My theory is most republicans need viagra but won't admit it. So they cooked up some horse crap about a treatment for COVID

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MichaelMay

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I wouldn't exactly compare it to an amputation, for certain patients it may help with tissue oxygenation at a pretty basic level. You wouldn't write off giving Covid patients supplemental oxygen because it doesn't directly work on the virus itself would you? How about BiPap? Prone ventilation?

It isn't new science, but a new method/application of an established treatment. When I worked on NICU/PICU transport team in the late 90s, nitric oxide was in established use then for premies with severely compromised respiratory systems. Viagra is just a different way of getting the same effect.

For those not familiar, Viagra and its cousin medications help improve blood flow by relaxing the walls of certain blood vessels. That can help you get an erection (if your issue is a blood flow problem) or in this case, it is thought to be improving blood flow to and from the lungs by relaxing blood vessels in the pulmonary circuit. Getting what functional lung tissue remains to work a bit better.

Though I do agree that nothing has been presented to make any case for it helping prevent it, or do anything outside possibly helping people who are already severely compromised by the disease and at a high likelihood of death.

It is analogous in that both are treatments for issues caused by the infection and neither actually treat the infection or the cause of the infection. No one is writing off either, that is not the point and I don't appreciate the strawman.

We know that Covid can cause PAH, we know that sildenafil can be used to treat PAH so it obviously has its place in treating PAH whether it's caused by a Covid infection or not.
 

FirNaTine

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It is analogous in that both are treatments for issues caused by the infection and neither actually treat the infection or the cause of the infection. No one is writing off either, that is not the point and I don't appreciate the strawman.

We know that Covid can cause PAH, we know that sildenafil can be used to treat PAH so it obviously has its place in treating PAH whether it's caused by a Covid infection or not.

So analogous that they are both significant surgical procedures that carry the risks associated with anesthesia? Or they both cause an irreversible loss of part of your body and loss of function? No? OK, then they are clearly NOT analogous at all.
 

MtnMan

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Ending the segment, Carlson asked: "Is there anything it [Viagra] doesn't cure?"
Is viagra the new CBD? Is big Ivermectin going to be pissed now?


Seriously though, if future studies actually show it does help in some cases then that's a good thing. Not in an "instead of" to the vaccine but goes along with it.
They probably still can find the clitoris, or even care enough to bother looking.
 

MichaelMay

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So analogous that they are both significant surgical procedures that carry the risks associated with anesthesia? Or they both cause an irreversible loss of part of your body and loss of function? No? OK, then they are clearly NOT analogous at all.

No, analogous in that they are both treatments for complications and do not treat the infection itself... I literally fucking explained it in the post you replied to.

This is not hard, why are you doing your best to play really fucking stupid about it and refusing to get the very simple point that was explained to you TWICE before? Is it that you want to be a special little boy who cannot be wrong?
 

FirNaTine

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No, analogous in that they are both treatments for complications and do not treat the infection itself... I literally fucking explained it in the post you replied to.

This is not hard, why are you doing your best to play really fucking stupid about it and refusing to get the very simple point that was explained to you TWICE before? Is it that you want to be a special little boy who cannot be wrong?

You realize virtually all care for viral diseases is supportive? In fact a very high percentage of intensive care medicine for all diseases is supportive not curative medicine, no? Other than transmission prevention, not much else can be done as antiviral medicines are still no where near as developed as other forms of medical care.

You clearly lack either the mental capacity or medical knowledge to participate in a conversation regarding this, and result to personal attacks and deflecting when I have clearly shown your original claim to be wrong, no matter how many times you repeat it or how loud you scream it,.