My thoughts on the whole Michael Moore thing...

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
irwincur i see you have a nasty habit of making very ill-informed assumptions based upon little facts. michael moore does not have to give one cent to his hometown of Flint, MI. he made a documentary about GM leaving Flint and made money off of it, so what? he does not have to give anything back to these people. that doesn't make him a hypocrite or a loser. in fact, that sounds like something a Republican would do.

LOL old Sudheer trying to blame Republicans for Moore's follies now? :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: RebelDog
Anyone that watches Farenheit 911 should also watch the documentary, FarenHYPE 911. Equal and opposite time, give the other side their say. Then draw your conclusions.

Yep... The F 9/11 lies from Moore (as well as his 'creative' video editing) are all thoroughly and completely debunked.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
irwincur i see you have a nasty habit of making very ill-informed assumptions based upon little facts. michael moore does not have to give one cent to his hometown of Flint, MI. he made a documentary about GM leaving Flint and made money off of it, so what? he does not have to give anything back to these people. that doesn't make him a hypocrite or a loser. in fact, that sounds like something a Republican would do.

LOL old Sudheer trying to blame Republicans for Moore's follies now? :laugh: :laugh:

Cogent logic isn't your forte, is it? :roll:

 

[ShadesOfGrey]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
irwincur i see you have a nasty habit of making very ill-informed assumptions based upon little facts. michael moore does not have to give one cent to his hometown of Flint, MI. he made a documentary about GM leaving Flint and made money off of it, so what? he does not have to give anything back to these people. that doesn't make him a hypocrite or a loser. in fact, that sounds like something a Republican would do.

LOL old Sudheer trying to blame Republicans for Moore's follies now? :laugh: :laugh:

Cogent logic isn't your forte, is it? :roll:

After dealing with your garbage in the other thread about taxes, I don't think you have any standing to lecture someone on "logic", "Cogent" or otherwise.:laugh:

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne

Originally posted by: johnjohn320

Originally posted by: irwincur
Actually he is a hypocrite.

Roger and Me was about GM leaving Flint. Basically, the rich got rich, left the town for dead.

Moore did a decent movie covering the effects of this.

Got rich off of the movie.

Proceeded to leave Flint - never coming back - never giving a penny to the poor in Flint.

He is so hated there now it is not even funny. If you are going to take up a cause, at least try to be somewhat behind it.

Hence, the guy is a loser and a hypocrite.

O RLY?
A simple google search turns up other sources for that as well.

as usual irwincur is dead wrong in his horrific ASSumptions.

He seems to be in a frenzy of dispensing misinformation tonight.

Or is he always like this?

He has a history of telling outright lies and then tucking tail and hiding from P&N for weeks.

 

[Genx87]

Michael Moore is what he is, an opportunist looking to make money off peoples ignorance and willful ability to believe everything in the world is bad.

However, Moore is a man who makes bold statements and backs them up with research, fact, etc...you look pretty stupid if you call him a liar and hypocrite but can provide absolutely no hard evidence of this yourself.

59 deciets of Farehype 911

Enjoy

 

[Genx87]

Proceeded to leave Flint - never coming back - never giving a penny to the poor in Flint.

My understanding is he never actually ever lived in Flint, but a much better off place right near it?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: RebelDog
Anyone that watches Farenheit 911 should also watch the documentary, FarenHYPE 911. Equal and opposite time, give the other side their say. Then draw your conclusions.

So says "Rebel Dog" from Tennessee. The civil war ended over a century ago.

It did? Seems like there is a huge racial divide in America. Oh the war .... yeah, you guys really wanted us back.

No idea what you mean here? Who didn't want you back? The "War" was heartbreaking for both sides. Brother fighting brother as Lincoln said.

It just seems like the South cannot live up to the great ideals of our constitution. When that happens then America will truly be united.

Is that why liberals from NY whine about leaving this great nation?

kk

 

[Genx87]

All I can say is that throughout Asia, Africa and South America what group has slaughtered, oppressed and killed the most? It is quite easy to see.

So the few millions the japanese killed in China and SE asia means nothing?
What about the millions killed by starvation by the communists in China by Chinese?
How about good old Pol Pot?
How about the purges in South Vietnam after the North won by Vietnamese?

I think your notion the white man has killed more people on Asia is quite sad and ignorant.

Now onto Africa, I watch those cival wars and dont see many Whites out there killing blacks wholesale?

Is this part of your self hate program going off again?

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
irwincur i see you have a nasty habit of making very ill-informed assumptions based upon little facts. michael moore does not have to give one cent to his hometown of Flint, MI. he made a documentary about GM leaving Flint and made money off of it, so what? he does not have to give anything back to these people. that doesn't make him a hypocrite or a loser. in fact, that sounds like something a Republican would do.

LOL old Sudheer trying to blame Republicans for Moore's follies now? :laugh: :laugh:

Cogent logic isn't your forte, is it? :roll:

After dealing with your garbage in the other thread about taxes, I don't think you have any standing to lecture someone on "logic", "Cogent" or otherwise.:laugh:

So do you agree that Sudheer was "trying to blame Republicans for Moore's follies", or are you just bent that I dismissed your evasion in that other thread?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Genx87

All I can say is that throughout Asia, Africa and South America what group has slaughtered, oppressed and killed the most? It is quite easy to see.

So the few millions the japanese killed in China and SE asia means nothing?
What about the millions killed by starvation by the communists in China by Chinese?
How about good old Pol Pot?
How about the purges in South Vietnam after the North won by Vietnamese?

I think your notion the white man has killed more people on Asia is quite sad and ignorant.

Now onto Africa, I watch those cival wars and dont see many Whites out there killing blacks wholesale?

Is this part of your self hate program going off again?

Is this attack part of your self hate program going off again as an attack on one who threatens your own self illusions? Notice that the person you go after will pay as much attention to you as you to me.

 

[Tab]

While Micheal Moore's first documentary was rather not factual at all, his second documentary was much better. His first documentary was rather poor and his name will suffer because of this.

If you cut the crap out of F 9/11 it would have been an great documentary; instead of a good one.

 

[Helenihi]

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: RebelDog
Anyone that watches Farenheit 911 should also watch the documentary, FarenHYPE 911. Equal and opposite time, give the other side their say. Then draw your conclusions.

So says "Rebel Dog" from Tennessee. The civil war ended over a century ago.

It did? Seems like there is a huge racial divide in America. Oh the war .... yeah, you guys really wanted us back.

No idea what you mean here? Who didn't want you back? The "War" was heartbreaking for both sides. Brother fighting brother as Lincoln said.

It just seems like the South cannot live up to the great ideals of our constitution. When that happens then America will truly be united.

We all know about the civil war and it was gruesome. But your comments about the south are plain stupid. How is the south *right now* not living up to the constitution? Are you going to back that up?

As far as racial divide in concerned, I think that certain racial groups can get away with racism while others cannot. Its a double standard, but oh well.

Thats because you are close minded and do not realize the extent of white racism. We will get into this argument again and again. Its pointless.

All I can say is that throughout Asia, Africa and South America what group has slaughtered, oppressed and killed the most? It is quite easy to see.

The Mongols? Or were you thinking communists?

 

[outriding]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Proceeded to leave Flint - never coming back - never giving a penny to the poor in Flint.

My understanding is he never actually ever lived in Flint, but a much better off place right near it?

I think he had a newspaper in Flint...

 

[outriding]

Originally posted by: irwincur
Actually he is a hypocrite.

Roger and Me was about GM leaving Flint. Basically, the rich got rich, left the town for dead.

Moore did a decent movie covering the effects of this.

Got rich off of the movie.

Proceeded to leave Flint - never coming back - never giving a penny to the poor in Flint.

He is so hated there now it is not even funny. If you are going to take up a cause, at least try to be somewhat behind it.

Hence, the guy is a loser and a hypocrite.

I have lived in Flint since I was 29 and my parents still live there. My dad just retired from GM. What you said there is crap.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: outriding

Originally posted by: irwincur
Actually he is a hypocrite.

Roger and Me was about GM leaving Flint. Basically, the rich got rich, left the town for dead.

Moore did a decent movie covering the effects of this.

Got rich off of the movie.

Proceeded to leave Flint - never coming back - never giving a penny to the poor in Flint.

He is so hated there now it is not even funny. If you are going to take up a cause, at least try to be somewhat behind it.

Hence, the guy is a loser and a hypocrite.

I have lived in Flint since I was 29 and my parents still live there. My dad just retired from GM. What you said there is crap.

Did you expect any less???

 

[3chordcharlie]

Moore is paranoid; he sees conspiracies both where they are evident, and where they are not.

To accept everything that he says, and everything he implies is not a bright decision.

That being said, what he stands for is the constitution of the United States, liberty, privacy, and also more leftist (not liberal; it's the wrong word) ideals like helping people in need. I would say that ideologically, he is a great American.

 

[ShadesOfGrey]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: ShadesOfGrey

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
irwincur i see you have a nasty habit of making very ill-informed assumptions based upon little facts. michael moore does not have to give one cent to his hometown of Flint, MI. he made a documentary about GM leaving Flint and made money off of it, so what? he does not have to give anything back to these people. that doesn't make him a hypocrite or a loser. in fact, that sounds like something a Republican would do.

LOL old Sudheer trying to blame Republicans for Moore's follies now? :laugh: :laugh:

Cogent logic isn't your forte, is it? :roll:

After dealing with your garbage in the other thread about taxes, I don't think you have any standing to lecture someone on "logic", "Cogent" or otherwise.:laugh:

So do you agree that Sudheer was "trying to blame Republicans for Moore's follies", or are you just bent that I dismissed your evasion in that other thread?

Neither. I am just pointing out that you are hardly one who should be giving advice or criticizing someone about "logic" since it's obvious you have issues with it yourself as chronicled in that other thread.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: johnjohn320
"I" "hate" "My girlfriend". "My girlfriend" "profits from" "Fscking" "My roommate".

Everything in this quote is factual, and taken from the OP. Consider this a lesson in "creative editing."

LOL, Michael is that you? :laugh:

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Michael Moore is what he is, an opportunist looking to make money off peoples ignorance and willful ability to believe everything in the world is bad.

However, Moore is a man who makes bold statements and backs them up with research, fact, etc...you look pretty stupid if you call him a liar and hypocrite but can provide absolutely no hard evidence of this yourself.

59 deciets of Farehype 911

Enjoy

59 Deceits of F9/11 debunked

Enjoy

For the record....I think Moore is an oppotunistic a$$ along the lines of Hannity, Rush, etc.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Genx87
Michael Moore is what he is, an opportunist looking to make money off peoples ignorance and willful ability to believe everything in the world is bad.

However, Moore is a man who makes bold statements and backs them up with research, fact, etc...you look pretty stupid if you call him a liar and hypocrite but can provide absolutely no hard evidence of this yourself.

59 deciets of Farehype 911

Enjoy

59 Deceits of F9/11 debunked

Enjoy

For the record....I think Moore is an oppotunistic a$$ along the lines of Hannity, Rush, etc.

Already went over this,

A. Dailykos is a joke of a site
B. They use their own opinions to discredit Kopel, where Kopel uses links and backs up his claim.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Michael Moore is what he is, an opportunist looking to make money off peoples ignorance and willful ability to believe everything in the world is bad.

However, Moore is a man who makes bold statements and backs them up with research, fact, etc...you look pretty stupid if you call him a liar and hypocrite but can provide absolutely no hard evidence of this yourself.

59 deciets of Farehype 911

Enjoy

I already posted that link in the thread

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Moore is paranoid; he sees conspiracies both where they are evident, and where they are not.

To accept everything that he says, and everything he implies is not a bright decision.

His own film, Bowling for Columbine is a good example of that. It seems the entire film was dedicated to the task of showing that violence in America is caused by our "gun-crazy" idealology and the NRA, but by the end of the film, he disproved that hypothesis and just kinda trailed off.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: johnjohn320
"I" "hate" "My girlfriend". "My girlfriend" "profits from" "Fscking" "My roommate".

Everything in this quote is factual, and taken from the OP. Consider this a lesson in "creative editing."

:laugh: :thumbsup:

 

[azazyel]

What he did at the Oscars was enough for me to be turned off by him. Also, the debunking of the bunk was junk. Only read a few but they made my head hurt.