Name your price - hitmen

Farang

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http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blog...hire-plot-171429058--abc-news-topstories.html

They offered $8k to kill a guy. Every time I hear about these stories it seems like the rate is under $15k. It got me thinking--isn't this a really bad deal for the hitman?

Most people can land a job making $25k/year, so most of these hits are a few months salary at best. Factor in the huge risk you're taking, basically living under the threat of lifetime incarceration for the rest of your life, and I don't see how it is worth it.

It got me thinking about my own price. If we cast aside moral implications, or assume the victim really did deserve it (say someone wanted you to take out a Jerry Sandusky type), I'm thinking it has to be well over $100,000. Even then I'm not sure it's worth the risk. Actually pretty sure I don't have a price.. that is too huge gamble to take. Yet stories I hear about professional hitmen, who you'd think would know better, don't charge that much
 

waggy

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some are even cheaper. i remember a story where a lady paid $1500 for someone to kill her husband (she paid a undercover cop).

this brings me to a theory why its cheap. most times its a cop they offer the money to. so the cop is willing to take any amount to get a conviction.

somehow i doubt a real hitman is going to be this cheap. unless its wade wilson then maybe
 

HeXen

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Plenty of unsolved murders and missing people, so apparently it's not that risky unless you're stupid.
 

Farang

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Plenty of unsolved murders and missing people, so apparently it's not that risky unless you're stupid.

That's true, especially as a hitman because you have no ties/motive as far as anyone knows. But still a huge risk
 
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No price. I've been to prison before. I find it funny that you guys even throw a price out there even though it's all for kicks. So you'd really risk living next to the guy that was arrested for beating two people to death with a baseball bat for the rest of your life, eat food that will completely fuck up your digestion system and tastes horrible, have guards that treat you subhuman day and night to the point where you believe it, take showers with other grown men and don't forget to wear your sandals because Bubba just sprayed a load on the wall.
 

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Plenty of unsolved murders and missing people, so apparently it's not that risky unless you're stupid.

I read somewhere that 94% of all murders are solved. If that's true, it's still a pretty big risk. The truth is probably that the 94% are all the cases where it's obvious, and the 6% are split between the random killing of strangers (hardest to solve according to my former homicide detective brother-in-law), and the cases where nobody really cares because scumbag A killed scumbag B, and oh by the way, if you saw anything then scumbag A will kill you too.
 

blankslate

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That's true, especially as a hitman because you have no ties/motive as far as anyone knows. But still a huge risk

Yeah but it's probably a safe bet that those hitmen out there who don't get caught aren't charging a measly $8k for a hit.
 

phucheneh

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If prison wasn't a factor, I agree with tree-fiddy.

Maybe five bucks if I need an extra bullet.
 

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shortylickens

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Nope, all my local stores are completely out of 22, 25, 32, 380, and 9mm. Am pretty sure theres no 40 or 45 either. Only thing left at Nova Armaments is 17, 454, 500, and one of the other oddball calibers. Even the 44 is gone.
 

HeXen

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I read somewhere that 94% of all murders are solved. If that's true, it's still a pretty big risk. The truth is probably that the 94% are all the cases where it's obvious, and the 6% are split between the random killing of strangers (hardest to solve according to my former homicide detective brother-in-law), and the cases where nobody really cares because scumbag A killed scumbag B, and oh by the way, if you saw anything then scumbag A will kill you too.

Those solved murders are usually direct from someone they know with motive, like drug related or other. From a stranger it would be much harder to solve, serial killers usually get away with it for quite a while, their downfall is they can't stop and leave some kind of trail
 

John Connor

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Read up on the Chicago Outfit. It's called contract murder. There are hundreds that end up with the fishes. Once upon a time I wanted to be in the Mafia. But I already have sinned a life times worth and really don't want to anymore. If you can beat someone to death with a bat, break someone's fingers or gut someone with a scalpel then you have what it takes to be a mobster. But the Rico laws are a killer!
 

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BladeVenom

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I read somewhere that 94% of all murders are solved. If that's true...

Read up on the Chicago Outfit. It's called contract murder. There are hundreds that end up with the fishes.

"Chicago (home of Illinois&#8217; strictest gun control) isn&#8217;t safe: Over 75% of homicides unsolved, year to date..." -- http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=1005

532 homicides in Chicago in 2012.
441 homicides in Chicago in 2011.

If you want to be a hit-man, Chicago seems to be the place to go. Your target will have been disarmed by the police, and the police are too busy to solver most murders.
 
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Leros

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"Chicago (home of Illinois’ strictest gun control) isn’t safe: Over 75% of homicides unsolved, year to date..." -- http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=1005

532 homicides in Chicago in 2012.
441 homicides in Chicago in 2011.

If you want to be a hit-man, Chicago seems to be the place to go. Your target will have been disarmed by the police, and the police are too busy to solver most murders.

I wonder how many of those cases are gang-related violence where nobody really wants to bother solving the case.
 

Soccerman06

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I think it would be pretty easy to hide a corpse, give some brick shoes to someone and dump them into a body of water. Here you just need to make a hole in ice large enough to put a body through, let it freeze over night right before/during a snowstorm and you wont find the body for months, probably eaten away by all the fish prior to thawing.
 

akahoovy

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No price. I'd do it for fun.

They used to call me Green River but... 'they' are all gone now.
 

Farang

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I think it would be pretty easy to hide a corpse, give some brick shoes to someone and dump them into a body of water. Here you just need to make a hole in ice large enough to put a body through, let it freeze over night right before/during a snowstorm and you wont find the body for months, probably eaten away by all the fish prior to thawing.

In theory it's easy but first you have to create a corpse (execute a murder) and even then what you've described is still a logistical exercise involving multiple steps. Any mistakes you've made or witnesses there are will be magnified tenfold because solving murder cases is maybe the highest priority for detectives.