Nancy Pelosi vs. John Dennis

Anarchist420

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She's refused to debate John Dennis, just so she can have a greater chance to win again.

John Dennis would beat her ass if she'd just debate him.

Hopefully, he'll defeat her anyway. If I weren't an anarchist and if I did live in the right district, I would probably vote against her just for refusing to debate him.
 

ElFenix

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he should run an ad with a debate setting featuring a cardboard cutout of pelosi at the other podium
 

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Hopefully, he'll defeat her anyway. If I weren't an anarchist and if I did live in the right district, I would probably vote against her just for refusing to debate him.
Anarchists participate in democratic elections?
 

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Lets see if I can get my arms around the ideas of the above two posters who almost certainly do not live or vote in Nancy Pelosi's district.

Its going to be the voters in her district who determine if she is re elected or not, and not you or I. Sometime the incumbent politician just does not want to give an opponent a free soap box. And not being knowledgeable about Dennis campaign tactics, I don't know if he is a typical slime throwing tea bagger or not, but if he is, I could better understand the Pelosi position.
 

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Lets see if I can get my arms around the ideas of the above two posters who almost certainly do not live or vote in Nancy Pelosi's district.

Its going to be the voters in her district who determine if she is re elected or not, and not you or I. Sometime the incumbent politician just does not want to give an opponent a free soap box. And not being knowledgeable about Dennis campaign tactics, I don't know if he is a typical slime throwing tea bagger or not, but if he is, I could better understand the Pelosi position.
scoring more points will help you win
 

bfdd

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Lets see if I can get my arms around the ideas of the above two posters who almost certainly do not live or vote in Nancy Pelosi's district.

Its going to be the voters in her district who determine if she is re elected or not, and not you or I. Sometime the incumbent politician just does not want to give an opponent a free soap box. And not being knowledgeable about Dennis campaign tactics, I don't know if he is a typical slime throwing tea bagger or not, but if he is, I could better understand the Pelosi position.

So because he might be something you don't like it's ok to ignore him? How the fuck do you go through life?

If this guy is a legit candidate running against her, she should have given the debate, but the less people in Pelosi's district know about Pelosi the better for her. BTW I like the campaign ad idea suggested he do a mock debate with a cardboard cut out. That shit would be HILARIOUS and a huge smack in the face to Pelosi.
 

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Well, here is a newspaper sketch of Dennis.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/10/us/politics/10dennis.html

He seems to have Libertarian and conservative GOP credentials, wants to eliminate 3 Federal departments, but so far does not seem to fit the picture of slime drooling tea bagger. He has the guts to walk into a gay bar and admit he is a Republican, and seems to be an all right guy to talk rationally with.

But in a city with 9% GOP registration, he probably does not stand a snowflakes chance in hell.

But the GOP has to field some sacrificial goat, but Boehner won't invest a dime in him. He still has raised lots of cash, but in all comes from outside the district.
 

umbrella39

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Well in Michigan our wonderful candidates running for governor only debated one time during Sunday night football and was run like a candidate in a bubble show. Why even bother...
 
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ElFenix

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Could be a John Madden quote.

that's the guy they were parodying

<announcer>"you give us in depth analysis like 'scoring more points will help you win'"</announcer>
<singer>"i did not know that!"</singer>
 

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If you read my previous post, I did not say, "So because he might be something you don't like it's ok to ignore him? How the fuck do you go through life?"

And instead said I did not know why Pelosi took the no debate position at the time of posting, but since all his campaign cash comes carpetbagged from out of the district, I can now better understand why Pelosi has taken her position.

And once I did somewhat educate myself on John Dennis and the district he is running for, it seems rather clear that district voters, debate or not, are very unlikely to vote for him in sufficient numbers for Dennis to win.

But for the final rest of the story, we will have to wait for the results of the election.
 

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A refusal to debate may be an effective tactic to win re-election, but to me it also shows disdain for the voters. I would expect anyone wanting my vote - ESPECIALLY an incumbent - to debate issues with the other candidate(s).

To me it says, "I don't have to explain my positions or actions." I have seen candidates from both parties refuse to debate, and it's wrong. There should be a moderated debate where the moderator forces the candidates to respond to the question. I'm tired of debates that go like this...

Question: What is your position on raising the income tax?
Answer: The American people are unhappy with the way government is spending their tax dollars. Blah, blah, earmarks, blah, waste, fraud, blah, I promise to reduce waste, blah, blah, blah until time is up.

They just ignore the question and spew their rehearsed sound bites. A good moderator would cut them off and direct them to respond to the question.

But until voters decide that refusing to debate is a reason to withhold a vote, I don't think things will change.
 

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Anarchist: Where is your thread berating Senator DeMented for refusing to debate Alvin Greene?
 

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With 2 mil in out of district cash, I don't think John Dennis will have any trouble delivering his campaign message to voters.

Maybe we used to have honest political debates in the USA, but lately all most of the debating candidates do is parrot their own sloganeering.

And sadly that is true for all political parties as the real issues are seldom debated in any sort of factual manner.
 

bfdd

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If you read my previous post, I did not say, "So because he might be something you don't like it's ok to ignore him? How the fuck do you go through life?"

And instead said I did not know why Pelosi took the no debate position at the time of posting, but since all his campaign cash comes carpetbagged from out of the district, I can now better understand why Pelosi has taken her position.

And once I did somewhat educate myself on John Dennis and the district he is running for, it seems rather clear that district voters, debate or not, are very unlikely to vote for him in sufficient numbers for Dennis to win.

But for the final rest of the story, we will have to wait for the results of the election.

Pelosi will win her district until she decides not to run because her district is full of morons. I apologize btw for my first comment.
 

werepossum

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Pelosi will win her district until she decides not to run because her district is full of morons. I apologize btw for my first comment.
So true. Her only threat would be a primary challenge, but since she's as far left as anyone could be, and she's already in power, and progressives do love power, so she's pretty safe. That's why she was such as good choice as Speaker; her constituency thinks corruption is a good thing as long as it's right people benefiting so she can do anything she wants for the cause.

Of course, they forgot what she would do to the chances of every Democrat not living in Kleptomania . . .
 

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One day Pelosi will die, and can no longer run for her old house seat or be a democratic leader. The same thing can be said about Mitch McConnell and John Boehner.

What fools will replace them as the USA merrily swirls down the toilet in that wondrous swirlyi?
 

Craig234

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...since she's as far left as anyone could be...

Idiocy. We don't have a left except Bernie Sanders, this is what happens when the radical right defines it. She is left OF the current right. So is every Republican president before W.