Nationwide Protest against bush's illegal occupation!

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Cerb

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I hate it for you, but I do not see how it is illegal in the least.
The President can basically do whatever he wants with foreign policy, including full military control.
 

Kibbo

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It's illegal based on international law, whereby you cannot attack another country without UN Security council authorization, unless you have been attacked or are under imminent threat of being attacked.

Note that it was the US who basically wrote international law, and that the international treaties which agreed to these conditions were ratified by your congress.

Of course, under these same laws, Vietnam and Kosovo were both also illegal engagements.
 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: da loser
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
The Pentagon says more than 5,500 servicemen have deserted since the war started in Iraq
These reasons have always been the cause against the war, you may want to try to get your info from a less biased source methinks.
You have got it all wrong IMO. :beer:

ok, so 5,500 decided not to go, then that means the rest decided to go. what's the problem?

If you don't see the problem in this then you are pulling my chain :cookie:

So 5,500 out of 140,000 decided not to go. So you're saying if that 4% decides not to go, we should take that as a sign not to go at all? What about the other 96% who DID decide to go? I take it their choice is irrelevant?

Of course it is, you only count the FEW who agree with you as real people.

Jason

On the other hand, would Steep decide that it is time to go if only 4% decided to go? Same rational, just a different bias.

 

Starbuck1975

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It's illegal based on international law, whereby you cannot attack another country without UN Security council authorization, unless you have been attacked or are under imminent threat of being attacked.

Note that it was the US who basically wrote international law, and that the international treaties which agreed to these conditions were ratified by your congress.

Of course, under these same laws, Vietnam and Kosovo were both also illegal engagements.

Then perhaps the UN should have been a bit more careful in the wording of its resolutions, because if you examine the timeline of the whole Iraqi fiasco, the UN's stance on Iraq is not consistent with its decisions.

The maturation of the resolution stance against Iraq essentially justified the use of force against Iraq...the member nations of the UN simply lacked the resolve to enforce their own resolution.

Now you can make an argument that Bush's justifications for going into Iraq...the WOT and WMD...were unjustified...however, Saddam's simple noncompliance with UN inspectors was enough to justify military action under UN resolution.
 

ciba

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
There are sure to be more pics and probably video coming soon. WOOT - moonbats on parade...gotta love it! :laugh:

I love how the lefties bash on everyone else for inhibiting their "right" to riot in the streets, but the good folks at PW can't go to a single event without getting attacked.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Dedicated to all those protestors

Uh oh - now you've done it.
:thumbsup:

CsG

Hey I believe the reason for going there was BS but it would be incredibly foolish to withdraw all our forces now. We have to fix our fsck up and leaving those W*** to fend for themselves would be a disaster. If all those terrorists that were created by our invasion were left alone they'd just attack us on our own soil. We created the Monster, now it's up to us to kill it.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Pics from the moonbat parade:
Purple middle-fingerHow nice. Does she represent the left's view on the Iraq elections???another pic of this beeatch

This moron was calling the Protest Warriors and pro-Israel supporters "nazis"Isn't he cute in his spittle spewing hatred?

There are sure to be more pics and probably video coming soon. WOOT - moonbats on parade...gotta love it! :laugh:

CsG
Menstruate on Bush?

Victory to the Iraqi resistance?

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

CsG
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
Don't you love it when someone is being sacastic but their statement is correct? Dealmonkey?

[...psychobabble snipped...]
Nope, chalk it up to the predictible reactions of the pro-war crowd around here. Yourself, Cad and Raildawg have all amply demonstrated your inability to tolerate others with a different opinion than yourselves. I for one disagree on many levels with the war in Iraq, however at least I can respect the opinions of those who do agree with our government's actions there.

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: cwjerome
Don't you love it when someone is being sacastic but their statement is correct? Dealmonkey?

[...psychobabble snipped...]
Nope, chalk it up to the predictible reactions of the pro-war crowd around here. Yourself, Cad and Raildawg have all amply demonstrated your inability to tolerate others with a different opinion than yourselves. I for one disagree on many levels with the war in Iraq, however at least I can respect the opinions of those who do agree with our government's actions there.

Oh, I can tolerate others who have a differing point of view - however, that doesn't mean I have to respect them or their views. I just respect their right to have and voice them.

CsG
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey I believe the reason for going there was BS but it would be incredibly foolish to withdraw all our forces now. We have to fix our fsck up and leaving those W*** to fend for themselves would be a disaster. If all those terrorists that were created by our invasion were left alone they'd just attack us on our own soil. We created the Monster, now it's up to us to kill it.
Who said we have to withdraw all our forces now? Don't you think it's possible to disagree with our government's actions in Iraq and yet be resigned to having to clean-up the mess we created?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey I believe the reason for going there was BS but it would be incredibly foolish to withdraw all our forces now. We have to fix our fsck up and leaving those W*** to fend for themselves would be a disaster. If all those terrorists that were created by our invasion were left alone they'd just attack us on our own soil. We created the Monster, now it's up to us to kill it.
Who said we have to withdraw all our forces now? Don't you think it's possible to disagree with our government's actions in Iraq and yet be resigned to having to clean-up the mess we created?
Uhhh.. That's what I said!
 

Steeplerot

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"Good people at PW" bwahahaha those people are instigators and nothing more. I am sure you all would love to arm them to.
freakin SA is all they are. Yet you people encourage it.
ripping up signs threating and taunting a crowd of 10,000 when there are only about 10 of them is stupid. Only reason thy do it is to try to start a riot. Someday they may get their wish. And I am sure no cops are going to be able to save their fascist asses. (or would want to)
Have you ever read their forums? They are dumb as a doornail on a anne coulter kick.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey I believe the reason for going there was BS but it would be incredibly foolish to withdraw all our forces now. We have to fix our fsck up and leaving those W*** to fend for themselves would be a disaster. If all those terrorists that were created by our invasion were left alone they'd just attack us on our own soil. We created the Monster, now it's up to us to kill it.
Who said we have to withdraw all our forces now? Don't you think it's possible to disagree with our government's actions in Iraq and yet be resigned to having to clean-up the mess we created?
Uhhh.. That's what I said!

So you admit it's fvcked up but think more soldiers should die anyway? Shades of vietnam.....get the flag out of your ass and wake up.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey I believe the reason for going there was BS but it would be incredibly foolish to withdraw all our forces now. We have to fix our fsck up and leaving those W*** to fend for themselves would be a disaster. If all those terrorists that were created by our invasion were left alone they'd just attack us on our own soil. We created the Monster, now it's up to us to kill it.
Who said we have to withdraw all our forces now? Don't you think it's possible to disagree with our government's actions in Iraq and yet be resigned to having to clean-up the mess we created?
Uhhh.. That's what I said!

So you admit it's fvcked up but think more soldiers should die anyway? Shades of vietnam.....get the flag out of your ass and wake up.

I think Red Dawn is saying the war is "f*cked up", but he goes by the notion.. "We broke it. We bought it."
 

Steeplerot

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Same deal it's a cheap excuse to support the war.
Seriously the "libs" around here are just as bad as the fascist republican nationalists themselves.
Just to chickens1t to come out and say it.
IS there a diffrence? People here seem to be on the same wavelength lib or con yet just bicker about trivial news snippets.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Same deal it's a cheap excuse to support the war.
Seriously the "libs" around here are just as bad as the fascist republican nationalists themselves.
Just to chickens1t to come out and say it.

Trust me, I'm not afraid that this war is bull****, that the administration should be tried for war crimes and the media has been complicit in the lie.
 

Gaard

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Correction. The phrase should be more like, "We broke it. We fix it...to our liking."
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Correction. The phrase should be more like, "We broke it. We fix it...to our liking."

Ain't that the truth. They've already skimmed off the top during the election counting.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Correction. The phrase should be more like, "We broke it. We fix it...to our liking."


Thanks Gard that's what I was trying to say.
DH- I know I am not directing it toward you .
Still I am afraid the right has pretty much absorbed the issues and lay them out to the left for their own agenda.
There is not much diffrence in here between the two when the basis of the issues are from the right's slant...
This place keeps me pretty right-of-center but it is obvious the "libs" are complacent and part of the problem.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hey I believe the reason for going there was BS but it would be incredibly foolish to withdraw all our forces now. We have to fix our fsck up and leaving those W*** to fend for themselves would be a disaster. If all those terrorists that were created by our invasion were left alone they'd just attack us on our own soil. We created the Monster, now it's up to us to kill it.
Who said we have to withdraw all our forces now? Don't you think it's possible to disagree with our government's actions in Iraq and yet be resigned to having to clean-up the mess we created?
Uhhh.. That's what I said!

So you admit it's fvcked up but think more soldiers should die anyway? Shades of vietnam.....get the flag out of your ass and wake up.

Get your head out of your ass and actually read what I said. We fscked up going in there and created a bigger mess than was there before. We need to fix that mess so it doesn't come back and bite us in the ass a hundred times fold. Just pulling the troops would be irresponsible.

If you went to your hair stylist and they dyed your hair blond instead of puke green you'd want them to fix it wouldn't you?

 

Steeplerot

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So, you do not see the obvious that the problem is that we are there in the first place?
What do you expect to clean up? More cities bush is going to bomb out?
The whole scenerio is pretty naive. Just sounds like more of an excuse to consolidate bush's holdings at the expense of our soldiers and the iraqi people.