Narcotics basically legal in Canada

[VTboy]

In Canada, narcotics are legal to use. No one ever goes to jail in Canada for drug use. I remember seeing a documentary, teens were shooting heroin right in front of a police station, and the police just ignored them. I suspect that and a year or two prescription narcotics will be OTC. I can see teens by fantanyl lollypops in a year or two OTC. .

 

[beer]

damn, when can I move???

 

[Nebor]

Oh my gosh, unpoliced crime that drives further violent crime and burglaries?!!?! In a country where you aren't allowed to defend yourself, and aren't allowed to have guns to do so with?!?! And where the hobo heroin addict that you hit with a baseball bat gets free health care from the government, while you get a free prison cell from the government??!?!?!

When can I move?

 

[VTboy]

I should clearify. Canada does have drug laws but they never enforce them. You could go to a police station like I saw in the documentary and do hard core drugs and they wouldn't do s h i t.

 

[Mill]

Simply not true. While they have decriminalized Marijuana to a certain extent they still raid growers in BC, and the RCMP and DEA do joint border interdiction. Not only that, but the RCMP has been working harder as of late with other international agencies to stop the flow of drugs into Canada because their relaxed immigration policies make them a large target of drug transshipment. A major component of pressure is the US, because Canada has become a nice and friendly smuggling point compared to more hardened US ports and Airports. Not to mention than Canada is a MASSIVE source for pseudoephedrine and ephedra based products that are used to make meth. With the FDA banning of those products look for even more major busts along the border. I don't believe Canada has banned it yet has it? Probably won't either. Ephedra was harmless to begin with if used correctly.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Oh my gosh, unpoliced crime that drives further violent crime and burglaries?!!?! In a country where you aren't allowed to defend yourself, and aren't allowed to have guns to do so with?!?! And where the hobo heroin addict that you hit with a baseball bat gets free health care from the government, while you get a free prison cell from the government??!?!?!

When can I move?

You can have guns in Canada. Canada isn't really all that different than the US, but they tend to be more socially progressive than the US at the expense of their national defense and budget. The US has been showing them how to spend though as of late...

 

[VTboy]

Mill I saw the documentary. It was in vancover. Teens where shooting heroin with a needle in front of the police station, and when the police walk out they just ignored them. They also said no one has gone to jail in canada for narcotic usage. I can really see it now. In 2006 children will be able to get high off of fantanyl lollypops in canada.

 

[Nebor]

You have to register your guns in Canada, and I believe they banned all semiautomatic rifles, no? For certain, no one is allowed to have fully automatic weapons there, even with permits.

Anyways, you can bet that with the registration of Canada's guns complete, confiscation doesn't lie far away.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: VTboy
Mill I saw the documentary. It was in vancover. Teens where shooting heroin with a needle in front of the police station, and when the police walk out they just ignored them. They also said no one has gone to jail in canada for narcotic usage. I can really see it now. In 2006 children will be able to get high off of fantanyl lollypops in canada.

Name of Documentary please, and yes people get arrested in Canada quite frequently for using narcotics. Vancouver is a bit more liberal than most with needle exchanges and a sort of a blind eye toward simple possession, but that is only in the case of something like a government run needle injection site. You are way overblowing what you saw.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor
You have to register your guns in Canada, and I believe they banned all semiautomatic rifles, no? For certain, no one is allowed to have fully automatic weapons there, even with permits.

Anyways, you can bet that with the registration of Canada's guns complete, confiscation doesn't lie far away.

You have to register you guns in the US too, and a Class 3 license isn't cheap now is it?

 

[VTboy]

I saw it last year on TV. It just remembered it now for some reason so I decided to make this topic. I remember very clearly what I saw. Teens using heroin in front of the police and the police just ignoring them. Sorry I don't remember the name of the documentary.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor
You have to register your guns in Canada, and I believe they banned all semiautomatic rifles, no? For certain, no one is allowed to have fully automatic weapons there, even with permits.

Anyways, you can bet that with the registration of Canada's guns complete, confiscation doesn't lie far away.

You have to register you guns in the US too, and a Class 3 license isn't cheap now is it?

Sorry, we don't register guns in my America. Maybe you do things different in Alabama, but here in Texas, there's no such thing as firearms registration. A database of gun owners can only be used against those gun owners, it can do no good.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: VTboy
I saw it last year on TV. It just remembered it now for some reason so I decided to make this topic. I remember very clearly what I saw. Teens using heroin in front of the police and the police just ignoring them. Sorry I don't remember the name of the documentary.

Read this. Like I said... the police are not ignoring them.

They just won't arrest them down there because it is killing the courts. The police see them and want to arrest them, but have been told not to unless they commit another crime. Since drug usage goes hand in hand with other crimes such as theft... well there you go. People are arrested in Vancouver for narcotics regularly. They only allow simple possession because they go after the supply side.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor
You have to register your guns in Canada, and I believe they banned all semiautomatic rifles, no? For certain, no one is allowed to have fully automatic weapons there, even with permits.

Anyways, you can bet that with the registration of Canada's guns complete, confiscation doesn't lie far away.

You have to register you guns in the US too, and a Class 3 license isn't cheap now is it?

Sorry, we don't register guns in my America. Maybe you do things different in Alabama, but here in Texas, there's no such thing as firearms registration. A database of gun owners can only be used against those gun owners, it can do no good.

The US is not solely made up of Texas my friend. Guns are registered in the US. Why play semantics over it? Most states require registration, and what states don't require a license to carry concealed or otherwise?

 

[Nebor]

There are two million people imprisoned in the United States for drug charges... Not nearly enough. I'm a firm believer that every single one of them should be locked up for a while, to show them where drugs get them. Dealers should just be executed as the murderers they are though...

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor
You have to register your guns in Canada, and I believe they banned all semiautomatic rifles, no? For certain, no one is allowed to have fully automatic weapons there, even with permits.

Anyways, you can bet that with the registration of Canada's guns complete, confiscation doesn't lie far away.

You have to register you guns in the US too, and a Class 3 license isn't cheap now is it?

Sorry, we don't register guns in my America. Maybe you do things different in Alabama, but here in Texas, there's no such thing as firearms registration. A database of gun owners can only be used against those gun owners, it can do no good.

The US is not solely made up of Texas my friend. Guns are registered in the US. Why play semantics over it? Most states require registration, and what states don't require a license to carry concealed or otherwise?

Vermont requires no licensing whatsoever to carry a concealed weapon, it's considered a right there.

And there's a good reason that so many people are proud to be Texans, it's a great place to live. The only other state I'd consider would be Alaska.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor
You have to register your guns in Canada, and I believe they banned all semiautomatic rifles, no? For certain, no one is allowed to have fully automatic weapons there, even with permits.

Anyways, you can bet that with the registration of Canada's guns complete, confiscation doesn't lie far away.

You have to register you guns in the US too, and a Class 3 license isn't cheap now is it?

Sorry, we don't register guns in my America. Maybe you do things different in Alabama, but here in Texas, there's no such thing as firearms registration. A database of gun owners can only be used against those gun owners, it can do no good.

The US is not solely made up of Texas my friend. Guns are registered in the US. Why play semantics over it? Most states require registration, and what states don't require a license to carry concealed or otherwise?

Vermont requires no licensing whatsoever to carry a concealed weapon, it's considered a right there.

And there's a good reason that so many people are proud to be Texans, it's a great place to live. The only other state I'd consider would be Alaska.

Who gives a sh!t what Vermont or Texas does? The argument was that Canada requires you to register guns and the US does not. This is false because some states in the US do require gun registration if not a vast majority of them.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor
There are two million people imprisoned in the United States for drug charges... Not nearly enough. I'm a firm believer that every single one of them should be locked up for a while, to show them where drugs get them. Dealers should just be executed as the murderers they are though...

It's funny that you say that coming from the guy that admits to speeding around like an ass in his Lightning. How are drug dealers murderers(minus the ones that actually kill someone with violence)?. They sell something that people CHOSE to partake in. Sure dealers are scum when it comes to hard drugs, but you honestly think execution would do anything? It would create widespread revolt and the vast majority of the US would disagree with you. Maybe Alaska would be good for you, no? It is always funny to hear the Puritans scream loudest about what they would do to person X, but they knowingly break the law(speeding) yet think they behavior is not hypocritical. Is that you Rush?

 

[Nebor]

I was merely answering your questions, but apparently you're a little grouchy... Maybe you should get some sleep?

 

[VTboy]

Miller you know in Asia they execute drug dealers. The US and canada should adopt many of the asian nation stance on drugs. In Tiawan for example drug dealers are sentenced to death. And if you are caught 3 times for using a drug the pentalty is life or death.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: VTboy
Miller you know in Asia they execute drug dealers. The US and canada should adopt many of the asian nation stance on drugs. In Tiawan for example drug dealers are sentenced to death. And if you are caught 3 times for using a drug the pentalty is life or death.

Why should the US do this?

 

[VTboy]

It seems to work good for Asia. I doubt Tiawan has much drug users with its hard stance on drugs. Hell Opium seeds are illegal in Tiawan.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Nebor
There are two million people imprisoned in the United States for drug charges... Not nearly enough. I'm a firm believer that every single one of them should be locked up for a while, to show them where drugs get them. Dealers should just be executed as the murderers they are though...

It's funny that you say that coming from the guy that admits to speeding around like an ass in his Lightning. How are drug dealers murderers(minus the ones that actually kill someone with violence)?. They sell something that people CHOSE to partake in. Sure dealers are scum when it comes to hard drugs, but you honestly think execution would do anything? It would create widespread revolt and the vast majority of the US would disagree with you. Maybe Alaska would be good for you, no? It is always funny to hear the Puritans scream loudest about what they would do to person X, but they knowingly break the law(speeding) yet think they behavior is not hypocritical. Is that you Rush?

I really don't speed much at all, the only time I'm way over the limit is if I'm racing.... So it should really be "racing around like an ass."

Drugs aren't a choice, they're an addiction. Do you really think people WANT to die who take those drugs? They want to look pale and sallow and thin?

Many countries execute drug dealers. Maybe execution is extreme, but they should hand out a lot more life sentences.

Yeah, sure, I break the law, but I would feel really bad if someone got hurt as a result of my actions. A drug dealer doesn't have that kind of remorse, they're out their to make money off of sucking the life out of people.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Nebor
I was merely answering your questions, but apparently you're a little grouchy... Maybe you should get some sleep?

Honestly I am not grouchy, but I find it hard to believe you don't find your own behavior hypocritical. Why would a user of marijuana bother you? Our war on drugs is completely backwards. You EDUCATE users and take down the supply networks. We are trying to arrest the users and piss at the supply networks. A war on drugs is silly at any rate. There is no commodity too precious that isn't smuggled around and sold. People will pay whatever they have to pay to continue using. You don't break addiction with punishment only. You have to educate and end silly laws that cause more harm than good. What about the disparity in sentencing regarding rock and soft cocaine? It takes 400% more powder to get the sentence that x number of rocks gets you. You don't think some drug laws have racial or class biases? Not saying they were created solely to attack a race or class, but who uses rock cocaine? Lower class or minorities. Who uses powder? Richer people and those who tend to be white. Sure there are exceptions, but it is utter bullsh!t to act as if the war on drugs isn't flawed.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: VTboy
It seems to work good for Asia. I doubt Tiawan has much drug users with its hard stance on drugs. Hell Opium seeds are illegal in Tiawan.

Is Tiawan a country like ours? No. Does Tiawan believe in Civil Liberties? No. Again, how will doing what Taiwan does help America? You don't stop addicts by arresting or jailing them. People are successful at maintaing their addictions in prison at all times. You don't think prisons have drugs?