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Nashville police officer charged with criminal homicide after shooting black man in the back
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Paladin3
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The cop flat out shot that guy in the back as he was running away. Even if the suspect had a gun in his hand, he was clearly running flat out and not in any way pointing, aiming or attempting to shoot at the officer. The officer's safety was not in danger, so fuck him and good luck in prison for taking a life without cause. Criminal homicide charges totally appropriate.
Would the cop have held his fire if the fleeing suspect was white? That I don't know.
Would the cop have held his fire if the fleeing suspect was white? That I don't know.
Sunburn74
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I hope this cop gets to meet plenty of nice gentlemen in maximum security prison showers.
Viper1j
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I didn't edit anything, look at the post and see if I did. Viper f****ed up his post and made it look like a quote from me.
purbeast0
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Holy shit wow that is really bad. That is straight up murder wtf...
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In that video though, WTF is that lady talking about saying that "if there is ever a case of premeditated murder this is it - the officer took his time, aimed, and shot him." I mean yeah, that is how you typically shoot someone by aiming at them. I thought premeditated is when you plan something beforehand, like hours or days beforehand.
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In that video though, WTF is that lady talking about saying that "if there is ever a case of premeditated murder this is it - the officer took his time, aimed, and shot him." I mean yeah, that is how you typically shoot someone by aiming at them. I thought premeditated is when you plan something beforehand, like hours or days beforehand.
Jaskalas
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How are you supposed to chase a guy that is HOLDING a gun?
Second he stops he might just turn around and make it your last in the blink of an eye.
There's a very good chance he could fire first.
By running he has already stated his intention not to be arrested. How can you assume he wouldn't back that up with the gun... in his hand? He was brandishing the gun, right?
Second he stops he might just turn around and make it your last in the blink of an eye.
There's a very good chance he could fire first.
By running he has already stated his intention not to be arrested. How can you assume he wouldn't back that up with the gun... in his hand? He was brandishing the gun, right?
MomentsofSanity
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None of that is really relevent. A lot of things COULD have happened. None of those things were happening. The guy was running. He was still running when he was shot in the back. The officer had time to stop, take a shooting stance and aim down the suspect for several seconds. He was not stopped. He was not turned pointing the firearm. He wasn't running pointing the firearm. While he posed a threat as an armed individual he was not an imminent threat to the officer at the time he shot.
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So many parts of this story are fucked up in the extreme, you really should better inform yourself of the details of this incident. Here are some. Read them, please.
"The affidavit signed Thursday offered new details about the alleged sequence of events on the day of the shooting. It said that Officer Delke was patrolling in North Nashville when he became suspicious about the Chevrolet Impala, apparently because it had stopped at a stop sign and conceded the right of way to him. He began to follow the Impala, and even after running the license plate and learning that it was not stolen, he “continued to follow to see if he could develop a reason to stop the Impala,” the affidavit said."
^^^ What . . . the . . . f*ck?
"Still, Officer Delke kept looking for the Impala and eventually pulled into an apartment parking lot where he mistook another white sedan for the Impala, the affidavit said. He pulled up next to the sedan and stopped, and Mr. Hambrick took off running, the affidavit said. Officer Delke ran after him, the affidavit added, noting that Officer Delke did not know the man’s identity and “did not know with certainty” if the man had been inside either the Impala or the white sedan."
^^^ Careless and unprofessional. A simple check of the DIFFERENT license plate would have sufficed.
"The spokesman, Steve Hayslip, said that a court commissioner had refused to sign the criminal homicide affidavit when prosecutors first presented it on Thursday morning. Prosecutors then took it to a judge, who signed it."
^^^ Is it even legal for a court commissioner to refuse to sign an affidavit?
"A coalition that included the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People also proposed the creation of a civilian board, which would investigate allegations of police misconduct; the proposal will be voted on in November despite efforts by the police to kill the measure."
Yes, yes, the police are trying to kill this measure . . . because who would possibly want some outside oversight of their actions?
This PUNK with a badge and gun ended executed an innocent man because of his entirely unprofessional actions. I don't know if he should be convicted of murder, but he definitely should be fired and prevented from ever being allowed to own a firearm again. He has shown, by his actions, that he is mentally unsuited.
Pipeline 1010
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I think YOU are the one who needs to be better informed, flat-Earther. The world is ROUND. This guy wasn't running AWAY from the cop. He was running directly toward the cop. In 24,901 more miles, he would show up and likely shoot that cop from behind.
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Viper1j
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Sorry about that. I didn't realize I was editing out a "leading question"..
No I'm not surprised, I'm not anymore surprises and I would be, if the sun rose in the morning. It's just another occurrence, in a long line of occurrences, that's getting to the point where it's too long to measure.
No not every cop thinks his badge as a license to kill, but those people are the minority not the majority, and since they never do anything about it, or say anything to stop it, the silent majority is ceding assent to the gun happy majority.
Pipeline 1010
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Exactly. Cops actually do a lot about bad cops. They intimidate the accuser of the bad cops, they refuse back-up to good cops who accuse bad cops, they place dead rats on the hood of the good cops' cars, and they do everything they can to protect the bad cop and get rid of the bad cop's accusers.
It's like deep down, the average cop realizes that if the bad cop can go down for being bad, then so can the average cop. So in a way, they really are protecting their own selves by protecting the bad cop.
Your innuendo & accusations have nothing to do with the incident at hand. Zero.
Pipeline 1010
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Show me where they were anything but off topic innuendo & accusation. Shooting the guy in the back was wrong. Other cops can't give him any cover even if they wanted.
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Viper1j
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You're beyond dense-
https://www.ranker.com/list/ex-cops-in-prison/ranker-crime
That list doesn't even begin to be inclusive.
It is the damn truth. I could link dozens of stories about good cops ratting out bad cops who had their lives endangered, outright threatened, faced severe harassment from colleagues, transferred to the worst shifts, careers destroyed or a combination. I'm sure I forgot a lot of things and the vast majority of that is just from the cops that decided to sue. The rest of them just moved on to other careers or put up with the abuse and kept their mouths shut. Not like anyone, especially in years past, thought they could get their woe story printed in any kind of press. If they still lived in the same town it would have just drawn even more attention to them anyway.
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Yup. Deadly force is authorized for a fleeing felon to prevent escape and the officer has probable cause in the case that the subject is an imminent threat to the officers or others (TN v. Garner). In this case, I don’t believe there is even a felony that can be articulated.
While IL v. Wardlow states that police have reasonable suspicion to stop someone that just flees from the police, which could be articulated here, that doesn’t mean it arises to the level required by TN v. Garner.
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