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NAACP audience boos Mitt Romney's comments

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Icepick

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http://www.latimes.com/health/la-na-romney-naacp-20120712,0,7868764.story

The civil rights group's reception of the Republican turns from warm to chilly when he criticizes the president and promises to repeal the healthcare law.
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Mitt's lukewarm attempt to woo NAACP supporters turned sour when he promised to return the country to its backward-facing path and repeal the much needed healthcare reform measures. If he was attempting to sway ethnic minorities and persons of color then this constitutes a failure. These comments underscore how out of touch this man is from the needs of the American people.
 
Icepick said:
http://www.latimes.com/health/la-na-romney-naacp-20120712,0,7868764.story



Mitt's lukewarm attempt to woo NAACP supporters turned sour when he promised to return the country to its backward-facing path and repeal the much needed healthcare reform measures. If he was attempting to sway ethnic minorities and persons of color then this constitutes a failure. These comments underscore how out of touch this man is from the needs of the American people.
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I am a proud Black man and I totally disagree. I give this guy a lot credit, a lot of credit. The first step to reaching anybody is to go and talk to them face to face. And truth be told, as a people group we are just so far behind everyone else, we need to rethink where we should place our allegiances. Some of it is our own undoing and some of it is not. Its a hard pill to swallow, but so far many of the answers have had only a small amount of success. So a change in ideals and philosophy I think should be welcomed. So of course he doesn't have all the answers, but for him to try and reach out is certainly a positive step in the right direction.
 
I can't stand Romney and I give him credit for going there as well. Just as I give Obama credit when he goes on Fox News or speaks to Christian right groups.

Politics has gotten bad enough already. If we get to the point where people can't even talk to their opponents, we're finished as a country.

And I think groups should consider that when they boo a speaker like that, it makes them look a lot worse than it makes the speaker look.
 
Good for Mr. Romney for showing up and telling that audience what he is planning to do. No pandering, just the truth. They can handle the truth and few politicians tell them the truth.
 
classy said:
I am a proud Black man and I totally disagree. I give this guy a lot credit, a lot of credit. The first step to reaching anybody is to go and talk to them face to face. And truth be told, as a people group we are just so far behind everyone else, we need to rethink where we should place our allegiances. Some of it is our own undoing and some of it is not. Its a hard pill to swallow, but so far many of the answers have had only a small amount of success. So a change in ideals and philosophy I think should be welcomed. So of course he doesn't have all the answers, but for him to try and reach out is certainly a positive step in the right direction.
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Excellent point and we can certainly give him credit for stepping out of his comfort zone and addressing a segment that normally constitutes a voting block for the Democrats. I also give him credit for not flip-flopping on his stated agenda with the tried and true Republican talking points of cutting federal spending and on repealing the proposed healthcare reforms in front of an audience that is not necessarily a slam-dunk for him.
 
a777pilot said:
Good for Mr. Romney for showing up and telling that audience what he is planning to do. No pandering, just the truth. They can handle the truth and few politicians tell them the truth.
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Good for him for showing up, yes. However, I disagree that there was no pandering and only "the truth." He alluded that he would eliminate "nonessential, expensive" government programs and these programs such as healthcare reform. While it can be argued that these government programs are not essential for his family, they are indeed very essential to the majority of working Americans who are increasingly being cut-off from basic needs due to inability to pay.
 
CharlesKozierok said:
I can't stand Romney and I give him credit for going there as well. Just as I give Obama credit when he goes on Fox News or speaks to Christian right groups.

Politics has gotten bad enough already. If we get to the point where people can't even talk to their opponents, we're finished as a country.

And I think groups should consider that when they boo a speaker like that, it makes them look a lot worse than it makes the speaker look.
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I think that this appearance was a calculated risk. I think that the booing audience paints the illusion that persons of color, in general, are at odds with his proposed policies. White Americans will get the impression that since these people are vehemently opposed to him that he's the candidate for white America. That is the audience he was really speaking to with this speech. Even though he was booed, this could still amount to a "win" for his campaign.
 
I applaud him for speaking in front of the racist group. Not sure it was smart, politically, but it is what the nation needs.
 
Icepick said:
Good for him for showing up, yes. However, I disagree that there was no pandering and only "the truth." He alluded that he would eliminate "nonessential, expensive" government programs and these programs such as healthcare reform. While it can be argued that these government programs are not essential for his family, they are indeed very essential to the majority of working Americans who are increasingly being cut-off from basic needs due to inability to pay.
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I have nothing against health care reform, but I do know two truths about it: 1. The ACA has very little to do with actual health care reform, it is all about taking over the health care insurance industry, and 2. This all should be done at the State level.
 
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Icepick said:
.... they are indeed very essential to the majority of working Americans who are increasingly being cut-off from basic needs due to inability to pay.
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I believe that is very true. That is why I am voting for Mr. Romney. He has the skill sets to get this nation back to work again. Then maybe the people will have a job and be able to afford health care.

To paraphrase Allen West, "The Safety Net is not meant to be a hammock."
 
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Extremely classless of them to boo him. I would not have bothered wasting my time talking to a largely racist organization who will certainly vote for the other guy regardless. I give Mitt credit for going out into a hostile environment and telling the truth, even if they didn't want to hear it.
 
Icepick said:
they are indeed very essential to the majority of working Americans who are increasingly being cut-off from basic needs due to inability to pay.
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Well, there's absolutely nothing in ACA that will reduce the cost of healthcare (in fact it will cost a lot more), so the inability to pay will not change. With any luck we can get a president who will actually take steps to get people to the point where they can afford to make their own choices rather than depending on the government for everything. Not likely though.
 
Icepick said:
I think that this appearance was a calculated risk. I think that the booing audience paints the illusion that persons of color, in general, are at odds with his proposed policies. White Americans will get the impression that since these people are vehemently opposed to him that he's the candidate for white America. That is the audience he was really speaking to with this speech. Even though he was booed, this could still amount to a "win" for his campaign.
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I agree that it was calculated... I don't agree that it was a risk. 🙂 He knew exactly what was going to happen, and he seemed gleeful when the booing started.

That said, he still gets credit for going into the lion's den.
 
PokerGuy said:
Well, there's absolutely nothing in ACA that will reduce the cost of healthcare (in fact it will cost a lot more), so the inability to pay will not change. With any luck we can get a president who will actually take steps to get people to the point where they can afford to make their own choices rather than depending on the government for everything. Not likely though.
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I see these comments and wonder exactly what gives some people confidence that Romney will accomplish this? What we need is for the average american to be gainfully employed in decent paying jobs.

Romney's solutions seems to be around cutting corporate taxes and cap gains as well as cutting a couple hundred federal programs. But corporate profits and income at the highest tiers are very healthy today - there's plenty of hoarding of cash. Companies today are limiting hiring and investment b/c they worry about sustainable consumer demand.

This seems like another form of trickle down economics where the idea is if a company has a bit more profit in the bank, then suddenly they're going to create jobs and investment. I laugh at anyone who buys into this as our economic solve. Just as I laugh at the low return "investment" of the current administration into green technologies which had a different but equally flawed premise - with federal funding, they hoped they could accelerate the creation of a new industry which would create jobs. Too bad consumer demand doesn't support it.
 
PokerGuy said:
Extremely classless of them to boo him. I would not have bothered wasting my time talking to a largely racist organization who will certainly vote for the other guy regardless. I give Mitt credit for going out into a hostile environment and telling the truth, even if they didn't want to hear it.
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They only booed him when he said he wanted to repeal ACA. Booing someone when they say something you disagree with is classless now? They were 'polite' the rest of the time. They wrere just informing him that they don't agree with that particular talking point. Nothing wrong with that.
 
a777pilot said:
I believe that is very true. That is why I am voting for Mr. Romney. He has the skill sets to get this nation back to work again. Then maybe the people will have a job and be able to afford health care.

To paraphrase Allen West, "The Safety Net is not meant to be a hammock."
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Yes, more tax cuts for the rich will work this time, I just know it. :thumbsup:
 
Mitt Romney is running for POTUS. In case anyone didn't realize black people are citizens. The NAACP is the oldest civil rights organization in the country.

The great Chris Rock once said only ignorant people try to take credit for shit they are supposed to do. What does Romney want a cookie??

He deserves no more credit then Obama sitting down with Rick Warren.

BTW - Romney also received some applause from the audience. The crowd was a little annoyed because Romney Romney used Obamacare as a perjorative. THis speech was not an attempt at outreach, he seemed to be talking over the heads of the crowd. It was more of a message to his conservative supporters, "see I can stand up to those black people"

This story backs up my theory

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-haberman/2012/07/mitt-i-didnt-pander-to-naacp-128721.html

But I hope people understand this, your friends who like Obamacare, you remind them of this, if they want more stuff from government tell them to go vote for the other guy — more free stuff.
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Lastly one of the more amazing quotes from this speech was the following...

"I believe that if you understood who I truly am in my heart, and if it were possible to fully communicate what I believe is in the real, enduring best interest of African-American families, you would vote for me for president,"
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This is amazing because of the admission he is not capable of communicating to black people
 
HomerJS said:
BTW - Romney also received some applause from the audience. The crowd was a little annoyed because Romney Romney used Obamacare as a perjorative. THis speech was not an attempt at outreach, he seemed to be talking over the heads of the crowd. It was more of a message to his conservative supporters, "see I can stand up to those black people"
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Yes, clearly this was intended as a secret code to his racist enablers that he can stand up to uppity blacks.
 
dank69 said:
Yes, more tax cuts for the rich will work this time, I just know it. :thumbsup:
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Nooo, another $1,000,000,000,000 is what we need. All the best economists in the world were wrong last time. We just need to spend more money we don't have....
 
dank69 said:
Yes, more tax cuts for the rich will work this time, I just know it. :thumbsup:
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Yes they will, but then I am using the classic Democrat definition of "rich": Anyone with a non-government job.

Oh, yes, he will also cut business taxes and especially the multitude of egregious regulations.
 
a777pilot said:
Yes they will, but then I am using the classic Democrat definition of "rich": Anyone with a non-government job.
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I wasn't aware that every non government job pays $200k/yr.

Oh, yes, he will also cut business taxes and especially the multitude of egregious regulations.
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Yes, corporations that are hoarding liquidity just need more tax cuts so they can create more jobs. Who cares if nobody is left that can afford to buy their products, the answer is clearly to ramp up production anyway.
 
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