NAS objections...

[leegroves86]

In my wide search for a NAS i came across this at newegg. Its has not been reviewed so I am asking you all. Speed is not important in my nas. Its just backing up photos and mp3s, it will barely be used probably.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817145372R

This NAS enclosure seems to have it all:

1. Bring your own Hard drive
-upgradeable unlike others

2. Fat32
-instead of some proprietary crap. I can take HDD out and hook up to any pc.

3. Good up to 500 GB hdd
-not limited to the normal 250 or such.

This seems to be what I've been looking for. Before i click the buy button from newegg, can someone give some constructive criticism? What are the downsides to it?

All the negatives I see are such:

1) Its FAT32 and not NFTS
-not such a big deal since i of course wont be booting off it or anything

2) Newegg only carrys it in "open box" OEM
-this is of course not bytecs fault, i could buy the retail version from a different company

I was going to stick this HDD in it. Does the HDD need to be ata 100 or 133. Bytecc specifies ULTRA DMA....???
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144309

 

[n0cmonkey]

FAT32 needs to die a fiery death. I wouldn't trust any real data to it.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
FAT32 needs to die a fiery death. I wouldn't trust any real data to it.

RLY? Well at least it works on more than one operating system. I don't format my data drives NTFS anymore, as I've have too many problems beiing unable to read them when windows dies. At least with FAT I can boot knoppix or shove the drive in my server and get access to the files.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
FAT32 needs to die a fiery death. I wouldn't trust any real data to it.

RLY? Well at least it works on more than one operating system. I don't format my data drives NTFS anymore, as I've have too many problems beiing unable to read them when windows dies. At least with FAT I can boot knoppix or shove the drive in my server and get access to the files.

I like security permissions, efs, and better system protection when the system does crash (journaling). Windows doesn't just die on me, maybe I'm doing something wrong. If it did and was beyond repair, I reinstall and restore data from backups.

The fact that Windows cannot read other FSes isn't an issue for me, I don't waste time dual booting.

To each their own, but with the release of several worth while filesystems, I don't see a point in using one that is stupid, brittle, and insecure.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
FAT32 needs to die a fiery death. I wouldn't trust any real data to it.

RLY? Well at least it works on more than one operating system. I don't format my data drives NTFS anymore, as I've have too many problems beiing unable to read them when windows dies. At least with FAT I can boot knoppix or shove the drive in my server and get access to the files.

I like security permissions, efs, and better system protection when the system does crash (journaling). Windows doesn't just die on me, maybe I'm doing something wrong. If it did and was beyond repair, I reinstall and restore data from backups.

I know what you mean, I use reiserFS on my server's main drive, but the data drives are just full of mp3s and such so I'm not too worried.

The fact that Windows cannot read other FSes isn't an issue for me, I don't waste time dual booting.

Neither do I, I run other OSs on other boxes.

I don't really expect windows to read other file systems, it's completely up to them if they want to give people more reasons to use another OS, but I would like them to release the spec for NTFS so that others can read/write that.

E.g. - someone comes to me with a messed up windows box and says "please! can you get my essay/report/whatever for me?". If it's FAT, I can boot DOS or Linux or anything you like and stick the files on a CD or a USB stick. If it's NTFS I can't do that.

 

[spikespiegal]

If it's not NTFS it's more likely to get corrupted in the first place.

 

[JackMDS]

General Philosophical concern of computer?s technology and the needs of Cooperate and ?Super Power Users? have very little place in advising an individual user.

Millions of people use FAT32 and it serves them very well.

So, concerning this device, the price is good and the spec. seems to be adequate for home use.

However depending on your individual specific needs Entry Level NAS units might surprise you (good, or bad) so make sure that it is returnable (open box might Not be returnable check it out).

:sun:

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Atheus
E.g. - someone comes to me with a messed up windows box and says "please! can you get my essay/report/whatever for me?". If it's FAT, I can boot DOS or Linux or anything you like and stick the files on a CD or a USB stick. If it's NTFS I can't do that.

Most major OSes can read NTFS these days.

 

[Atheus]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: Atheus
E.g. - someone comes to me with a messed up windows box and says "please! can you get my essay/report/whatever for me?". If it's FAT, I can boot DOS or Linux or anything you like and stick the files on a CD or a USB stick. If it's NTFS I can't do that.

Most major OSes can read NTFS these days.

Some can read, few can write, and most have varying degrees of bugginess in both operations.

This works well, and the guy who wrote it is highly skilled, but it's a complete hack. It uses Wine to run ntoskrnl.exe and ntfs.sys, adds in parts of ReactOS, plus some custom userspace code, plus a kernel module... not exacly a clean and simple solution.

Of course, using FAT32 is not a good solution either. Wouldn't it be nice if we could use the same good journaling FS on all our boxes?

 

[Nothinman]

2. Fat32
-instead of some proprietary crap. I can take HDD out and hook up to any pc.

And now you can't put any files >4G (or is it 2G?) on the thing, no DVD ISOs for you.

3. Good up to 500 GB hdd
-not limited to the normal 250 or such.

If it's upgradable why would there be any limitation at all as long as it physically fits? LBA48 got rid of the 137G limitation, any others would be imposed by the manufacturer to make you buy more expensive models.

At least with FAT I can boot knoppix or shove the drive in my server and get access to the files.

Knoppix reads NTFS just fine, sometimes even when Windows won't. And if you really want you can make a BartPE disc for rescuing data from NTFS filesystems.

I know what you mean, I use reiserFS on my server's main drive, but the data drives are just full of mp3s and such so I'm not too worried.

I would be more worried about Reiserfs dying on me than NTFS...

Millions of people use FAT32 and it serves them very well.

Millions of people eat McDonald's food for lunch too, does that mean it's a good idea?

Wouldn't it be nice if we could use the same good journaling FS on all our boxes?

I do.

 

[Atheus]

Wouldn't it be nice if we could use the same good journaling FS on all our boxes?

I do.

Are all your boxes windows?

 

[Nothinman]

Are all your boxes windows?

No, they're all Linux.