My Q6600 temps are way too hot

[slayer202]

I've never really paid attention to my cpu temp, as I never suspected any problem. However, while checking some fan problems I realized my G0 Q6600 is running, compared to what I've seen from other people, extremely hot. Stock heatsink, no overclock at all

So I ran to bestbuy and the only thermal paste they have is dynex brand, but I read that compared to the stock paste it's still a big improvement. Anyway, cleaned the cpu and heatsink(stock), applied some paste in the horizontal line like instructed, and my temps are basically exactly the same. I know there is a break-in period, but even if the temp drops a bit, it still seems really hot. Also, I'm confused on why the cores vary in temp like shown in the screenshot. The current temps are still like that.

I'm ready to try removing and reapplying, but something just seems off. The system temp overall doesn't seem to be a problem, if I open up the case and/or crank the fans, the cpu temps don't change

 

[tweakboy]

You gotta be kidding me. When you said way hot I thought 70c to 85c

That is dangerous, But your temps of 40 and 50's load with occasional 60c or 61c

are perfectly normal and fine.

 

[slayer202]

everything I've read through googling shows people idling at like 30, maybe 40 lol. my idle temps are between 50 and 58, not under load. The screenshot was only open for a second to take a screenshot of the idle temps, those maxes aren't accurate. I just hit 67 at about 50% load while opening up portal

 

[slayer202]

results of 5 minutes of bad company 2

 

[jihe]

blow some dust out of your case

 

[tweakboy]

I think what you should do it take off the HSF wipe it clean and put some arctic or thermal

Think about buying a new CPU fan if the reseating doesnt work..

 

[fffblackmage]

everything I've read through googling shows people idling at like 30, maybe 40 lol. my idle temps are between 50 and 58, not under load. The screenshot was only open for a second to take a screenshot of the idle temps, those maxes aren't accurate. I just hit 67 at about 50% load while opening up portal

Are you sure those people aren't using an aftermarket heatsink?

Make sure dust isn't restricting airflow for both the cpu fan and the case fans.

 

[Idontcare]

Real temp incorrectly thinks your TJmax is 100C, it is actually 90C.

Intel published this, all these CPU temp programmer guys know about it and yet they really have no desire to correct the error in their programs.

Your processor reports only its distance to TJmax. The software program takes these numbers and subtracts them from what it thinks the TJmax value is.

If your processor reports that it is 31C from TJmax and Realtemp is programmed to assume the TJmax for G0 Q6600 is 100C then Realtemp will report to you that your CPU's temp is 69C (100C-31C) when it really is only 59C (90C-31C).

The reasoning given for this intentional discrepancy is that the software guys have a choice - they can intentionally report the wrong CPU temp 100% of the time but give you a warm fuzzy about the reported idle temps, or they can correctly compute the CPU temp based on the documented data and CPU reporting but have you be uneasy about the fact that owing to DTS error your idle temps could actually be computed to be below ambient temps.

I'm not kidding, read this thread: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=1953192

Particularly posts 53, 57, 58, and 59.

Bottom line is that if you are personally worried about the reported CPU temp for your Q6600 then you should take 10C of those numbers and then decide if you are still concerned with the CPU temps.

Distance to TJmax is really all you should be concerned with as that is when your CPU will start to thermally throttle and that will impact your performance. But the chip itself is designed to be able to operate at those temps, and then some, so don't allow yourself to become needlessly concerned with CPU temp.

(there are good reasons to be concerned with CPU temp, but none of those reasons appear to apply here in your situation)

 

[Gillbot]

everything I've read through googling shows people idling at like 30, maybe 40 lol. my idle temps are between 50 and 58, not under load. The screenshot was only open for a second to take a screenshot of the idle temps, those maxes aren't accurate. I just hit 67 at about 50% load while opening up portal

Lol, if you believe everything you google then we all need viagra and other "enhancements" too! :biggrin:

Temps depend on the cooling solution, case airflow and ambients. Take many of those results with a grain of salt.

 

[Seero]

People are getting upset with the reading of numbers lately. Those numbers are fine. The amount of heat produced by CPU is a function of the amount of electricity it takes. Depends on whether you have mess with bios and disable all the power saving functions, along with a high ambient temperature (room temp), 50ish is fine. In fact, you still have 50ish degree to go before hitting TjMax, which is what you should care about.

Temperature reading from all those so call real temp, and core temp are inaccurate. Unlike what most believed, those temps are only reasonably accurate as the distance to TjMax is near 0. In other words, it is only accurate when the temperature is dangerously high. Even at that point other than the "distance to TjMax", nothing is accurate as each CPU has a different TjMax. In fact, Tcase (temperature measured at the center of the IHS) is what used to trigger thermal control.

Those TjMax and Twhatever can be a debate to OCers. The bottom line is, when distance to TjMax is high, those temperature readings are unreliable because those diodes are not thermometers. However, the closer it gets to the terminal temperature, those readings off the diodes gets more accurate. Unless your system is throttling, don't worry about those numbers.

 

[slayer202]

Ok, I took off the heatsink to take a couple pictures. As you can see, the paste looks cracked/peeling. Is this normal or a problem? Too much paste, too little? Maybe I didn't get the heatsink straight on at first

Anyway, I cleaned the heatsink as best I could and re-sat it, and my numbers are down a bit, and I was able to run prime95 without getting scarily hot. I'm going to load up bad company 2 and compare to last time

 

[Krynj]

Anything in the 40-50 range is fine for 100% load.

I've kept mine in the 55c range for days on end while rendering some 3D animation. If you're that worried about it, just buy a mid-range CPU cooler and be done with it.

 

[IntelEnthusiast]

Here is a great resource to help you understand where your processor should be running. http://ark.intel.com/ if you pull up the page for your processor and scroll down you will find a listing for the TCASE </SPAN>this is a listing for what the system should detect as max processor temperature, if it is running above this temperature then you are having problems and you need to look at doing something to get this under control. In the case of the Intel&#174; Core&#8482; 2 Quad Q6600 on your stepping look at B3=62.2&#176;C; G0=71&#176;C.
Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team

 

[MrWizzard]

....thats' not even hot. Look how far you have to go to TJmax, nothing to worry about move along move along.

 

[tweakboy]

Fine temps... thx

 

[slayer202]

can anyone comment on the paste? not exactly smooth and kinda spotty. is it worth re-applying?

 

[Zap]

Temperatures look great for a 65nm quad with stock HSF.

 

[fffblackmage]

can anyone comment on the paste? not exactly smooth and kinda spotty. is it worth re-applying?

Looks fine to me. You'll need to reapply TIM since you removed the heatsink....

 

[Krynj]

There is no problem whatsoever with the temperatures in your first post. Put some thermal paste back on, reapply heatsink, and be done with it.

 

[tweakboy]

can anyone comment on the paste? not exactly smooth and kinda spotty. is it worth re-applying?

Dont worry about the paste,, because it will spread over time,, and cover the whole CPU chip.


Some people just put dabs in the middle, and let her spread. Your temps are good my friend btw.

 

[betasub]

Lol, if you believe everything you google then we all need viagra and other "enhancements" too! :biggrin:

Temps depend on the cooling solution, case airflow and ambients. Take many of those results with a grain of salt.

Saved in order to quote in next "o noes I haz teh hot" thread

 

[jiffylube1024]

I've never really paid attention to my cpu temp, as I never suspected any problem. However, while checking some fan problems I realized my G0 Q6600 is running, compared to what I've seen from other people, extremely hot. Stock heatsink, no overclock at all

So I ran to bestbuy and the only thermal paste they have is dynex brand, but I read that compared to the stock paste it's still a big improvement. Anyway, cleaned the cpu and heatsink(stock), applied some paste in the horizontal line like instructed, and my temps are basically exactly the same. I know there is a break-in period, but even if the temp drops a bit, it still seems really hot. Also, I'm confused on why the cores vary in temp like shown in the screenshot. The current temps are still like that.

^ There's your reason. Your temps are totally fine for stock cooling btw, and since you're not overclocking there's no reason to be concerned about temps.

 

[tweakboy]

Yes I agree, Hes good to go. Heat has to happen..thx