My wife went to a funeral service this morning

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Certainly, it would be a difficult task to address. However, even on short notice, one would think that someone who is in that line of work would have drafted some kind of framework or words that they could draw on that hold universal meaning and appeal to people who've lost someone suddenly, or slowly.

Therein lays the rub. From these forums you can readily tell that not all backgrounds, customs and, perspectives are the same or even vaguely akin. So, many settle for common ground by reading from the 'book.' Some attempt to work in current events or shared difficulties in living. It seems in the OP's wife's case, it didn't go over.

 

[JulesMaximus]

You know, there are just as many bad preachers out there as good ones. You'd almost think they were human or, something...

While ATOT is the pinnacle of humanity, some strive to better themselves and fail. Funerals, like weddings, are a personal experience yet, preachers are often drafted at short notice to perform both. Many times without knowing the people involved. Still, participants struggle to reach some understanding or empathy for the event and, failing, look for someone to be angry with because it's a basic human response that's much safer than self inspection.

Perhaps a few here could better understand if tasked with the duty of notifying next of kin or reading a few words over the fallen as I have.

Hey, my wife never met the daughter but she works with the girl's mother who is distraught so she went to the wake and the funeral because she feels for her and wants to support and be there for her friend and colleague.

I'm not even sure what you're getting at here. I've been to several funerals and with the exception of my Dad's funeral last year, none of them have been overly preachy. I mean, what's the point of mentioning the economy or teen suicides or the end of the world bullshit? It just seems totally inappropriate.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I'm not even sure what you're getting at here. I've been to several funerals and with the exception of my Dad's funeral last year, none of them have been overly preachy. I mean, what's the point of mentioning the economy or teen suicides or the end of the world bullshit? It just seems totally inappropriate.

I said preachers not, preachy. I don't know what the point was in regards to "the economy, teen suicides or, end of the world bullshit." I wasn't there. You weren't there either and apparently didn't receive too many details from your wife. However, it may have been that reference to some preachers using current events to relate to the audience that I previously made. I merely objected to yet another bash religion thread based on personal feelings.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I said preachers not, preachy. I don't know what the point was in regards to "the economy, teen suicides or, end of the world bullshit." I wasn't there. You weren't there either and apparently didn't receive too many details from your wife. However, it may have been that reference to some preachers using current events to relate to the audience that I previously made. I merely objected to yet another bash religion thread based on personal feelings.

So, you're jumping to conclusions based on my second hand conclusions. You weren't there either. My wife was...and for her to mention it it must have made an impression on her. For what it's worth, my wife does go to church.

Here is the Obituary for anyone who is interested.

 

[Lanyap]

When my mother died last year we had the funeral home find a minister since mom was not a big church goer. This minister started talking about how people say Obama is "the one" and how the only "the one" is god. I'm like wtf? I don't want the minister talking about politics and Obama at mom's funeral. I gave him the evil eye and he moved on to something else.

 

[MtnMan]

Seen that before, when a pentecostal preacher took the advantage of having a large audience in attendance (it was the funeral for a firefighter killed in the line of duty, standing room only) and you could probably smell the brimstone for miles. This was a spittle spraying, pulpit beating, bible thumping, you're all going to hell, especially the baptists (he singled them out special) unless they follow his extremely narrow interpretation of the ancient superstition.

The firefighter in the flag drapped coffin in the front of the funeral home chapel was never even mentioned by this hate spewing so call man of god.

 

[alkemyst]

pretty bad when someone is on their phone at a funeral. Seems like par for the course today.

 

[JulesMaximus]

pretty bad when someone is on their phone at a funeral. Seems like par for the course today.

What the hell are you babbling about?

 

[MarkXIX]

What the hell are you babbling about?

Yeah, who mentioned anyone on a phone in this thread? Or was this some jackass way of injecting the death of Steve Jobs into the discussion?

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

So, you're jumping to conclusions based on my second hand conclusions. You weren't there either. (I believe i already said that) My wife was (that too)...and for her to mention it it must have made an impression on her. For what it's worth, my wife does go to church.

Here is the Obituary for anyone who is interested.

The only conclusion I jumped to was that this is another religion bashing thread which, seems to be born out by other posters. I'm glad your wife goes to church, perhaps she's a little more open to other possibilities. I also mentioned (I think this is the third time) that some preachers attempt to relate to current events as a method of reaching the audience but, not all preachers are good ones (second time). Sorry your wife was disturbed.

 

[alkemyst]

Yeah, who mentioned anyone on a phone in this thread? Or was this some jackass way of injecting the death of Steve Jobs into the discussion?

WTF are you talking about?!?!?

Church (like movies and everything else you shouldn't be on a phone in) is a place where you see a lot of people in the audience, but not listening to the priest/rabbi/etc and fucking around on their phones.

I assumed since the chick sent an email she was still in service as most would have just called with that long 'text'. I know most is not all so that is why I was confused.

I am sorry the talk of Steve Jobs death brings you so much pain...you should probably think about sticking with a non-techie forum if any techie icons meet their maker for a few days after.

 

[MarkXIX]

First, the death of Steve Jobs has little bearing on me personally, especially considering that I've never owned a single Apple product in my lifetime and don't intend to.

Second, how did you draw the conclusion that the e-mail was sent during the service from his remarks? What, people can't send e-mails from another location at another time anymore from a traditional computer? They HAVE to have sent it during the service from a cell phone? Really? And you're telling me I'm some kind of technophile moron who can't think a complete thought? Logic fails here...

 

[alkemyst]

First, the death of Steve Jobs has little bearing on me personally, especially considering that I've never owned a single Apple product in my lifetime and don't intend to.

Second, how did you draw the conclusion that the e-mail was sent during the service from his remarks? What, people can't send e-mails from another location at another time anymore from a traditional computer? They HAVE to have sent it during the service from a cell phone? Really? And you're telling me I'm some kind of technophile moron who can't think a complete thought? Logic fails here...

Dude, I never said anything about steve jobs in that reply...you clearly don't see the world like the rest of us.

Now you are totally ignoring the follow up post you are responding too.

Slow down a bit and read.

 

[JulesMaximus]

WTF are you talking about?!?!?

Church (like movies and everything else you shouldn't be on a phone in) is a place where you see a lot of people in the audience, but not listening to the priest/rabbi/etc and fucking around on their phones.

I assumed since the chick sent an email she was still in service as most would have just called with that long 'text'. I know most is not all so that is why I was confused.

As usual, your powers of deduction have failed you completely. She sent me the e-mail from home after the service.

Go back to the corner of Stupid and Drunk St.

 

[alkemyst]

you should probably have clarified that. Sorry I am just reporting on what I see out and about.

An email from a funeral seems like it came during it.

I am still not sure how the link you posted was a good one. Not many women want to go out trying to become a doctor but living as a GoGo dancer.

 

[JulesMaximus]

you should probably have clarified that. Sorry I am just reporting on what I see out and about.

An email from a funeral seems like it came during it.

I am still not sure how the link you posted was a good one. Not many women want to go out trying to become a doctor but living as a GoGo dancer.

I would think the fact that the e-mail spoke of the service in the past tense would have given that away. I did not edit it. I posted it exactly as she sent it to me this afternoon.

The girl seemed like a good person and was very well loved. She was definitely a beautiful young woman. She was a dancer, not a stripper...at least that's what I understood. But I didn't know her...I just know what my wife has told me about her and what her Mother is going through, who she does know. I can't imagine losing a child. Must be pure hell.

 

[alkemyst]

GoGo are strippers that stick to bikinis.

Not what I think I'd want in my obit if I was shooting for doctor.

 

[JulesMaximus]

GoGo are strippers that stick to bikinis.

Not what I think I'd want in my obit if I was shooting for doctor.

Kind of a moot point now don't you think?

 

[alkemyst]

Kind of a moot point now don't you think?

I'd think there was a better obit for the girl since your wife knew her mother so well.

 

[Kanalua]

she should leave him a bad yelp review

+1
That's the first thing I thought...

 

[kevman]

The pastor is just a shill for the church which is a profitable business. I wish to open my own church soon.

 

[silverpig]

Sounds like one of those "life is shit, your life especially is gonna suck, we're all doomed... so accept Christ and it'll all be better" pastors.

 

[Homerboy]

newsflash: Some people suck at their jobs. Yes, even pastors.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I'd think there was a better obit for the girl since your wife knew her mother so well.

Why would my wife have anything to do with it? She brought food over, bought a card and passed it around the office, and just tried to be helpful and there for her friend. I think she did exactly the right things.

 

[preslove]

Why hasn't alkemyst been banned, yet?