National parks to be closed if GOP succeeds in shutting down the government :(

[DCal430]

If I remember right republicans want to sell most if not all of the national parks to lumber companies to harvest wood. Sickening that these people are in power.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

If I remember right republicans want to sell most if not all of the national parks to lumber companies to harvest wood. Sickening that these people are in power.

I thought you were all for things that benefit society.

 

[DCal430]

I thought you were all for things that benefit society.

Preserving the earth and the parks benefit society. Giving our precious recourses to these lumber companies does not.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Preserving the earth and the parks benefit society. Giving our precious recourses to these lumber companies does not.

I just performed a google search and the only return that mentions the GOP wanting to sell the national parks to lumber companies in your post in this thread. Where pray tell did you get this information? Fairies? Unicorns?

 

[rudeguy]

If I remember right republicans want to sell most if not all of the national parks to lumber companies to harvest wood. Sickening that these people are in power.

only after Mr. Burns' sun catching machine is completed.


WTF is this guy smoking?

 

[Fear No Evil]

If I remember right republicans want to sell most if not all of the national parks to lumber companies to harvest wood. Sickening that these people are in power.

If I remember correctly Obama and the Democrats want to give up power to this country to Islam and Sharia Law. Sickening that these people are in power.

 

[matt0611]

Preserving the earth and the parks benefit society. Giving our precious recourses to these lumber companies does not.

Parks are great and all but do you realize the federal government owns over 700 million acres of land?

What is wrong with using some land for the purpose of lumber?
Wood doesn't grow on tr... I mean, you gotta get wood from somewhere you know?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Just told a dude at work he might not be able to go Yosemite this weekend. He had no idea about this government shutdown business at all, he was kind of peeved.

So did you ever tell him he could go because the government wasn't shut down?

 

[pcgeek11]

For the tree huggers that are against harvesting a renewable resource ( trees ). Try wiping your ass with plastic.
Then post us up some pics on how that works out for you.

 

[manimal]

For the tree huggers that are against harvesting a renewable resource ( trees ). Try wiping your ass with plastic.
Then post us up some pics on how that works out for you.

enjoy breathing while you can....


Take a look at the rain forests in Brazil. If we lose the remainder of those trees one fifth of the OXYGEN for the planet dissipates....



Teddy Roosevelt is going to break out of his casket and hunt you down....dead president zombie apocalypse!!!

 

[Jiggz]

I'm just very happy that the Senate Democrats or the House DEMS didn't run to Chicago during the negotiations!

 

[theeedude]

So did you ever tell him he could go because the government wasn't shut down?

No, he's probably sitting there all pissed at Republicans that he couldn't go.

 

[werepossum]

For the tree huggers that are against harvesting a renewable resource ( trees ). Try wiping your ass with plastic.
Then post us up some pics on how that works out for you.

Problem is the scale. The only letter to a President I've ever written (and it no doubt put me on a watch list) was to George H. W. Bush when he proposed clear-cutting 1/5 of our national forests over five years. A clear-cut forest takes literally hundreds of years because the trees that grow back are the opportunistic species; a mature forest's floral population recovers extremely slowly as old growth species slowly replace first growth species. Therefore a mature forest's fauna takes a similarly long time to recover, and some of our species being highly stressed and fragmented to begin with, many species would never recovery from such an event. This is doubly true with amphibians and obligate small stream dwelling fish, many of which already consist of small, fragile, fragmented populations. The siltation and loss of fragile, productive top soil and habitat would be catastrophic.

I've no problem with the occasional managed food plot clear cutting - mature forests are extremely limited food sources - but in general lumbering needs to be done on private land. That goes double for clear-cutting lumbering.

 

[DCal430]

I just performed a google search and the only return that mentions the GOP wanting to sell the national parks to lumber companies in your post in this thread. Where pray tell did you get this information? Fairies? Unicorns?

I don't remember where I heard this, I just remember. I am sure it is true though.

 

[DCal430]

Parks are great and all but do you realize the federal government owns over 700 million acres of land?

What is wrong with using some land for the purpose of lumber?
Wood doesn't grow on tr... I mean, you gotta get wood from somewhere you know?

I not talking about some forest run by the USDA, but parks like Yellowstone being sold off to lumber companies.

I would still be against selling any land to lumber companies though.

 

[charrison]

I not talking about some forest run by the USDA, but parks like Yellowstone being sold off to lumber companies.

I would still be against selling any land to lumber companies though.

So let me ask you this? Would you be against leasing land to lumber companies to undue decades of federal mismanagement(always putting out forest fires even when they dont need to be) of forests which turns them into tinderboxes?

 

[Genx87]

Parks are great and all but do you realize the federal government owns over 700 million acres of land?

What is wrong with using some land for the purpose of lumber?
Wood doesn't grow on tr... I mean, you gotta get wood from somewhere you know?

The left is content on getting wood from slower growing forests in Siberia. All about mother earth, right?

 

[Matt1970]

I don't remember where I heard this, I just remember. I am sure it is true though.

So you have no proof to back up your statment, but you are sure it is true.

 

[Matt915]

I have never heard that Dcal. In fact, weren't most national parks actually set up by Republicans? Think Teddy R.

I enjoy parks, and nature, I hope none of it gets sold or used for non sustainable lumber.

 

[her209]

I have never heard that Dcal. In fact, weren't most national parks actually set up by Republicans? Think Teddy R.

I enjoy parks, and nature, I hope none of it gets sold or used for non sustainable lumber.

Teddy R would be considered a leftist by today's standards.

 

[theeedude]

The left is content on getting wood from slower growing forests in Siberia. All about mother earth, right?

Why do you hate America? If we can use overseas forests and preserve ours, sounds like a slam dunk.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Why do you hate America? If we can use overseas forests and preserve ours, sounds like a slam dunk.

Wow, I thought the left was all about preserving nature. How do you know that taking these slower growing trees in Siberia won't have a larger impact on the US (via weather changes) than taking faster growing soft woods in the US would?

 

[pcgeek11]

Problem is the scale. The only letter to a President I've ever written (and it no doubt put me on a watch list) was to George H. W. Bush when he proposed clear-cutting 1/5 of our national forests over five years. A clear-cut forest takes literally hundreds of years because the trees that grow back are the opportunistic species; a mature forest's floral population recovers extremely slowly as old growth species slowly replace first growth species. Therefore a mature forest's fauna takes a similarly long time to recover, and some of our species being highly stressed and fragmented to begin with, many species would never recovery from such an event. This is doubly true with amphibians and obligate small stream dwelling fish, many of which already consist of small, fragile, fragmented populations. The siltation and loss of fragile, productive top soil and habitat would be catastrophic.

I've no problem with the occasional managed food plot clear cutting - mature forests are extremely limited food sources - but in general lumbering needs to be done on private land. That goes double for clear-cutting lumbering.

There is nothing wrong with Harvesting trees. Notice I didn't say anything about clearcutting or raping the forest. A well managed cutting and replanting.

 

[werepossum]

There is nothing wrong with Harvesting trees. Notice I didn't say anything about clearcutting or raping the forest. A well managed cutting and replanting.

I have nothing against harvesting trees, in fact I'm all for it. I just think it should be done on private land. Let the market allocate land for commercial forestry and the national forests and parks be old growth, that way we have the best of all possible worlds.