My wife is unwilling to admit that it is time to end it

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Lifer
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Dogs get old just like us. Unless he terminally ill or in pain like others have said, I woudln't put him down. Let him go on his own.
 

masterxfob

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I've always found humans' desire to "end an animals suffering" to be cute when we'll let our fellow humans breathe until their last gasp. Really always boggled my mind. And no, I'm not saying that we should euthanize humans.

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Miramonti

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I've always found humans' desire to "end an animals suffering" to be cute when we'll let our fellow humans breathe until their last gasp. Really always boggled my mind. And no, I'm not saying that we should euthanize humans.

At elder care centers you'll see people with dementia that think they are 5 years old and can't get by without their doll. And those are the lucky ones that still function. It's nearly impossible to see people in such deteriorated incapacitated condition and not want to consider euthanasia as an accepted form of treatment.
 

Locut0s

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I've always found humans' desire to "end an animals suffering" to be cute when we'll let our fellow humans breathe until their last gasp. Really always boggled my mind. And no, I'm not saying that we should euthanize humans.

I'll say it for you. We should allow Humans to be humanely euthanize, 1000%. Now of course it HAS to be up to the patient and or their loved ones in some circumstances. I'm not talking about putting people down in quite the same way as dogs but god knows we treat our dogs better at the end of their lives than we do our own loved ones.

Definition of Euthanasia: "refers to the practice of intentionally ending a life to relieve pain and suffering."

Fucking yes that should be legal! With the obvious condition I mentioned above.
 

Locut0s

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As for the OP I don't think you are going to get any satisfactory answers here. There really aren't any satisfactory answers for this kind of thing. Personally I would say wait till the dog is in obvious pain and discomfort. The symptoms you list just sound like old age.
 

Rage187

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I've always found humans' desire to "end an animals suffering" to be cute when we'll let our fellow humans breathe until their last gasp. Really always boggled my mind. And no, I'm not saying that we should euthanize humans.

I thought this the other day. It's pretty fucked up.
 

Wyndru

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I agree it's time to put the dog down if it's really suffering and it can't be helped at this point.

Getting a "replacement" dog might have a different reaction on different people though. I'd be too upset to even think about another animal for months after one has passed.
 

darkewaffle

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I agree with most of what's been said.

Just because the end is coming doesn't mean you press the fast forward button, if that's your case then you may as well just have the puppy put down as well.

He's not suffering (yet), he's just having trouble, and accepting that is part of what it means to love your pet.

Our dog is probably 11/12/13 now, something like that, we know she probably only has a couple years left. Lately she needs water more often but she has trouble controlling her urination and ends up going in the house at times, she pants a lot because of a thyroid issue, she has age 'bumps', she's losing her hearing but still barks at everything, and her hips aren't what they used to be, she's a bit slower now.

But you take the bad with the good because you love'm and I'm happy to have her in my house until the very end.
 

Locut0s

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I agree with most of what's been said.

Just because the end is coming doesn't mean you press the fast forward button, if that's your case then you may as well just have the puppy put down as well.

He's not suffering (yet), he's just having trouble, and accepting that is part of what it means to love your pet.

Our dog is probably 11/12/13 now, something like that, we know she probably only has a couple years left. Lately she needs water more often but she has trouble controlling her urination and ends up going in the house at times, she pants a lot because of a thyroid issue, she has age 'bumps', she's losing her hearing but still barks at everything, and her hips aren't what they used to be, she's a bit slower now.

But you take the bad with the good because you love'm and I'm happy to have her in my house until the very end.

It's amazing how human dogs can seem. Their old age mannerisms, the way they decline, all seem very very familiar. It's a wonder people still cling to the idea that we are separate from the animal kingdom in any way shape or form. One only has to study another animal for a short while to be deeply convinced that we too are just another animal and share so much in common.
 

TwiceOver

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Dec 20, 2002
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My wife held on to her cat until the very end. UTIs, Diabetis, then kidney failure. It's tough, and she finally said it was time for him to go.
 

Genx87

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2 kids.

My plan new puppy -> chief is gone a few days later.

You owe it to your dog to not bring in the replacement while he is alive. Would you like having your boss bring in your replacement several days before you get fired?

It is also a good learning lesson for the kids to see the cycle of life.
 

surfsatwerk

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Love your wife enough to respect her wishes about the dog. If the dog turns into a puke and shit machine bring the euthanasia issue up again, until then let her have all the time she needs or your wife will fucking hate you.
 

Megatomic

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I agree with most of what's been said.

Just because the end is coming doesn't mean you press the fast forward button, if that's your case then you may as well just have the puppy put down as well.

He's not suffering (yet), he's just having trouble, and accepting that is part of what it means to love your pet.

Our dog is probably 11/12/13 now, something like that, we know she probably only has a couple years left. Lately she needs water more often but she has trouble controlling her urination and ends up going in the house at times, she pants a lot because of a thyroid issue, she has age 'bumps', she's losing her hearing but still barks at everything, and her hips aren't what they used to be, she's a bit slower now.

But you take the bad with the good because you love'm and I'm happy to have her in my house until the very end.
Great post.

We have an older dog who has many of the same issues (minus the going potty inside the house), add this one: he freaks out whenever he hears a beep. Any beep. Microwave, phone, computer, truck backing up, etc... When he freaks out he shakes like he has parkinsons, pants, and gets frantic. We have to shut him in a quiet and dark bedroom for 30 minutes to get him to calm down. It's very annoying and he has destroyed household items in his various frantic states.

But he's been a loyal family member for 11 years now. Sometimes I find myself looking forward to the day when he stops doing this stuff, but I can never put him out of his misery. He still interacts meaningfully with the family, he still knows his name, and he still does his business in the back yard without fail. The rest is bearable.

OP, it sounds like the dog is not there yet. Enjoy having him around while you can. Years down the road you won't regret being humane to the wife and her dog.
 

Capt Caveman

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I agree with most of what's been said.

Just because the end is coming doesn't mean you press the fast forward button, if that's your case then you may as well just have the puppy put down as well.

He's not suffering (yet), he's just having trouble, and accepting that is part of what it means to love your pet.

Our dog is probably 11/12/13 now, something like that, we know she probably only has a couple years left. Lately she needs water more often but she has trouble controlling her urination and ends up going in the house at times, she pants a lot because of a thyroid issue, she has age 'bumps', she's losing her hearing but still barks at everything, and her hips aren't what they used to be, she's a bit slower now.

But you take the bad with the good because you love'm and I'm happy to have her in my house until the very end.

Sounds like your dog might have some kidney issues. Something that a possible diet change can correct. One of my old dogs had an incontinence in her last few years, an inexpensive drug corrected the issue. Check with your vet.
 

uclaLabrat

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I just can't do that, as much as I would like to.

Tonight she was feeding him by hand because he can't figure out the bowl.

I think he has dementia.

She is telling me he seems over all happy.

The dog has never been the brightest animal but really the bowl is baffling him?
We had a 15 y/o golden retriever that we put to sleep about a year ago (the day before we moved cross country). My wife wanted to hold off for the same reason, he seemed happy. He's a damn golden, you could stab him in the chest and he'd wag his tail. In the end, it was for the best, he couldn't even really stand up on his own.
 

alkemyst

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Sounds like your dog might have some kidney issues. Something that a possible diet change can correct. One of my old dogs had an incontinence in her last few years, an inexpensive drug corrected the issue. Check with your vet.

azodyl, my 11 year old corgi/golden mix I inherited last year with cancer, diabetes and a missing forelimb is doing good.

OP, don't "buy" more pets, you are a fucking failure once you said $600 has been invested on a 12 year old dog.

Even outside this you are major fail...

Blind dogs will hit walls at times, they can't see them.

Outside of that, if they aren't really eating, like even people food (and no nasal issue is discovered) then it's probably time.

Fucking $600 is hardly a lot of money keeping a dog. Just a simple surgery is more than that usually. Pet insurance is available.

It's sad so many think when one cares for a dog or cat that they must be thinking those species > man.

It's not that clear cut.

However, pets are a protected class. Just like soldiers can 'murder'.

Say what you want, but those laws got voted into place.

In the US, your dog or cat have some rights.