Nazi Fvck Ashcroft Rules on Immigrants' Detention

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Ashcroft Rules on Immigrants' Detention

Ascroft says that illegal aliens can be held indefinetly without bond. Read the article, it's not only about Arabs, but
Ashcroft sees it as a way of stemming illegal immigration from Haiti. Reasoning? If they see that we can put them in jail forever, they might not try to come to the US. Oh, and some Pakistanis and Palestinians might try to come into the US via Haiti. You know, because it is so much harder to slip in from Canada. And you thought Al Qaeda was the single greatest threat to "the American way".
 

Zebo

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eugenics

\Eu*gen"ics\, n. The science of improving stock, whether human or animal. --F. Galton.


Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary

eugenics

n : the study of methods of improving genetic qualities by selective breeding (especially as applied to human mating) [ant: dysgenics]
 

LilBlinbBlahIce

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Originally posted by: Carbonyl
eugenics

\Eu*gen"ics\, n. The science of improving stock, whether human or animal. --F. Galton.


Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary

eugenics

n : the study of methods of improving genetic qualities by selective breeding (especially as applied to human mating) [ant: dysgenics]

I don't catch your drift.
 

Zebo

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He wants to keep america white and is using terror as an excuse. IMO
 

Zebo

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Personally I think it's a degredation of quality but he believes the way he believes.
 

NuclearFusi0n

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I have never loathed a politician as much as I do Ashcroft. He is pure evil.
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BarneyFife

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I have to agree. I don't like this guy at all. Bush should have picked someone that was a tad bit moderate. This guy is a nut.
 

Zebo

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How many Haitians have ever blown up or threatend an American citizen? This guise of terror to hold them indefinity is discussting. When they start doing the same to germans and other whites I'll change my mind. He's been fishing with Lott too long.
 

Mavrick

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I was going to post the same link...

Well, that's really sad. More and more, I'm starting to feel like the days of true freedom and justice for all are fading away :(
 

junkyardDawg

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I'm no fan of Ashcroft but I don't see where this is so over the top

an illegal immigrant that is a security risk should be detained

In addition, the State Department has warned that Haiti has become "a staging point" for non-Haitians considered security threats, including Pakistanis and Palestinians, to enter the United States.

that's the State dept, not Justice; is Powell trying to "keep America white" too?
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: junkyardDawg
I'm no fan of Ashcroft but I don't see where this is so over the top

an illegal immigrant that is a security risk should be detained

In addition, the State Department has warned that Haiti has become "a staging point" for non-Haitians considered security threats, including Pakistanis and Palestinians, to enter the United States.

that's the State dept, not Justice; is Powell trying to "keep America white" too?

I bet I could differentiate a Pakistani from a haitian at 100 yrds. I sure they much more resourceful methods once thier in custody. It's fact they are using the state dept as an excuse not to use discression and investigation of the refugees comming in..
 

Ornery

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Dumb Fvck LilBlinbBlahIce lost me on this one!

If the government can show national security issues are involved, aliens will not be released on bond while their cases are decided by immigration judges.

BFD! What's your problem?

BTW, John Lee Malvo slipped in via Haiti. God knows who they'll allow to pass through there from here on out.
 

Leon

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Ascroft says that illegal aliens can be held indefinetly without bond

Sounds right to me. I don't like Ashcroft and his policies, but I don't see a problem in this case. Perhaps he should add Mexicans to the list as well - but instead of jail, it should say deportation ;)
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Leon
Ascroft says that illegal aliens can be held indefinetly without bond

Sounds right to me. I don't like Ashcroft and his policies, but I don't see a problem in this case. Perhaps he should add Mexicans to the list as well - but instead of jail, it should say deportation ;)


So in other words; "I got mine fusk you!"


Personally I like the cheep labor they provide. But I eat lots of Mexican:)
 

Tom

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I don't know the facts in this case but isn't Ashcroft's ruling primarily to clarify who has jurisdiction over setting bail for illegal immigrants ?

Doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
 

kylebisme

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Originally posted by: Leon
Ascroft says that illegal aliens can be held indefinetly without bond

Sounds right to me. I don't like Ashcroft and his policies, but I don't see a problem in this case. Perhaps he should add Mexicans to the list as well - but instead of jail, it should say deportation ;)


sure, deporting illegal aliens is acceptable, but imprisoning them indefinitely sounds rather fascist to me. also, i really don't want to have my tax dolors going to support the imprisonment of people for such things.
 
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Originally posted by: Ornery
Dumb Fvck LilBlinbBlahIce lost me on this one!

If the government can show national security issues are involved, aliens will not be released on bond while their cases are decided by immigration judges.

BFD! What's your problem?

BTW, John Lee Malvo slipped in via Haiti. God knows who they'll allow to pass through there from here on out.

Since when has this administration bothered showing anything to any judge to justify what they do? This whole administration is about removing the check the judicial branch holds over the executive, this is no different.
 

AntaresVI

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Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Originally posted by: Ornery
Dumb Fvck LilBlinbBlahIce lost me on this one!

If the government can show national security issues are involved, aliens will not be released on bond while their cases are decided by immigration judges.

BFD! What's your problem?

BTW, John Lee Malvo slipped in via Haiti. God knows who they'll allow to pass through there from here on out.

Since when has this administration bothered showing anything to any judge to justify what they do? This whole administration is about removing the check the judicial branch holds over the executive, this is no different.

When has any case against the administration come to court? Judges can't just rule on a whim....

That said, I agree that illegal immigrants should not be supported by the United States. Deport them.
 

dahunan

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All in Favor of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS say "aye"




All who believe WE HAVE ENOUGH GOD DAMNED TROUBLE IN THIS COUNTRY ALREADY AND THINK EVERY SINGLE PERSON HERE ILLEGALLY NEEDS TO BE SENT HOME IMMEDIATELY .... SAY "aye"