Nature of the universe

IceBergSLiM

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Is the universe inherently ruled by chaos and any perceived order fabricated in the human brain and only temporary

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Is the universe inherently ruled by order and any perceived chaos frabricated in the human brain and only temporary


whY?


EDIT: Just realized the irony of the question as Law implies order fixing now
 

nerp

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The laws of physics do not stop at the edge our atmosphere.
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: nerp
The laws of physics do not stop at the edge our atmosphere.

laws are man made and are always broken. why are these any different?

Are you serious? :confused:

We may not have knowledge of all the laws governing everything yet, but once you actually look at it, the universe is incredibly ordered, every part of it following specific laws. There are no stars that ignore gravity, no reactions that would be physically impossible.

It only seems like Chaos to those unwilling to look and actually analyze what is going on. Everything in the universe can be mathematically explained. We don't know all the formulas yet, but they all have one.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: nerp
The laws of physics do not stop at the edge our atmosphere.

laws are man made and are always broken. why are these any different?

Are you serious? :confused:

We may not have knowledge of all the laws governing everything yet, but once you actually look at it, the universe is incredibly ordered, every part of it following specific laws. There are no stars that ignore gravity, no reactions that would be physically impossible.

It only seems like Chaos to those unwilling to look and actually analyze what is going on. Everything in the universe can be mathematically explained. We don't know all the formulas yet, but they all have one.

its a good point but not a very valid one.

If we were 2 dimensional beings we would have very different laws of physics.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: her209
Water always flows downhill. Is that order or chaos?

Its not proof either way. Temporary order that can't even be a rule or law as I can think of multiple exceptions
 

GagHalfrunt

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Order. What the universe is doing is according to its own set of rules. We simply don't understand all of them.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Order. What the universe is doing is according to its own set of rules. We simply don't understand all of them.

lol so can the unvierses rules be chaos?
 

Auggie

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Order.

Entropy exists, but fits into physics models, calculations and equations. Thermodynamics describes disorder. Our reality is filled with physical constants and thermodynamic and quantum mechanic limits.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: Auggie
Order.

Entropy exists, but fits into physics models, calculations and equations. Thermodynamics describes disorder. Our reality is filled with physical constants and thermodynamic and quantum mechanic limits.

are you implying that our reality is the only thing in the universe that doesn't evolve or change?