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My shot at a college football playoff system. Please critique.

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TC2181

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11 game schedule a standard for every school (excluding conference championship). This cannot include I-AA teams. 3 non-conference games (this would allow for out of conference rivalry games), 8 conference games (providing the conference is large enough for 8 games).

Teams can schedule up to 2 pre-season games, if they would like. This can include I-AA teams, but it will exclude teams within their conference.

Conference championship for every conference is required. (excluding I-A Independent)

16 team playoff. 11 teams would be drawn from the conference champions, 5 would be at large berths. At-large berths would be determined by poll rankings, and a "BCS-like" computer system", factoring in quality wins, losses, SOS, Margin of victory, etc.

Bowls for those who do not make the playoffs, or perhaps a larger playoff (32 teams), like an NIT.
 
Money, coaches and kids have to atleast act like they care about school, how long would the season end up being?
 
Originally posted by: Spoooon
Money, coaches and kids have to atleast act like they care about school, how long would the season end up being?
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Most coaches and the athletes could care less about a playoff system. Money is a big issue. Hopefully the playoffs could be divided into regionals, with sponsers and all that. Kind of like March Madness. Regular season would end before finals, post-season play would begin after Xmas break.
 
I actually just thought about that exact same thing and I think I kinda like it. 11 playoff teams, one from each conference. That way, schools from the current non-BCS conferences have no room to complain about not getting their shot. Win your conference and there's your shot.

Rounding out the 16 teams, just like I thought about, would be a BCS-like system. As for when and where the playoff games are played, current bowls could still be used because the bowls won't go for having a playoff unless they can make money. So use the top-tier bowl games now for the playoff locations. The bowls make money and give some of the revenue from the game to the two conferences (or one, if an at-large team plays their conference champ)) like is done now. If the conferences aren't making money from the bowl games like they do now, there is absolutely no way any type of playoff system will ever happen.

I just told the idea to one of my friends and he likes it, too.
 
Originally posted by: TC2181
11 game schedule a standard for every school (excluding conference championship). This cannot include I-AA teams. 3 non-conference games (this would allow for out of conference rivalry games), 8 conference games (providing the conference is large enough for 8 games).

Teams can schedule up to 2 pre-season games, if they would like. This can include I-AA teams, but it will exclude teams within their conference.

Conference championship for every conference is required. (excluding I-A Independent)

16 team playoff. 11 teams would be drawn from the conference champions, 5 would be at large berths. At-large berths would be determined by poll rankings, and a "BCS-like" computer system", factoring in quality wins, losses, SOS, Margin of victory, etc.

Bowls for those who do not make the playoffs, or perhaps a larger playoff (32 teams), like an NIT.
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eh, 11 conference champions would make for a pretty weak playoff if there are only 16 teams total. Nothing against the MAC, Mountain West, WAC, Sun Belt, CUSA, etc. Although, it would create an equal opportunity for everyone which is probably good for football down the road if parity among the conferences is the goal so now that I think about it as I type, that'd be cool 🙂

I think even including a playoff system, a season has to be kept to a maximum of 13-14 games like it is unless schools are heavily in favor of playing 3-4 more games. Pre-Season is unlikely at the college level. Of course I'm not even a fan of that at the pro level.

Nice ideas though
 
There are multiple threads on this subject. Here is what I've posted elsewhere. It is an 8 team playoff (actually it is a 16 team playoff - but not all winners of the first game advance - if you think about it).

1) A regular season is 12 games.
2) All conferences have a conference championship game. This will affect a few teams, but most either won't make it there, or already have a conference championship game.
3) The conference champion is guaranteed a playoff game IF they finish in the top 10 of the BCS (this number may be adjusted slightly, top 15 would work as well). Thus no conference is favored - and all conferences have a chance of getting into the playoffs if they can be in the top 10 (no unfair conferences with no good teams getting an automatic bid).
4) There are 8 playoff teams. Most likely step #3 will define ~5 of them leaving ~3 wildcards. These wildcards can be any team from any conference. Heck all the wildcards could be from one conference if need be. The wildcards will be selected by the top BCS teams that didn't get an automatic bid from step #3.
5) The quarter finals will be used in the minor bowls in mid December (and rotated yearly). The semi finals and the final will be in the major BCS bowls in late December and early January (also rotated yearly). This will require only 3 major bowls, and the rose bowl when not the national championship game can revert to a pac-10/big-10 bowl. The remaining minor bowls can play teams that don't make it to the playoff system.
6) Slightly alter the BCS to fix some of its current problems. Ie more quality win points for beating teams 10-15, SOS fixes, and a wider variety of computers (instead of all using basically the same formula like they currently are forced to do).

Benefits:
1) This changes very little of the current system,
2) It keeps the conferences and independants as they are,
3) It doesn't add many games to many teams. Only the top teams get one or two extra games. The teams in the national championship game will only play 16 games, teams that make it to the semi finals will only play 15, teams that make it to the quarter finals only play 14.
4) It doesn't lengthen the season past the first few days of January.
5) It is the most fair solution I can think of. Having #1 USC in both polls highlights the unfairness of only having a 2 team playoff that we currently do. Plus if you can't win your conference championship, you really can't claim to be screwed if you just miss the top 8 teams.
6) The bowl system is still largely intact with only a few minor changes.
 
On a related note, dullard, have you posted your rankings for this week? I haven't seen them but it's possible I missed them due to studying for exams.
 
Maybe this would be a good way to "fix" the BCS.

1) Add 3 BCS bowl games. Maybe the Peach, Cotton, Outback... some BIG bowls. This would give us a total 7 BCS bowls.
2) Allow the BCS system - as it is - to select 8 teams to play in 4 bowl games.
3) The winners of these 4 games will go on to play in 2 additional bowl games.
4) The winners of these 2 square off in the final BCS bowl. National title game will rotate between the 7 bowls.

This allows the "money structure" to remain intact, while allowing the BCS system to remain unchanged. The computer will still pick 8 teams. It is hard to imagine a scenario where a #9 team could win the whole thing. Usually, there is a big gap between 1 and 8.

More marquis bowls should also translate into more sponsorship $$$.
 
Dullard's is pretty close to what I was thinking. I'm thinking more along the lines of:

- Conference consolidation: Realign the conferences into 8 conferences of 12 teams each. This allows for 72+ division 1 teams...IMHO not every school can afford to dump all that money on 1A football so we should have fewer teams.
- Conference power ranking: Establish a computerized 'power ranking' for each conference, based on wins/losses of all conf. teams, strength of schedule, total offense etc. that can be used in addition to poll rankings.
- Playoffs: The playoffs would begin with each conference's championship game. The No. 1 and No. 2 teams in each conference would face off. The winner is eligible for Bowl Playoffs. Bowl Playoffs would be a 3 game series...so Bowl Playoffs + Conference Championship = 4 game post-season series.
- Seeding for Bowl Playoffs: This is where it gets tricky. Seeding is based on each conf. Power Ranking and individual team poll rankings. So the conference champion of the number 1 ranked conference would play a lower team from a lower ranked conference. HOWEVER...some high-ranked conferences may have a higher proportion of good teams than a lower ranked conference (Big 10 vs. WAC). Example, the #1 conference 2nd place team might only have 1-2 losses, while the 8th ranked conference champion may have 3-4 losses. In this type of situation, the #2 team in the #1 conference can go to the playoffs if they are higher ranked in polls than the #1 team in a low rank conference.
- Playoffs: So the playoffs start with 8 teams in four bowl games (Rose, Orange, Sugar, Fiesta). Four winners advance to semi-final games, and then to the Final. Winner is crowned college football champions.
 
Originally posted by: SuperCommando
On a related note, dullard, have you posted your rankings for this week? I haven't seen them but it's possible I missed them due to studying for exams.
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I've been so busy at home, that I haven't even run the program yet this week (I have a lot of time to post at school, but the program isn't here). I figured with the bowl games already finalized, that no one would care as much anymore. I'll post them in a day or two, since you want to see them.
 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: SuperCommando
On a related note, dullard, have you posted your rankings for this week? I haven't seen them but it's possible I missed them due to studying for exams.
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I've been so busy at home, that I haven't even run the program yet this week (I have a lot of time to post at school, but the program isn't here). I figured with the bowl games already finalized, that no one would care as much anymore. I'll post them in a day or two, since you want to see them.
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does ur computer rank USC #3 as well, just curious
 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: SuperCommando
On a related note, dullard, have you posted your rankings for this week? I haven't seen them but it's possible I missed them due to studying for exams.
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I've been so busy at home, that I haven't even run the program yet this week (I have a lot of time to post at school, but the program isn't here). I figured with the bowl games already finalized, that no one would care as much anymore. I'll post them in a day or two, since you want to see them.
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Cool, thanks. I'd like to see how the top 3 shake out in your poll. I'd also like to see how Clemson matches up with Tennessee according to your program.

 
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