He went on about something that had to do with the magazine size of the guns and how they can be fired at a fast rate. I know nothing about the gun(s) used in the shooting. I'm not making this up either lol.
He went on about something that had to do with the magazine size of the guns and how they can be fired at a fast rate. I know nothing about the gun(s) used in the shooting. I'm not making this up either lol.
Since the police cannot be held accountable for not responding in time to be of any help (or at all for that matter), how can you say it's not up to the individual to protect themselves? You realize that if you call 911 and they don't dispatch someone there is nothing you can do right? If you search the net you will find hundreds of cases where police have failed to respond in a timely matter, leaving the victim to deal with the problem themselves. The courts will not allow cases against PD's for failing to respond to a call. Hell, an officer can witness a crime and has NO legal responsibility to help. Most would, but if a mugger shoots you while police watch there is no legal action you can take against them.
Just last year my mother recieved a frantic phone call at work from the wife of a former employee. She was told that her huysban was coming to the office to kill her boss and that they needed to leave immediately. Before they could all get out the man showed up and parked his truck blocking the front door, leaving only one other exit to the building. My mother called 911 and waited inside for police to come and rescue her and the 2 other remaining employees. The police took (sh1t you not) 45 minutes to respond to her location, which was at longest 7-8 mins away while running code. Thankfully the guy only waited 30 mins for someone to exit before leaving, the police never would've been able to help had the the guy had a stonger desire to cause harm. My mother has since demoted the police to the second call she makes and the first goes to someone that actually cares about her well being.
Siddhartha
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Perhaps he knows someone who was shot and killed.
Perhaps he was upset about what happened at his school.
I support the US Constitution but I do think that if there were fewer guns available there would be fewer people getting shot and killed.
I will research to compare US and UK's gun related injury and murder rate.
My econ prof said while the whole thing was tragic, I'm glad to to see that this type of thing is the exception and not the norm, paraphrased of course, he said it better probably... I was sleepy...
So you think it is OK for a professor to use a tragic event to abuse his influence?
No. It is NOT OK.
OP - have you reported this to the media yet? Have you exposed this professor? PM me if you would like me to do it for you. I'd be happy to oblige. Can you get a recording of his abuse of power?
No - I haven't reported this to anyone other than my brother (my roommate) and my parents when they called today. I sit in the front row, and after he made this comment, I really wanted to pack my belongings and head out the door, but it's my most difficult course, therefore I thought it was in my best interest to stick around for the lecture.
Edit - I really wish I would have recorded his lecture
Probably a good move.
Take a recorder tomorrow or a cell phone and record it. Ask a simple question and then let him go off. Then submit the recording. You will be contacted for an interview.
Proper procedure -- am I suppose to ask before I can record? If I have to, then he'll know something is up, and watch what he has to say.
You are free to record notes in an open forum.
I will freely submit your recording on my own behalf and take full responsibility of said action without any trace to you.
I'm serious. I give you my word in trust, my word is my bond.
This Internet posting does hereby agree upon consent to receive a voice and/or video recording from an Internet handle DigitalWanksta in confidence.
Message edited at 12:46 AM EST.
I don't see a problem with what he's saying, it's relatively ambiguous and could easily be interpreted either for or against gun control, all he said was that gun control needs to be changed he didn't specify how.
Just because he said that doesn't mean he is a liberal. Anyone can rant -they dont have to fit into your neat little theories about how the world works.
You are just as much a kneejerk reactionary as his prof. Good job.
zinfamous
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it's a good thing your tin foil brigade will most likely be ignored and laughed down when you bring such "slanderous" evidence to the local media GL there, guys... :disgust:
again, remind me where this professor was infringing on your constitutional right to choose to be in this class--or not be in this class? Or where he was overstepping his?
Remind me again who pays his salary.
Liberals are all about free speach, unless of course it disagrees with them.
f'ing hypocrites.
Are you serious?? If the guy had followed through with his intent to kill the people in the office, my mother would have had no defense and no escape. One exit was blocked and the only other would have been used by the perp, shooting him as he busted in the door seems like a pretty logical move to me.
You seem to be perfectly fine letting an agressor kill you while you wait for the police to show up, but thats not an option for me. Just because you're not man enough to be responsible for your own self defense doesn't mean others are not.
Personal safety is your own responsibility. Thats why the police don't come change the batteries in your smoke detector, put on your bicycle helmet for you or make sure you lock your doors at night. Man up and take care of yourself instead of relying on the system to do it for you please.
angminas
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Thanks for encouraging the average citizen to shoot people as a method of proving the size of their genitals. Also thanks for telling him that he has no right to expect a return on the investment of his tax money. This is sure to keep the number of shootings down. Your wisdom and compassion surpass words, and I'm sure "Man Up" will be the catchphrase that finally leads the human race to lasting peace.
:thumbsup:
amddude
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Police in the US have no legal obligation to protect you. 'Man up' is an ignorant way of saying it, but you should take responsibility for your own safety. Otherwise you are at the mercy of however long it takes the police to show up. I don't intend to be in that category.
I heard this line on the news last night while in my dorm room studying for my Biology exam I'm about to go take this morning. "33 people died at VT because no one else had a gun." It really made me stop and think, there is a lot of truth to that. What if Norris Hall had an armed security guard? What if someone else in Norris Hall was armed? I think there would have been a totally different outcome of this tragedy. I know that you can't look back at the what ifs, but it does really make you think in order to consider trying to prevent something like this from happen again, or at least cutting down the possibility of it happening and making it harder for someone to do something like VT.
How am I encouraging anyone to shoot people??? Since when is shooting someone in self defense not justified? The size of one's genitals has nothing to do with thier desire to live, but thanks for being close minded about it. Also, I am not the one telling you not to expect a return on your tax dollars, the US judicial system is.
I can't believe you're so stupid as to suggest that concern for your own saftey is a bad idea. Being proactive about your security is each individuals responsibility, which is why I compared it to having smoke detectors and helmets.
Edit for spelling.
What is the problem with "Man up" Is it really that ignorant to ask people to be responsible and act like adults, or is there some hidden cult definition of the phrase that I'm not aware of? I intended for it to be defined as being responsible for yourself, but anywho...
Don't let these trolls get to you, Thorny.
If angminas and shadow9d9 were ever to find themselves in a helpless situation against an armed attacker, I'm sure the first thoughts to cross their minds would be something like:
1.) Man, I'm really glad I don't have a gun right now!
2.) I just filed my taxes a few days ago, the police will be here any minute!
3.) Although that axe coming through my front door is a bit disturbing, I could really go for a cup of hot cocoa!
If angminas and shadow9d9 were ever to find themselves in a helpless situation against an armed attacker, I'm sure the first thoughts to cross their minds would be something like:
1.) Man, I'm really glad I don't have a gun right now!
2.) I just filed my taxes a few days ago, the police will be here any minute!
3.) Although that axe coming through my front door is a bit disturbing, I could really go for a cup of hot cocoa!
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