Myriad of personal insults in video forum by BFG10k

[5150Joker]

I'm pretty sure personal attacks are against forum rules but obviously BFG10K thinks he's above the rules. I direct mod attention to this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=3&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear


Thanks.

 

[BFG10K]

Step 1: Create a ridiculous troll thread claiming no performance difference between 7800 GTX 512 and X1800 XT.

Step 2: Use flawed reasoning and blatant contradictions to extend said flawed thread.

Step 3: When beaten, run to the mods in Forum Issues for salvation.

I'm pretty sure personal attacks are against forum rules

So is trolling/flamebait, but that certainly didn't stop you from creating the thread that caused this whole mess. Pot-kettle-black I'm afraid.

 

[gsellis]

I read through the first page carefully. Joker, you actually got that ball rolling. It started with "buddy" in post that had a few more little pushes. Social Psych experiments have shown how "paybacks" only escalate and I could see how just a few misplaced words really started it.

I suggest you both PM each other with an apology for the words. It is still OK to disagree on the methods. You both have something to contribute and I find your posts interesting. I only saw one pointless post in the whole thread from a fanboy. I was actually surprised that the other fanboy from the n camp had not thread carped in their too.

/your mom

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
Step 1: Create a ridiculous troll thread claiming no performance difference between 7800 GTX 512 and X1800 XT.

Step 2: Use flawed reasoning and blatant contradictions to extend said flawed thread.

Step 3: When beaten, run to the mods in Forum Issues for salvation.

I'm pretty sure personal attacks are against forum rules

So is trolling/flamebait, but that certainly didn't stop you from creating the thread that caused this whole mess. Pot-kettle-black I'm afraid.

BFG-

The problem with you is that you see an argument clearly spelled out yet ignore it and call it trolling. When I defined "high IQ" I listed 4xTRSSAA/4xAAA and HQ AF as my basis of comparison and went as far as finding whatever benchmarks I could to show them (they are limited in quantity hence the reason for my complaint). Of course you decided to disregard that, nitpick and say, "OOOH look you said highest IQ, that means you ignored resolution..you stupid idiot!". Of course I didn't reply in kind, rather than come down to your level, I'd rather let mods take care of it.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: gsellis
I read through the first page carefully. Joker, you actually got that ball rolling. It started with "buddy" in post that had a few more little pushes. Social Psych experiments have shown how "paybacks" only escalate and I could see how just a few misplaced words really started it.

I suggest you both PM each other with an apology for the words. It is still OK to disagree on the methods. You both have something to contribute and I find your posts interesting. I only saw one pointless post in the whole thread from a fanboy. I was actually surprised that the other fanboy from the n camp had not thread carped in their too.

/your mom

Buddy isn't an insult. I reply to my friend Rollo all the time as buddy since it's in a friendly context. However calling someone, "idiot", "twelve year old", "simpleton", "troll" etc like BFG has done shows that he has lost capacity for a civilized discourse and resorted to name calling. That is where the discussion ends and the time comes for moderators to step in and remove that person.

 

[DrPizza]

Since I have no clue whatsoever about video cards, allow me to analyze the discussion.

For what it's worth, this statement, in the OP started it:

I guess people are so caught up in the hype that they aren't thinking clearly or they're just rabid fanboys that drool over anything nVidia.

At that point, you've said "if you dare to oppose my statement, you are not thinking clearly, or you are a rabid fanboy" - a pre-emptive strike against any meaningful discussion of what you believe is a valid point. I would consider this statement to be nothing other than flame-bait.
Note: my above considerations come with absolutely no clue what the heck you're talking about in regard to the video cards.

Imagine this as the first post in a thread:
"For measuring the kentonius effect, the Muttataco 78G456 outperforms the cornholio 811G when GHTX effects are considered. Yet the Cornholio is $150 more. Anyone who thinks the Cornholio is better is either not thinking rationally, or is a butt-headed cornholio fanboy."

Can you see how that's baiting someone who disagrees with your opinion to start a fight, rather than to simply provide evidence to the contrary? By opposing the OP, one becomes a "butt-headed cornholio fanboy", or in the case of the thread that you started, a "rabid fanboy."




And then, when the first post in your thread says " Yes, we needed another thread on the exact same topic the other 1000 are on" rather than explain why you felt it was necessary, you simply said "Yes, yes we did." While Rage187's response was obvious sarcasm, saying that in fact, "it isn't necessary to have another thread on this topic that's already being discussed ad nauseum," you make no attempt to show there is a reason for having another thread (the obligation was on you.) From reading forum issues, my impression is that the video forum is filled with many fanboys from both sides. Your response in this case makes me think the thread is for that express purpose as well.

Seems to me you just confused yourself there buddy.

Why not just "seems to me you just confused yourself"? I agree with gsellis. Sure, sometimes using the term "buddy" isn't derogatory. But, when used at the conclusion of a statement, its use in such instances is generally considered offensive. I'm a teacher. Suppose a student gets a question wrong in class. Which of these two statements do you think would get me in trouble: "I think you confused yourself," or "I think you confused yourself there buddy."



To be fair to both sides, while I agree that it seems 5150Joker's entire thread was nothing more than fanboism, BFG10K was the first to lose his cool and resort to the name calling. Given that the thread was absolutely useless (from what I could gather based on posts of other people), BFG10K should have simply just left the thread, than continuing to argue. Or, better yet, if he continued to argue, he should simply have not resorted to do so while also putting down the OP. If you truly think the OP is 10 years old, why are you wasting your time?

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
Since I have no clue whatsoever about video cards, allow me to analyze the discussion.

For what it's worth, this statement, in the OP started it:

I guess people are so caught up in the hype that they aren't thinking clearly or they're just rabid fanboys that drool over anything nVidia.

At that point, you've said "if you dare to oppose my statement, you are not thinking clearly, or you are a rabid fanboy" - a pre-emptive strike against any meaningful discussion of what you believe is a valid point. I would consider this statement to be nothing other than flame-bait.
Note: my above considerations come with absolutely no clue what the heck you're talking about in regard to the video cards.

Imagine this as the first post in a thread:
"For measuring the kentonius effect, the Muttataco 78G456 outperforms the cornholio 811G when GHTX effects are considered. Yet the Cornholio is $150 more. Anyone who thinks the Cornholio is better is either not thinking rationally, or is a butt-headed cornholio fanboy."

Can you see how that's baiting someone who disagrees with your opinion to start a fight, rather than to simply provide evidence to the contrary? By opposing the OP, one becomes a "butt-headed cornholio fanboy", or in the case of the thread that you started, a "rabid fanboy."

Point taken but in BFG's case, the insults didn't start until well into the discussion, not as a result of my initial statement. I've edited the original post as a result but my point stands, BFG10K started with insults much later into the thread, not as a reaction to the initial post.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NO ONE OUTSIDE OF THE VIDEO FORUM GIVES TWO SHITS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS THERE.
QUIT YOUR ADOLESCENT WHINING ABOUT THE FLAMES THERE.
THEY SHOULD NUKE THE ENTIRE DAMN FORUM IF YOU BRATS CAN'T GET ALONG.

 

[Pabster]

Grow up.

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Grow up.

QFT

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Grow up.

Its funny how this kind of attitude has become accepted in video? Would it be accepted anywhere else? I think you need to look at the situation more clearly, instead of just posting Grow up.

What happened to no personal attacks/insults/trolling? Guess you like trolls wherever you see them.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Pabster
Grow up.

Its funny how this kind of attitude has become accepted in video? Would it be accepted anywhere else? I think you need to look at the situation more clearly, instead of just posting Grow up.

What happened to no personal attacks/insults/trolling? Guess you like trolls wherever you see them.

All the little, whining sissies in Video need to grow the hell up and learn to use PMs. PM the Mods. They don't need to get their panties all up in a bunch and post here. They are just a bunch of cry baby, school girls that need to STFU.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Pabster
Grow up.

Its funny how this kind of attitude has become accepted in video? Would it be accepted anywhere else? I think you need to look at the situation more clearly, instead of just posting Grow up.

What happened to no personal attacks/insults/trolling? Guess you like trolls wherever you see them.

All the little, whining sissies in Video need to grow the hell up and learn to use PMs. PM the Mods. They don't need to get their panties all up in a bunch and post here. They are just a bunch of cry baby, school girls that need to STFU.

:Q

(I like the school girl theme )

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Pabster
Grow up.

Its funny how this kind of attitude has become accepted in video? Would it be accepted anywhere else? I think you need to look at the situation more clearly, instead of just posting Grow up.

What happened to no personal attacks/insults/trolling? Guess you like trolls wherever you see them.

All the little, whining sissies in Video need to grow the hell up and learn to use PMs. PM the Mods. They don't need to get their panties all up in a bunch and post here. They are just a bunch of cry baby, school girls that need to STFU.

Why don't you take your own advice and stop complaining?

 

[SickBeast]

Discussing the new fastest videocard on teh market can be very stressful on all parties involved. In this case, all the ATI fanbois had to swallow their pride and realize that their prized company no longer had the fastest card on the market. I repeat, this is very stressful. In turn, it stresses out the nVidia guys when the ATI guys won't admit defeat. The ensuing flame war is far worse than anything in P&N, including the flame threads created by rabid NeoCons.

Basically what I'm saying is that the people calling the video folks "school girls" need to have a little bit of compassion when a beast of a card such as the 512mb 7800GTX is released. It doesn't happen all that often, and I think that in this case the fanbois in question should be forced to admit their allegiances in the open and apologize for their partosan ways. :beer:

/thread.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Discussing the new fastest videocard on teh market can be very stressful on all parties involved. In this case, all the ATI fanbois had to swallow their pride and realize that their prized company no longer had the fastest card on the market. I repeat, this is very stressful. In turn, it stresses out the nVidia guys when the ATI guys won't admit defeat. The ensuing flame war is far worse than anything in P&N, including the flame threads created by rabid NeoCons.

Basically what I'm saying is that the people calling the video folks "school girls" need to have a little bit of compassion when a beast of a card such as the 512mb 7800GTX is released. It doesn't happen all that often, and I think that in this case the fanbois in question should be forced to admit their allegiances in the open and apologize for their partosan ways. :beer:

/thread.

Totally agree. WHen people are trolling in P and N, the P and N guys post it in FI. I don't see anyone saying grow up to them do I? Many times, the Flame wars in video get way outa hand, and people might want to post it in FI. You might say, just PM a Mod. Well, its the OPs choice on how he wants the mod to see it. See it via PM or see it in FI.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Discussing the new fastest videocard on teh market can be very stressful on all parties involved. In this case, all the ATI fanbois had to swallow their pride and realize that their prized company no longer had the fastest card on the market. I repeat, this is very stressful. In turn, it stresses out the nVidia guys when the ATI guys won't admit defeat. The ensuing flame war is far worse than anything in P&N, including the flame threads created by rabid NeoCons.

Basically what I'm saying is that the people calling the video folks "school girls" need to have a little bit of compassion when a beast of a card such as the 512mb 7800GTX is released. It doesn't happen all that often, and I think that in this case the fanbois in question should be forced to admit their allegiances in the open and apologize for their partosan ways. :beer:

/thread.

Totally agree. WHen people are trolling in P and N, the P and N guys post it in FI. I don't see anyone saying grow up to them do I? Many times, the Flame wars in video get way outa hand, and people might want to post it in FI. You might say, just PM a Mod. Well, its the OPs choice on how he wants the mod to see it. See it via PM or see it in FI.

OK, let me make this plain and simple.
If you get stressed out because some vendor makes a faster video card than another vendor and you are not one of those vendors, then you are a fvck tard.
In that case my input has no value because you would be too stupid to understand it.
Carry on.

EDIT:
From the top of FI:
"Please search before posting, this category is not actively monitored. Not all topics are responded to."
That is why, if you indeed want action, that you PM a Mod. Posting in FI every time someone upsets you makes you a school girl.
My comments are not directed at any specific person(s).

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Hacp
What happened to no personal attacks/insults/trolling? Guess you like trolls wherever you see them.

It isn't enforced elsewhere, why Video?

And I don't care for trolls ... especially the ones who cry in Forum Issues.

 

[compudog]

Why is it bad to be a school girl?






j/k. I agree with Oldsmoboat, this isn't the place for it.

 

[BFG10K]

While it's true that I did lose my temper and produced personal insults (I do apologize for this) I make no apologies for contesting that that train-wreck of a troll thread.

When I defined "high IQ" I listed 4xTRSSAA/4xAAA and HQ AF as my basis of comparison and went as far as finding whatever benchmarks I could to show them (they are limited in quantity hence the reason for my complaint).

Except you didn't define anything until your subsequent edit which came hours later, long after you had reported the thread.

You started the thread by cherry picking some settings, claiming there is equality between the cards as a result of those settings and then claiming anyone who opposes you must a rabid fanboy. You also claimed you wanted max IQ when your own cherry picked benchmarks blatantly contradicted this.

I'm glad people have quoted your original comments in this thread so we can see what dirty tricks you're playing with your edits.

I've edited the original post as a result but my point stands,

So you got rid of the evidence that works against you while you continue to lament the "poor old me" attitude to the moderatiors. I also love it how your edit makes yor post sound balanced and fair when wasn't anything like that to begin with

Like I said before, editing evidence after reporting a thread like that is a dirty and childish tactic, especially since you've since returned to continue to lament in this thead.

 

[ArchAngel777]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
While it's true that I did lose my temper and produced personal insults (I do apologize for this) I make no apologies for contesting that that train-wreck of a troll thread.

When I defined "high IQ" I listed 4xTRSSAA/4xAAA and HQ AF as my basis of comparison and went as far as finding whatever benchmarks I could to show them (they are limited in quantity hence the reason for my complaint).

Except you didn't define anything until your subsequent edit which came hours later, long after you had reported the thread.

You started the thread by cherry picking some settings, claiming there is equality between the cards as a result of those settings and then claiming anyone who opposes you must a rabid fanboy. You also claimed you wanted max IQ when your own cherry picked benchmarks blatantly contradicted this.

I'm glad people have quoted your original comments in this thread so we can see what dirty tricks you're playing with your edits.

I've edited the original post as a result but my point stands,

So you got rid of the evidence that works against you while you continue to lament the "poor old me" attitude to the moderatiors. I also love it how your edit makes yor post sound balanced and fair when wasn't anything like that to begin with

Like I said before, editing evidence after reporting a thread like that is a dirty and childish tactic, especially since you've since returned to continue to lament in this thead.

:thumbsup:

BFG lost his temper and made a mistake... We are all guilty of that at times. He apoligized for it and therefore, the problem is solved.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Discussing the new fastest videocard on teh market can be very stressful on all parties involved. In this case, all the ATI fanbois had to swallow their pride and realize that their prized company no longer had the fastest card on the market. I repeat, this is very stressful. In turn, it stresses out the nVidia guys when the ATI guys won't admit defeat. The ensuing flame war is far worse than anything in P&N, including the flame threads created by rabid NeoCons.

Basically what I'm saying is that the people calling the video folks "school girls" need to have a little bit of compassion when a beast of a card such as the 512mb 7800GTX is released. It doesn't happen all that often, and I think that in this case the fanbois in question should be forced to admit their allegiances in the open and apologize for their partosan ways. :beer:

/thread.

Totally agree. WHen people are trolling in P and N, the P and N guys post it in FI. I don't see anyone saying grow up to them do I? Many times, the Flame wars in video get way outa hand, and people might want to post it in FI. You might say, just PM a Mod. Well, its the OPs choice on how he wants the mod to see it. See it via PM or see it in FI.

OK, let me make this plain and simple.
If you get stressed out because some vendor makes a faster video card than another vendor and you are not one of those vendors, then you are a fvck tard.
In that case my input has no value because you would be too stupid to understand it.
Carry on.

EDIT:
From the top of FI:
"Please search before posting, this category is not actively monitored. Not all topics are responded to."
That is why, if you indeed want action, that you PM a Mod. Posting in FI every time someone upsets you makes you a school girl.
My comments are not directed at any specific person(s).

SO a person complains once in FI about a video forum post and you immedietly jump on that person? You say every time but generalizing=bad. And no, the person is NOT complaining about being stressed it. He is complaining because someone else attacked him.

Edit: if you expect people in video to PM a mod for trouble in threads, I expect you to be critical of ALL people who have trouble with threads, and tell ALL of them to go PM a mod and don't bother posting in FI at all. Your attacks on the OP is just discrimination, because his problem is in Video.

IMO, your being really childish.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Hacp
What happened to no personal attacks/insults/trolling? Guess you like trolls wherever you see them.

It isn't enforced elsewhere, why Video?

And I don't care for trolls ... especially the ones who cry in Forum Issues.

Just because it isn't enforced regularly doesn't meant its good to troll/flame. Are you encouraging people to flame and troll?

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Discussing the new fastest videocard on teh market can be very stressful on all parties involved. In this case, all the ATI fanbois had to swallow their pride and realize that their prized company no longer had the fastest card on the market. I repeat, this is very stressful. In turn, it stresses out the nVidia guys when the ATI guys won't admit defeat. The ensuing flame war is far worse than anything in P&N, including the flame threads created by rabid NeoCons.

Basically what I'm saying is that the people calling the video folks "school girls" need to have a little bit of compassion when a beast of a card such as the 512mb 7800GTX is released. It doesn't happen all that often, and I think that in this case the fanbois in question should be forced to admit their allegiances in the open and apologize for their partosan ways. :beer:

/thread.

Totally agree. WHen people are trolling in P and N, the P and N guys post it in FI. I don't see anyone saying grow up to them do I? Many times, the Flame wars in video get way outa hand, and people might want to post it in FI. You might say, just PM a Mod. Well, its the OPs choice on how he wants the mod to see it. See it via PM or see it in FI.

OK, let me make this plain and simple.
If you get stressed out because some vendor makes a faster video card than another vendor and you are not one of those vendors, then you are a fvck tard.
In that case my input has no value because you would be too stupid to understand it.
Carry on.

EDIT:
From the top of FI:
"Please search before posting, this category is not actively monitored. Not all topics are responded to."
That is why, if you indeed want action, that you PM a Mod. Posting in FI every time someone upsets you makes you a school girl.
My comments are not directed at any specific person(s).

SO a person complains once in FI about a video forum post and you immedietly jump on that person? You say every time but generalizing=bad. And no, the person is NOT complaining about being stressed it. He is complaining because someone else attacked him.

IMO, your being really childish.

I don't know what it is but every time I try to communicate an idea to you, I feel like I am just banging my head against the wall.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Edit: if you expect people in video to PM a mod for trouble in threads, I expect you to be critical of ALL people who have trouble with threads, and tell ALL of them to go PM a mod and don't bother posting in FI at all. Your attacks on the OP is just discrimination, because his problem is in Video.

IMO, your being really childish.

See what I mean? Absolutely 0 reading comprehension.

I give, you win.