Native American Confronts Protesters on Illegal Immigration

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fskimospy

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For the ONE HUNDREDTH TIME: They had no laws, they did not own the land, they had no government. Americans are not illegals.
Stop being stupid.

Stop being stupid. Settlers from the US repeatedly settled lands expressly denied to them by federal treaty.

So they were immigrating to lands...and doing so in violation of the law. What do you call someone that immigrated illegally?

Might want to read up on the trail of tears for starters.
 

nehalem256

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So they were immigrating to lands...and doing so in violation of the law. What do you call someone that immigrated illegally?

And did the settlers become Cherokees? Or did the land they settled then become US land?

Is it really too challenging for you to understand the difference between immigration and invasion?
 

FerrelGeek

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[quot=FerrelGeek;34591856]What's history is history; no turning back.

A complete lie as proof I give you the state of israel. Something that died in history 2,000 years ago . Why was it restored at the cost of the people who lived there in present history . Your words are empty and proven untrue . Dang monkeys

I was going to respond to this...

What about the Jewish slavers who brought slaves to America . Should all whites pay for their sins, I forgot The Hebrew god allows Jews to trade in flesh .

Then I read this.

'nuff said. You're insane. Not even gonna bother.
 

FelixDeCat

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The Spanish discovered what would become America and the rest of the peoples of Europe created it.
 
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I think the point is that it is hypocritical for whites of European descent to complain about immigration considering their history here.

By that logic, it's hypocritical for whites to be against slavery considering their history here. No white person alive today is responsible for what happened in colonial America or during the time of Manifest Destiny. Having white guilt for the crimes of our ancestors doesn't do any good, it just increases racial tensions. Yes, what happened to American Indians was shitty, but that has literally nothing to do with our current immigration policy, and bringing it up turns the issue emotional rather than logical, which is a terrible way to legislate.
 

Bird222

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For the ONE HUNDREDTH TIME: They had no laws, they did not own the land, they had no government. Americans are not illegals.
Stop being stupid.

You land on an uninhabited planet and you build a shelter there. Do you own it? What has to happen before you think you own it?
 

nehalem256

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By that logic, it's hypocritical for whites to be against slavery considering their history here.

Actually by the argument presented it is wrong for anyone to oppose pretty much anything.

Most if not all people (and certainly all races) have ancestors that raped, murdered, stole, owned slaves etc...
 

fskimospy

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By that logic, it's hypocritical for whites to be against slavery considering their history here. No white person alive today is responsible for what happened in colonial America or during the time of Manifest Destiny. Having white guilt for the crimes of our ancestors doesn't do any good, it just increases racial tensions. Yes, what happened to American Indians was shitty, but that has literally nothing to do with our current immigration policy, and bringing it up turns the issue emotional rather than logical, which is a terrible way to legislate.

I agree that legislation today shouldn't take it into account, but the OP has a point.

And yes, if you build your society on slavery and then tell others they can't do the same it is hypocritical. Who cares? There are worse things than hypocrisy in the world. Slavery for one.
 

nehalem256

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I agree that legislation today shouldn't take it into account, but the OP has a point.

And yes, if you build your society on slavery and then tell others they can't do the same it is hypocritical. Who cares? There are worse things than hypocrisy in the world. Slavery for one.

So in your estimation when can white people stop feeling bad for having owned slaves (that were sold to them by black people)?

200 years?
500 years?
1000 years?

:confused:
 

DaveSimmons

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Some Native American tribes practiced slavery and human sacrifice of captives before the Europeans arrived.
 

nehalem256

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Some Native American tribes practiced slavery and human sacrifice of captives before the Europeans arrived.

So what you are saying is that the protesters should have used turned the man into a human sacrifice as a lesson in his own ideology :thumbsup:
 

chucky2

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So what you are saying is that the protesters should have used turned the man into a human sacrifice as a lesson in his own ideology :thumbsup:

Forget that. Should have scalped him, taken his power, so they could use that power to better combat the illegal invasion. From a Native American perspective, it'd be right on! :thumbsup:

Each time illegal invasion supporters bring up things like this, I LMAO. It's like the perfect example of self-ownage. :biggrin: