. I do agree that Minnesota does have a bright future on paper. Depending of course on if Williams and Rubio pan out.
 

slayer202

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How do local economies really benefit? I've seen this stated before, and disagree with it. Do people get to print money at home for the games? Do people spend more money that they otherwise would have used as toilet paper? All it does is shifts where the money is spent. Okay, you can argue that "but people come to the local area to watch home games" - okay, but again, that's simply a shift of where money is spent, so other localities have a loss in revenues. AND, when the game is an away game, you shift money OUT of the area.

42 days/nights out of the year, hotels/restaurants and even local shopping sites get a boost. Plenty of jobs involved. If people aren't spending money to go to the game or go to bars to watch, it's not like they are saying "oh, I have this extra income, let me go spend it in the local area." They could be saving more, or spending more elsewhere. Sure, the national GDP isn't taking a hit, but the local communities, especially the smaller ones, are affected. It's quite clear
 

Cobalt

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FINALLY!

I can't wait to finally see my Timberwolves start to turn things around now that we've added Rubio, Williams, and Adelman.

Future bust listed in bold. Sorry but Kahn doesn't know how to draft, Williams was just a no brainer, and he has had epic fails in signing/extending players. Examples: Darko, Flynn, Pekovic, etc.
 

Nintendesert

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How do local economies really benefit? I've seen this stated before, and disagree with it. Do people get to print money at home for the games? Do people spend more money that they otherwise would have used as toilet paper? All it does is shifts where the money is spent. Okay, you can argue that "but people come to the local area to watch home games" - okay, but again, that's simply a shift of where money is spent, so other localities have a loss in revenues. AND, when the game is an away game, you shift money OUT of the area.



I traveled from out of state to watch the Cowboys play in Dallas, the money I spent on hotels and restaurants is money I wouldn't have spent here. I wouldn't get a hotel in my local town. I guess you can argue that any money spent anywhere is just shifting resources, but the local area in Arlington gets a huge boost to all the people bringing that wealth in.
 

child of wonder

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Future bust listed in bold. Sorry but Kahn doesn't know how to draft, Williams was just a no brainer, and he has had epic fails in signing/extending players. Examples: Darko, Flynn, Pekovic, etc.

If Rubio will be such a bust why has the national media focused so heavily on how Kahn should trade him elsewhere and that Rubio doesn't want to play in Minnesota? Odd that so many teams covet him if he's so terrible.

He's a 21 year old kid with an uncanny knack for finding open teammates. He's got a good head on his shoulders. He'll be fine.
 

RbSX

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Awww I guess the hood rats decided that they couldn't afford to hold out any longer because they spent all their money on buying escalades for their crewwww.

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HendrixFan

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Awww I guess the hood rats decided that they couldn't afford to hold out any longer because they spent all their money on buying escalades for their crewwww.

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Actually the players dissolved the union and hired David Boies on as a lawyer (prominent in the Microsoft anti trust case) after the owners became too heavy handed in negotiations. Once that happened the owners backed off of quite a bit of their demands which led to this deal.
 

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Actually the players dissolved the union and hired David Boies on as a lawyer (prominent in the Microsoft anti trust case) after the owners became too heavy handed in negotiations. Once that happened the owners backed off of quite a bit of their demands which led to this deal.

One can't help but think that dissolving the union really struck some fear in the owners. There has to be more to the story than is being trickled out right now. This thing went from "nuclear winter" to "hot cocoa and triple games of awesomeness at Christmas" in a matter of a couple weeks. The owners had the deck stacked, the right cards in their hand, and players called their bluff.

Weird turn around. There had to be something in the lawsuits that scared the crap out of them.
 

HendrixFan

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From what I have read, the players were expecting the owners to try and leverage a whole season against them in hopes they would run out of money since they weren't getting paid. Charles Barkley said very early on he expected the entire season to be lost. There was quite a bit of contention on the players side that the owners felt like they owned the players and not the teams (see Dan Gilbert and Lebron), leading to fiery exchanges from Wade, Garnett, and others directed towards the men in suits.

The players seemingly socked away quite a bit of money in preparation for the long haul, unlike in 99. That combined with "going nuclear" by dissolving the union and holding fast was enough to call the owners bluff of canceling a season.

It will be interesting to see what info of the behind the scenes stuff leaks out over time.
 
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Xmas day Mavs v Heat and to top it off it's in Dallas and they'll be having the ring ceremony in front of Lebrick and Co.

Yes!!!
 

NeoV

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Rubio can pass and dribble, but he can't shoot

If you are white, and you make it to the NBA, you can play, period.

NBA players, playing overseas, have out-clauses in their contracts if the lockout ends.
 

HendrixFan

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Xmas day Mavs v Heat and to top it off it's in Dallas and they'll be having the ring ceremony in front of Lebrick and Co.

Yes!!!

Are the same Xmas games all still on? They will be re-doing the schedule for the shorter season, but we will still have 3 Xmas games.