Mysterious cables (or threads) hanging from the sky

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by hoyaguru, Aug 1, 2011.

  1. hoyaguru

    hoyaguru Senior member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2003
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    1
    I just came across this today, and it has really been freaking me out, especially as I look more into it. Is seems that back in 1970, in a town in New Jersey called Caldwell, some type of thread was noticed in the air hanging down over someone's house. No one could see where the thread was coming from. From a newspaper report,

    "It looks rigid, as if it were a wire, not a string. It appears silver when the sunlight strikes it. On Monday it hung about 150 feet above the houses on Forest Avenue and Hillside Avenue. By Tuesday, it seemed limper to Mrs Smith and other observers, as if one of its ends — wherever that is — had loosened. It also seemed lower in the sky. The Caldwell police tried to trace it on Monday, found signs of it up Hillside and down towards West Caldwell, but lost it in the clouds before tracking down the origins. They looked again on Tuesday with the same nebulous results."

    Neighbors from all over came out to see the thread. It stayed there for about a month (!) just hanging in mid air, through storms and windy days. Finally, some kids used a fishing pole and line to snag the end of it, they pulled on it, and they gathered "buckets" of the thread according to one report I read, "1000 feet of it" before it "snapped" according to another report. The end that was still up in the sky was never found. The part that was pulled down was taken to the DuPont company for testing. I read one report that said DuPont couldn't figure out what it was, and another that said they found it to be "chemically a type 6 Nylon (caprolactam) or possibly a copolymer such as type 6 and type 66, but that it was not of their manufacture." Also, the lines "had a fine hollow tube running through their length. When Dr. Vargas first examined the specimens this was empty, but after a time in a vacuum jar he found to his amazement that this tube was filled with some other solid substance, and this defied analysis as far as we can make out."

    Apparently this has also happened in other places, the Caldwell NJ incident took place in August of 1970, then it happened in Elberton, Georgia in June 1972, and in Greensburg, Ohio in September of 1978. Has anyone ever heard of anything like this? Is it some kind of hoax? I would think that if it were real, there would have been some kind of major investigation on it, every report I've been able to find seems fairly blasé about it.

    The latest report I found was from 2003, where someone writing for a publication called "Weird New Jersey" found one of the kids (who was around 40 years old at the time of the interview) who had snagged the thread with the fishing pole back in the 1970's. He said, "After the thread was hanging there for about a week, attracting all kinds of crowds, me and my buddies decided to pull it down. I got a fishing rod and just kept casting until we snagged it from mid air over the house. When we got a hold of it we just kept pulling and it just kept on coming down out of nowhere. Then it stopped and we found the end. There wasn't anything holding it from the other end, it was just coming out of nowhere! They took it from us and sent it off to some lab somewhere for testing and that's the last any of us ever heard about it. Jeez, now I wish I had saved some of it for a souvenir!".

    Now he's saying he found the end, where other reports say the thread snapped and the end was never found. But, it was over 40 years ago, I'm sure memories are a bit rusty by now. There's not a whole lot of info on this online, and what little there is comes from just a few sources. Anyone know someone who works at DuPont who could look into this?
     
    shortylickens likes this.
  2. OutHouse

    OutHouse Lifer

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2000
    Messages:
    34,844
    Likes Received:
    178
    Sounds like a topic for coast to coast
     
  3. Newbian

    Newbian Lifer

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2008
    Messages:
    24,066
    Likes Received:
    241
    They are gods pubic hairs. :(
     
  4. HamburgerBoy

    HamburgerBoy Lifer

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2004
    Messages:
    27,119
    Likes Received:
    306
    They're beams of light. Have you never seen light before?
     
  5. So

    So Lifer

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2001
    Messages:
    25,915
    Likes Received:
    1
    This all sounds very urban legend-y
     
    shortylickens likes this.
  6. DominionSeraph

    DominionSeraph Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2009
    Messages:
    8,280
    Likes Received:
    4
    ftfy
     
  7. gorcorps

    gorcorps aka Brandon

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2004
    Messages:
    29,893
    Likes Received:
    194
    Nobody in the town held on to any? Well that's convenient.
     
    Ken g6 likes this.
  8. Fritzo

    Fritzo Lifer

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2001
    Messages:
    39,137
    Likes Received:
    180
    Alien version of Repunzel.

    "Repunzelak, Repunzelak, let down your caprolactam nylon copolymer, so I may climb the fiberous threadlike stair!"
     
    HamburgerBoy and lxskllr like this.
  9. darkswordsman17

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2004
    Messages:
    15,777
    Likes Received:
    47
  10. tboo

    tboo Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2000
    Messages:
    7,627
    Likes Received:
    1
  11. BillGates

    BillGates Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2001
    Messages:
    7,388
    Likes Received:
    1
    This would be a great topic for skeptoid.com !
     
    shortylickens likes this.
  12. Schadenfroh

    Schadenfroh Elite Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2003
    Messages:
    38,418
    Likes Received:
    2
    My thoughts exactly, send it in to Dunning via the newsgroup or student questions audio.
     
    shortylickens likes this.
  13. hoyaguru

    hoyaguru Senior member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2003
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    1
    OK, I sent it to him. Sounds like he is backlogged, maybe he'll get back to me in a couple of years. If so, I'll post his findings here.
     
  14. disappoint

    disappoint Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2009
    Messages:
    9,741
    Likes Received:
    155
    Kept waiting for the punchline about an ongoing thread with too many posts in ATOT only to be me.
     
    Ken g6 likes this.
  15. Red Squirrel

    Red Squirrel Lifer

    Joined:
    May 24, 2003
    Messages:
    40,734
    Likes Received:
    1,219
    Did they have a space program then? My guess is no, but if they did, maybe it was something that was partially in orbit? Like some kind of very long cable for something where maybe 20% of it was in the atmosphere and the rest was in orbit, so it just hung there. That would be quite a sight to see though.

    Speaking of weird things, on two occasions, I witnessed something very shiny in the sky, looked kinda like magnesium burning. It would move around a bit but pretty much stay in one spot, then eventually vanish. I'm thinking maybe a large piece of foil paper caught up in the wind, but not sure if it would actually end up that high.

    A few days ago me and my dad were just sitting around the camp fire and noticed something that looked like a balloon with a candle hanging from it. No idea what it really was but it was odd. It looked to be fairly close, like maybe a few hundred feet at most.
     
  16. Jeff7

    Jeff7 Lifer

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2001
    Messages:
    41,596
    Likes Received:
    6
    The wind resistance on something like that would be considerable across the entire length. (Yes, it's just a filament, but it would also have to be pretty damn long. ;)) That's getting into the realm of space elevators, and they still don't have anything with the necessary tensile strength to be usable for such an application - certainly not nylon filaments. :)
    Plus nylon gets brittle if it is allowed to dry out (hygroscopic material). I'd guess that exposure to a vacuum would bring on embrittlement in a hurry on the higher altitude portions.


    (And if this was in 1970, and we had someone on the Moon in 1969, yes, I'd say the space program existed at the time. ;))
     
  17. Doppel

    Doppel Lifer

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    13,313
    Likes Received:
    1
    Urban legend/snopes theme going on here. No pics, no links, no corroboration, etc.
     
    shortylickens likes this.
  18. Doppel

    Doppel Lifer

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    13,313
    Likes Received:
    1
  19. DominionSeraph

    DominionSeraph Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2009
    Messages:
    8,280
    Likes Received:
    4
    No, orbit doesn't work like that. Geosync isn't until 22,000 miles out and you only get stationary positions over the equator. (An orbit around the Earth that comes up into the northern hemisphere has to dip down into the southern hemisphere on the other side. That's why, if you've ever seen a track of the Space Shuttle or ISS, it's a sine wave.
    [​IMG]
     
    #20 DominionSeraph, Aug 2, 2011
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2011
  20. Finfin

    Finfin Junior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2016
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    An account of this is written in amazon book spam

    You should really read <also removed>by Charles Fort 1919. This second book is free; the first one... not so much free. These things are called "damned", because science cannot explain them, therefore science excludes the collected data.
     
    #21 Finfin, Aug 10, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 10, 2016
  21. Fritzo

    Fritzo Lifer

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2001
    Messages:
    39,137
    Likes Received:
    180
    [​IMG]
     
    #22 Fritzo, Aug 10, 2016
    Last edited by a moderator: Aug 10, 2016
  22. Micrornd

    Micrornd Senior member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2013
    Messages:
    535
    Likes Received:
    6
    Geosync doesn't work like that either, there is no "stationary". :confused:
    Sats have to be maintained in their assigned position with thrusters as there is no perfect "sync".
    (We used to call it "station keeping", they may have another term these days.)
    Hence the reason (lack of remaining thruster fuel) most com stats are decommissioned and thrusted into higher orbits.
    BTW - Com sats are considered in "geosync" if they can maintain their position within a 90 mile cube.
    At that distance the angle of deviation is too minute to be of concern to ground stations and for the same reason a "narrow beam" parabolic on a com sat covers half the US. :)
     
    shortylickens likes this.
  23. homebrew2ny

    homebrew2ny Senior member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2013
    Messages:
    465
    Likes Received:
    5
    My guess is that it was some kind of experiment involving advanced carbon nano tube string like structures, possibly attached to a upper atmosphere balloon.
     
  24. JulesMaximus

    JulesMaximus No Lifer

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2003
    Messages:
    72,803
    Likes Received:
    243
    It's a space elevator.