God has a hard on for Marines, because we kill everything we see. He plays His games, we play ours. To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls. God was here before the marine corps, so you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the corps! -- Gunnery Sergeant Hartman, Drill Instructor
Originally posted by: Mill
I'm with crab and Amused on this one. It was an obvious typo and not a true misspelling.
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
Wow... you guys really should see some vids from Nam.
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
If you want to see disturbing watch "The Killing Fields" about Polpot.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
If you want to see disturbing watch "The Killing Fields" about Polpot.
A mass murder that would NOT have happened had the liberal US politicians not insisted we stop supporting the Cambodian government after the US pull-out from Vietnam in 1975. As soon as all funding was stopped, the Khmrir Rouge overthrew the Cambodian government and promptly slaughtered 2 million people. (A vast number for such a small country)
Another fine example of the politics of appeasement and the liberal refusal to believe that communism is inherently evil.
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
If you want to see disturbing watch "The Killing Fields" about Polpot.
A mass murder that would NOT have happened had the liberal US politicians not insisted we stop supporting the Cambodian government after the US pull-out from Vietnam in 1975. As soon as all funding was stopped, the Khmrir Rouge overthrew the Cambodian government and promptly slaughtered 2 million people. (A vast number for such a small country)
Another fine example of the politics of appeasement and the liberal refusal to believe that communism is inherently evil.
Funny how everything can be made to be the fault of the US. The Khmer Rouge themselves bear the responsibility for the deaths of those millions in Cambodia, not the US.
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
If you want to see disturbing watch "The Killing Fields" about Polpot.
A mass murder that would NOT have happened had the liberal US politicians not insisted we stop supporting the Cambodian government after the US pull-out from Vietnam in 1975. As soon as all funding was stopped, the Khmrir Rouge overthrew the Cambodian government and promptly slaughtered 2 million people. (A vast number for such a small country)
Another fine example of the politics of appeasement and the liberal refusal to believe that communism is inherently evil.
Funny how everything can be made to be the fault of the US. The Khmer Rouge themselves bear the responsibility for the deaths of those millions in Cambodia, not the US.
Originally posted by: zimu
Originally posted by: crab
Do you think that Iraqui would've given you any less? Hell no. Fvck him.
have to be american, since you
a) are obviously so narrow minded and have a really one dimensional viewpoint
b) can't spell iraqi.
Originally posted by: Amused
An injured but still armed Iraqi who had just attacked them. What did you want them to do? Walk up to him and disarm him???
Nice video editing on the hacker's end to make our soldiers look like murderers, but anyone with half a brain can see what's going on.
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
They aren't telling the whole story here, of course it sucks that someone was killed... but hopefully in the future our government can arm soldiers with some type of immobolization weapon... maybe that guy could have had info on Saddam Hussein, who knows?
Originally posted by: godspeedx
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
They aren't telling the whole story here, of course it sucks that someone was killed... but hopefully in the future our government can arm soldiers with some type of immobolization weapon... maybe that guy could have had info on Saddam Hussein, who knows?
Originally posted by: Amused
An injured but still armed Iraqi who had just attacked them. What did you want them to do? Walk up to him and disarm him???
Nice video editing on the hacker's end to make our soldiers look like murderers, but anyone with half a brain can see what's going on.
Originally posted by: MindStorm
Originally posted by: Amused
An injured but still armed Iraqi who had just attacked them. What did you want them to do? Walk up to him and disarm him???
Nice video editing on the hacker's end to make our soldiers look like murderers, but anyone with half a brain can see what's going on.
No, anyone with half a brain won't be blinded by patriotism that they will ignore any horrendous actions their country have committed. I remember a lengthy thread criticizing the Japanese for not admitting any fault on its quest for imperialism (they were wickedly cruel, that's why the Chinese and Korean are still very bitter), you remind me of the Japanese.
Originally posted by: MindStorm
I didn't find the killing disturbing. I found the high these marines get after killing that's disturbing. These are what, 20 year olds? Still very much kids in many aspect. It's one thing to be proud to go to war for your country, it's quite another to say on TV that killing is fun and it's something they want to do again. That's sick.
have to be american, since you
a) are obviously so narrow minded and have a really one dimensional viewpoint
Originally posted by: fisher
Originally posted by: MindStorm
Originally posted by: Amused
An injured but still armed Iraqi who had just attacked them. What did you want them to do? Walk up to him and disarm him???
Nice video editing on the hacker's end to make our soldiers look like murderers, but anyone with half a brain can see what's going on.
No, anyone with half a brain won't be blinded by patriotism that they will ignore any horrendous actions their country have committed. I remember a lengthy thread criticizing the Japanese for not admitting any fault on its quest for imperialism (they were wickedly cruel, that's why the Chinese and Korean are still very bitter), you remind me of the Japanese.
how can you compare killing a dude who had just attempted to kill you with being wickedly cruel (which would probably include things like torture and the slaughter of women and children)?
Originally posted by: godspeedx
Originally posted by: MindStorm
I didn't find the killing disturbing. I found the high these marines get after killing that's disturbing. These are what, 20 year olds? Still very much kids in many aspect. It's one thing to be proud to go to war for your country, it's quite another to say on TV that killing is fun and it's something they want to do again. That's sick.
He obviously wasn't referring to killing the guy when he said he wants to do it agian.
have to be american, since you
a) are obviously so narrow minded and have a really one dimensional viewpoint
Capitalize American, please.
Originally posted by: crab
Do you think that Iraqui would've given you any less? Hell no. Fvck him.
Originally posted by: Rogue
Originally posted by: godspeedx
Originally posted by: MindStorm
I didn't find the killing disturbing. I found the high these marines get after killing that's disturbing. These are what, 20 year olds? Still very much kids in many aspect. It's one thing to be proud to go to war for your country, it's quite another to say on TV that killing is fun and it's something they want to do again. That's sick.
He obviously wasn't referring to killing the guy when he said he wants to do it agian.
have to be american, since you
a) are obviously so narrow minded and have a really one dimensional viewpoint
Capitalize American, please.
Stress and adrenaline make you do very unhuman things sometime, especially in combat. The Marine that pulled the trigger will most likely live the rest of his life with some degree of guilt or question as to whether or not he had to do what he did.
My brother fought some dirty battles over there, clearing out several areas overrun by Saddam's Fedayeen (sp?). He said that if they were clearning a building or moving down a street and saw a man with a cell phone to his ear, he was shot dead immediately, no questions asked. Now, we can sit here all night discussing the horror of it or question whether or not this guy was simply calling in a pizza order, but war is war. It's just like the Geneva convention says you can't engage foot soldiers with HE 25mm rounds from a Bradley. Well, you can shoot enemy equipment with it under the GC. So guess what? His canteen is equipment, right? So are his boots, his backpack and most importantly, his weapon. The law of war is very specific and very fluid at the same time. I saw nothing wrong with this video, other than the editing. If this guy was making bombs, who's to say he's not strapped up himself? Or has that building wired up? Or there's other enemy combatants around the corner just waiting for a medic to come out and try to save him.
And how dare any of you, having never been put in this situation condemn or question his ability to shoot or judge his comments afterward. He just killed another human, enemy or not, that is a complete violation of humanity. War is not a natural thing for humans, never will be. Combat related stress and it's effects are taught heavily the higher up the ranks you go. This situation was obviously a combination of combat stress and the "pack mentality," both common in battlefield environments. Emotions run high, people react "inhuman" to things that are not natural to them. I've seen people in immense pain laugh or smile. So go on playing your Medal of Honor or Call of Duty and when you wound the enemy in the game, go right on ahead and let them live. Remember, it's a game so if this wounded enemy shoots you even once as you approach him, remember, you're dead in real life.