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My reaction to the U of M anti-war protest

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I saw the protest today. After my Political Science class (where I learned that if a democratic country loses a conflict, its leader faces a 90% chance of removal), I walked through the Diag on my way to my EECS class. Poets were scattered all over the walkways reading their works.

Protesters stood near the brass 'M' and chanted, "Hey Bush! Hey what? You are not my president!"

I kept silent. Quickly, the rage built inside my chest, and I walked into Angell Hall feeling ready to burst. It makes me so happy that my fellow students take advantage of the United States' excellent government-sponsored public education system, and they have the nerve to declare their 'secession' from the country.

These protesters might not like George W. Bush, and they almost certainly disagree with his jingoist rhetoric, but god dammit, they'd better accept the fact that George Bush is their president. I'm sure these protesters would be happier in Canada, or North Korea, or more appropriately, Baghdad. A shout of "Sadaam Hussein, you are not my president!" would assure a protester a spot in a mass grave by that afternoon.

It's a two way street. Take advantage of your right to protest, but declare yourself un-American? It just doesn't make sense to me. I look at these protesters and see leeches on our country. They ride the city busses with me, and they go to state-sponsored classes with me. They even use the same non-gender-segregated drinking fountains as me. But apparently, they think Iraq is fine just the way it is, where none of the previous statements apply if you publicly disagree with the government.

Think twice about all the freedoms and opportunities afforded to you in America. Many of us wouldn't be at the U of M if it cost $65,000 per year. But I think it's a safe bet that many foreigners would gladly pay that sum if they had the money. Their countries simply don't offer the educational opportunities (for any sum of money) that are available to us. Maybe the American government isn't so bad.
 
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Saying that Bush is not your president is not un-American.
If you say "Bush is not my president," you're saying you're not a United States citizen. You're telling me someone else is your president. Don't like it? Go somewhere else.

I don't mean you personally, I mean you collectively. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Saying that Bush is not your president is not un-American.



YES IT IS... HE IS YOUR President unless you are not a citizen of this country.

Are you a LEGAL Citizen of this country......

Then WHOEVER is in the OVAL Office IS YOUR PRESIDENT





:disgust:
 
Originally posted by: jumpr
Also posted on my website:

I saw the protest today. After my Political Science class (where I learned that if a democratic country loses a conflict, its leader faces a 90% chance of removal), I walked through the Diag on my way to my EECS class. Poets were scattered all over the walkways reading their works.

Protesters stood near the brass 'M' and chanted, "Hey Bush! Hey what? You are not my president!"

I kept silent. Quickly, the rage built inside my chest, and I walked into Angell Hall feeling ready to burst. It makes me so happy that my fellow students take advantage of the United States' excellent government-sponsored public education system, and they have the nerve to declare their 'secession' from the country.

These protesters might not like George W. Bush, and they almost certainly disagree with his jingoist rhetoric, but god dammit, they'd better accept the fact that George Bush is their president. I'm sure these protesters would be happier in Canada, or North Korea, or more appropriately, Baghdad. A shout of "Sadaam Hussein, you are not my president!" would assure a protester a spot in a mass grave by that afternoon.

It's a two way street. Take advantage of your right to protest, but declare yourself un-American? It just doesn't make sense to me. I look at these protesters and see leeches on our country. They ride the city busses with me, and they go to state-sponsored classes with me. They even use the same non-gender-segregated drinking fountains as me. But apparently, they think Iraq is fine just the way it is, where none of the previous statements apply if you publicly disagree with the government.

Think twice about all the freedoms and opportunities afforded to you in America. Many of us wouldn't be at the U of M if it cost $65,000 per year. But I think it's a safe bet that many foreigners would gladly pay that sum if they had the money. Their countries simply don't offer the educational opportunities (for any sum of money) that are available to us. Maybe the American government isn't so bad.
Grow a spine and tell it to their face instead of whining about it here from the safe confines of you anonymity. Some of you Psuedo Patriots haven't the spine of those you rail against. Whether they are right or wrong at least they have to balls to express themselves in public instead of looking for a forum with like minded individuals to support your sniveling.
 
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Saying that Bush is not your president is not un-American.
If you say "Bush is not my president," you're saying you're not a United States citizen. You're telling me someone else is your president. Don't like it? Go somewhere else.

I don't mean you personally, I mean you collectively. 🙂

Apparently "Bush is not my president" was too deep for you to understand, since you completely missed what they were trying to say.
 
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Saying that Bush is not your president is not un-American.

Sure it is. If you are an American, he is you President. It is a simple fact. You may not like it, you may not have voted for him, you may not even believe he won the election fairly, but the Supreme Court decided he is the President and there is nothing you can do about it (until the next election that is)
 
Even though I am an immigrant to this nation... I agree with your statements. I'm not lucky enough to be born here.. because of that If I'm ever taken hostage; they wouldn't think twice about killing me. If I were American I would be worth something. I go to a suny school so, I know how that is. People are protesting for no reason (their reason being they want attention) In reality they have nothing to contribute to society except b!tch about it and drink their latte's (which were probably harvested by underpaid farmers in brazil)
 
Originally posted by: KGB
Even though I am an immigrant to this nation... I agree with your statements. I'm not lucky enough to be born here.. because of that If I'm ever taken hostage; they wouldn't think twice about killing me. If I were American I would be worth something. I go to a suny school so, I know how that is. People are protesting for no reason (their reason being they want attention) In reality they have nothing to contribute to society except b!tch about it and drink their latte's (which were probably harvested by underpaid farmers in brazil)
Well KGB in the USA we have a thing called "Freedom of Speech".
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: jumpr
Also posted on my website:

I saw the protest today. After my Political Science class (where I learned that if a democratic country loses a conflict, its leader faces a 90% chance of removal), I walked through the Diag on my way to my EECS class. Poets were scattered all over the walkways reading their works.

Protesters stood near the brass 'M' and chanted, "Hey Bush! Hey what? You are not my president!"

I kept silent. Quickly, the rage built inside my chest, and I walked into Angell Hall feeling ready to burst. It makes me so happy that my fellow students take advantage of the United States' excellent government-sponsored public education system, and they have the nerve to declare their 'secession' from the country.

These protesters might not like George W. Bush, and they almost certainly disagree with his jingoist rhetoric, but god dammit, they'd better accept the fact that George Bush is their president. I'm sure these protesters would be happier in Canada, or North Korea, or more appropriately, Baghdad. A shout of "Sadaam Hussein, you are not my president!" would assure a protester a spot in a mass grave by that afternoon.

It's a two way street. Take advantage of your right to protest, but declare yourself un-American? It just doesn't make sense to me. I look at these protesters and see leeches on our country. They ride the city busses with me, and they go to state-sponsored classes with me. They even use the same non-gender-segregated drinking fountains as me. But apparently, they think Iraq is fine just the way it is, where none of the previous statements apply if you publicly disagree with the government.

Think twice about all the freedoms and opportunities afforded to you in America. Many of us wouldn't be at the U of M if it cost $65,000 per year. But I think it's a safe bet that many foreigners would gladly pay that sum if they had the money. Their countries simply don't offer the educational opportunities (for any sum of money) that are available to us. Maybe the American government isn't so bad.
Grow a spine and tell it to their face instead of whining about it here from the safe confines of you anonymity. Some of you Psuedo Patriots haven't the spine of those you rail against. Whether they are right or wrong at least they have to balls to express themselves in public instead of looking for a forum with like minded individuals to support your sniveling.
I'd rather wait for a proper time, such as a discussion or a debate, to express my opinions. Telling the protesters my thoughts today would have undoubtedly resulted in a heated and unproductive exchange of ideas, and I don't want that.

Plus, I'm more expressive and convincing when my thoughts are written. I get nervous when I have to talk in front of people.
 
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: jumpr
Also posted on my website:

I saw the protest today. After my Political Science class (where I learned that if a democratic country loses a conflict, its leader faces a 90% chance of removal), I walked through the Diag on my way to my EECS class. Poets were scattered all over the walkways reading their works.

Protesters stood near the brass 'M' and chanted, "Hey Bush! Hey what? You are not my president!"

I kept silent. Quickly, the rage built inside my chest, and I walked into Angell Hall feeling ready to burst. It makes me so happy that my fellow students take advantage of the United States' excellent government-sponsored public education system, and they have the nerve to declare their 'secession' from the country.

These protesters might not like George W. Bush, and they almost certainly disagree with his jingoist rhetoric, but god dammit, they'd better accept the fact that George Bush is their president. I'm sure these protesters would be happier in Canada, or North Korea, or more appropriately, Baghdad. A shout of "Sadaam Hussein, you are not my president!" would assure a protester a spot in a mass grave by that afternoon.

It's a two way street. Take advantage of your right to protest, but declare yourself un-American? It just doesn't make sense to me. I look at these protesters and see leeches on our country. They ride the city busses with me, and they go to state-sponsored classes with me. They even use the same non-gender-segregated drinking fountains as me. But apparently, they think Iraq is fine just the way it is, where none of the previous statements apply if you publicly disagree with the government.

Think twice about all the freedoms and opportunities afforded to you in America. Many of us wouldn't be at the U of M if it cost $65,000 per year. But I think it's a safe bet that many foreigners would gladly pay that sum if they had the money. Their countries simply don't offer the educational opportunities (for any sum of money) that are available to us. Maybe the American government isn't so bad.
Grow a spine and tell it to their face instead of whining about it here from the safe confines of you anonymity. Some of you Psuedo Patriots haven't the spine of those you rail against. Whether they are right or wrong at least they have to balls to express themselves in public instead of looking for a forum with like minded individuals to support your sniveling.
I'd rather wait for a proper time, such as a discussion or a debate, to express my opinions. Telling the protesters my thoughts today would have undoubtedly resulted in a heated and unproductive exchange of ideas, and I don't want that.

Plus, I'm more expressive and convincing when my thoughts are written. I get nervous when I have to talk in front of people.
Stage fright huh? Look you have as much right to your opinion as them but if you are just preaching to the Chior what good does it really do? Obviously there are a lot of those who feel as you do. But when you refuse to publicly express yourselves it makes it look as if those with the opinions that you disagree with seem to be the Majority at your school.
 
If Bush is not their president....shouldn't they be leaving and taking a Baldwin or big nose to Europe or somewhere?
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: KGB
Even though I am an immigrant to this nation... I agree with your statements. I'm not lucky enough to be born here.. because of that If I'm ever taken hostage; they wouldn't think twice about killing me. If I were American I would be worth something. I go to a suny school so, I know how that is. People are protesting for no reason (their reason being they want attention) In reality they have nothing to contribute to society except b!tch about it and drink their latte's (which were probably harvested by underpaid farmers in brazil)
Well KGB in the USA we have a thing called "Freedom of Speech".
And by saying "Bush is not my president," whether or not it's directly meant as an anti-American statement, is a refusal to accept the agenda and policies of this land.

Other countries don't have it so great. People there can't say whatever they'd like. If you choose to take advantage of free speech and other opportunities afforded to you as an American, please don't reject the aims and goals of those (our courts, our politicians, and our president, whether or not you like them) whose job it is to protect those freedoms.
 
At UCSD, I have seen these protestors also. I have told them to their faces that they are not American and would have beat the crap out of them if they wanted. I love the freedoms me and family are afforded and very much hate these worthless cocksvckers.

I have no problem if they disagree with the war or even disagree with all of our leader's policies, but the ones with signs like "Bush is not my President", fvck 'em.

 
I dont know about the U of M protest, but the one one here at UCLA was annoying as hell

made me hate the protesters...i was sitting in class when there was supposed to be a "walk-out" and instead of peacefully walking out of class, some idiot had a megaphone and was blaring a siren throughout the building for 15 minutes and yelling "WALK OUT NOW!!!"

i am graduate student here and have finals in like a week and a half and the teacher couldnt prepare us for 15 minutes during our class because of this...argh

rant over
 
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: KGB
Even though I am an immigrant to this nation... I agree with your statements. I'm not lucky enough to be born here.. because of that If I'm ever taken hostage; they wouldn't think twice about killing me. If I were American I would be worth something. I go to a suny school so, I know how that is. People are protesting for no reason (their reason being they want attention) In reality they have nothing to contribute to society except b!tch about it and drink their latte's (which were probably harvested by underpaid farmers in brazil)
Well KGB in the USA we have a thing called "Freedom of Speech".
And by saying "Bush is not my president," whether or not it's directly meant as an anti-American statement, is a refusal to accept the agenda and policies of this land.

Other countries don't have it so great. People there can't say whatever they'd like. If you choose to take advantage of free speech and other opportunities afforded to you as an American, please don't reject the aims and goals of those (our courts, our politicians, and our president, whether or not you like them) whose job it is to protect those freedoms.
I don't think you meant to say they must accept the agenda's and policies of this land to be patriotic. You don't seem that narrow minded too me.
 
Originally posted by: dreamer
At UCSD, I have seen these protestors also. I have told them to their faces that they are not American and would have beat the crap out of them if they wanted. I love the freedoms me and family are afforded and very much hate these worthless cocksvckers.

I have no problem if they disagree with the war or even disagree with all of our leader's policies, but the ones with signs like "Bush is not my President", fvck 'em.

God I love it when a PNG talks tough.
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People have a different opinion that you do and they are allowed to be just as stupid when they express it as you are/have done.
 
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
I dont know about the U of M protest, but the one one here at UCLA was annoying as hell

made me hate the protesters...i was sitting in class when there was supposed to be a "walk-out" and instead of peacefully walking out of class, some idiot had a megaphone and was blaring a siren throughout the building for 15 minutes and yelling "WALK OUT NOW!!!"

i am graduate student here and have finals in like a week and a half and the teacher couldnt prepare us for 15 minutes during our class because of this...argh

rant over

Let me get this straight...

The publicly funded school system FORCED students to look as though they were ALL protesting?

 
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