Navy being pulled for training in the Army..?

ValkyrieofHouston

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I heard about this last night on the news.... this is kinda scary when you think about it. This would indicate that we are running scarce on our marine and army troops possibly?

Any thoughts on this...?
 
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The Marine Corps are the only branch who've consistantly hit their quotas lately. The other branches could learn from them and their tactics. they're aggresive, but they work and in the end they weed out the weak.
 

chambersc

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Is cross training in the military normal? Or is this a sign that our troops are strained?

the latter.

MisterJackson, you're aware that they've recently lowered enlistment requirements, right? Also, IDK about consistently hitting their marks -- I remember something about a couple months where enlistment was down overall. This year, yeah they've been up in recruiting but last year, i think as a whole the millitary was down some double digit percentage points.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: DeadByDawn
Not normal and not a good sign. Not time to panic yet though.



Um, ok, so when is it the time to start panicking... and wouldn't it be better to be proactive and not let it get to that point??
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Any link to a credible news source reporting this?


Last night, it was Channel 13 Eyewitness News...ABC that gave the little blip on it. I have been searching for a link on this. Can't find it though. It was the local Houston news.
 

CVSiN

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yup I was telling her same thing last night when we saw it..

10 years Navy and never saw recruits going from Navy boot camp to Army infantry training instead of going to ships squadrons etc...

I dont think anything like this has ever happened... not even during the WWs..

this means our armed forces are under alot of strain to send Navy guys to be soldiers...

Navy people are usually more techy skilled than the soldier type... (except for the crazy ones that goes SEALS or EOD or Corpsman that volenteer for combat medic..)

Scary times indeed.



 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
yup I was telling her same thing last night when we saw it..

10 years Navy and never saw recruits going from Navy boot camp to Army infantry training instead of going to ships squadrons etc...

I dont think anything like this has ever happened... not even during the WWs..

this means our armed forces are under alot of strain to send Navy guys to be soldiers...

Navy people are usually more techy skilled than the soldier type... (except for the crazy ones that goes SEALS or EOD or Corpsman that volenteer for combat medic..)

Scary times indeed.

If this is what you are refering to I don't really see anything scary or odd about it. Seems like a smart move to me given where these sailors are being sent. Totally different reason than the spin being given in this thread.
 

jlbenedict

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sounds like hogwash..
the Army exceeded their retention goals even though their recruiting goal was short I believe.. resulting in no shortage of manpower
 

b0mbrman

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I wouldn't be too concerned. It's internal restructuring without making the large, sweeping changes that will probably eventually come, anyway.

It just means that a traditional navy is less relevant in the current war and current world.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I wouldn't be too concerned. It's internal restructuring without making the large, sweeping changes that will probably eventually come, anyway.

It just means that a traditional navy is less relevant in the current war and current world.



Huh? I thought the Navy was the major driving force behind most of the recent wars we fought...?

How are they traditional and less relevant..? Explain?
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: CVSiN
yup I was telling her same thing last night when we saw it..

10 years Navy and never saw recruits going from Navy boot camp to Army infantry training instead of going to ships squadrons etc...

I dont think anything like this has ever happened... not even during the WWs..

this means our armed forces are under alot of strain to send Navy guys to be soldiers...

Navy people are usually more techy skilled than the soldier type... (except for the crazy ones that goes SEALS or EOD or Corpsman that volenteer for combat medic..)

Scary times indeed.

If this is what you are refering to I don't really see anything scary or odd about it. Seems like a smart move to me given where these sailors are being sent. Totally different reason than the spin being given in this thread.

The scary part is this is HIGHLY unusual for Navy sailors to even be placed in this type of riole...

Navy sailors only fire a pistol for basic familiariszation in boot amd usually never pick one up again thier entire careers instead of a gun we use a wrench..

Navy sailors are not combat troops and are usually far away from harms way on our ships and rear stations..

This is a highly unusual move to steal recruits and reservists from a healthy branch to pull duties supporting an Army that can no longer support itself..

 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I wouldn't be too concerned. It's internal restructuring without making the large, sweeping changes that will probably eventually come, anyway.

It just means that a traditional navy is less relevant in the current war and current world.

lol you sir are totally clueless....

you do realize over half the ordiance dropped the first 2 days of the war came from Navy aircraft from 3 carriers...
and over 3/4 of the munitions used in Desert Storm were Navy Aircraft..

the navy was there LONG before any ground troops or AF jerks ever entered the theater..

were were making patrols in the Persian Gulf years before desert storm even happened..

we are ALWAYS the first units to arrive to any crisis...

Navy is in no danger of being retructured to anything..
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
maybe it's for Navy people based on ground?

thats not what the news said... the news said they were being trained to AUGMENT and SUPPORT shorthanded US Army and Marine Corp troops on the ground..
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I wouldn't be too concerned. It's internal restructuring without making the large, sweeping changes that will probably eventually come, anyway.

It just means that a traditional navy is less relevant in the current war and current world.

lol you sir are totally clueless....

you do realize over half the ordiance dropped the first 2 days of the war came from Navy aircraft from 3 carriers...
and over 3/4 of the munitions used in Desert Storm were Navy Aircraft..

the navy was there LONG before any ground troops or AF jerks ever entered the theater..

were were making patrols in the Persian Gulf years before desert storm even happened..

we are ALWAYS the first units to arrive to any crisis...

Navy is in no danger of being retructured to anything..

Yep, they sure bombed Iraq into submission. That's why they're the most relevant and the whole of the military is back in the US drinking beers...
 

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Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Is cross training in the military normal? Or is this a sign that our troops are strained?

the latter.

MisterJackson, you're aware that they've recently lowered enlistment requirements, right? Also, IDK about consistently hitting their marks -- I remember something about a couple months where enlistment was down overall. This year, yeah they've been up in recruiting but last year, i think as a whole the millitary was down some double digit percentage points.

No. The Army has hit its recruiting marks consistently over the last few months after a period where they were missing their mark. I don't recall the other services ever being short on recruiting. Retention recruiting has exceeded goals since the fighting began in Afghanistan.

Also, the number of troops in Iraq is slowly decreasing. A group out of Ft. Stewart in Georgia just came home the other day. Nobody was rotating into Iraq to replace them.
 

ValkyrieofHouston

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I wouldn't be too concerned. It's internal restructuring without making the large, sweeping changes that will probably eventually come, anyway.

It just means that a traditional navy is less relevant in the current war and current world.

lol you sir are totally clueless....

you do realize over half the ordiance dropped the first 2 days of the war came from Navy aircraft from 3 carriers...
and over 3/4 of the munitions used in Desert Storm were Navy Aircraft..

the navy was there LONG before any ground troops or AF jerks ever entered the theater..

were were making patrols in the Persian Gulf years before desert storm even happened..

we are ALWAYS the first units to arrive to any crisis...

Navy is in no danger of being retructured to anything..

Yep, they sure bombed Iraq into submission. That's why they're the most relevant and the whole of the military is back in the US drinking beers...


??

Will somebody Pleeeaazze explain to this here lil blonde... what the hell you all are talking about...! Grrrrrr....
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
I wouldn't be too concerned. It's internal restructuring without making the large, sweeping changes that will probably eventually come, anyway.

It just means that a traditional navy is less relevant in the current war and current world.

lol you sir are totally clueless....

you do realize over half the ordiance dropped the first 2 days of the war came from Navy aircraft from 3 carriers...
and over 3/4 of the munitions used in Desert Storm were Navy Aircraft..

the navy was there LONG before any ground troops or AF jerks ever entered the theater..

were were making patrols in the Persian Gulf years before desert storm even happened..

we are ALWAYS the first units to arrive to any crisis...

Navy is in no danger of being retructured to anything..

Yep, they sure bombed Iraq into submission. That's why they're the most relevant and the whole of the military is back in the US drinking beers...

what are you just an ignorant redneck bush hater? or just ignorant.. you choose...

we kicked the crap outa the military in a few weeks... what we are fighting now is insurgents from all over the muslim world not just iraqis...
your such an ignorant tool have you ever served your country? I dont think you have.. you come off as a pacifist arm chair politician who knows absolute didly about the real world..
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
maybe it's for Navy people based on ground?


Navy people on the ground?
:confused:

I spent the majority of my 4 years in the Navy on the beach. It is not all that uncommon, when I was in they tried to rotate duty stations between shore duty and sea duty.