My Prescott system is too darn hot!

[ToadkillerDog]

Well, I knew they ran hot, but my 560 system is heating my room up. Have to keep the A/C running and door open for my comfort or the room becomes uncomfortable. It is like a high powered blowdryer running all the time in my office. Could overclock mostly reliably to 4 ghz, but unstable in a few games and probably throttling so whats the point? I just did not expect THIS much heat. I don't overclock it anymore and it is very stable now, but I am very disappointed JUST for the thermal problems/annoyance factor.

I will be getting an AMD X2 system next year unless Intel miraculously comes up with a better/cooler system.

 

[theMan]

man, shouldnt have gotten that prescott. not a good move.

 

[ryanv12]

I hear that Prescotts are big sellers among DIYers in North Dakota. Now you see why

 

[BillyBobJoel71]

i got one too but i had no choice amd x2 for me next pc.

 

[clarkey01]

6 series run cooler, but ....

The way I see it at the moment: Getting a prescott over an K8 is like not going to a strip bar and saying " I wont go out to the strip bar tonight, I'll get my mother to give me a lap dance, shes a women"..The point being " Yeah...erm...But"

The K8/K9 really has pretty much all the bases covered.

 

[Sentential]

Im not gonna lie, they dissipate a hellova lot of heat. However MINE is not throwing off that much. Perhaps you need a different heatsink?

 

[ToadkillerDog]

It is a case of too many products procucing too much heat. In any case a heatsink will just dissipate the heat into my room as usual. Checked the seal between fan and cpu - looks well applied. Just a combo of hot video card 6800GT, hot cpu and hard drives - two 250gb HD adding up to too much. Got to have a good vid card, I CAN choose a cooler and better designed CPU next go round. I can live with this - it is just really, really annoying. I can see why Prescott is the end of the line for P4's. It does its job, just too hot. Yes, I regret getting this Intel system over an AMD just for the heat problem. Don't get me started on upward mobility issues (there are virtually none discounting a lame move up to 670), either, or I will cry.

 

[imported_whatever]

Originally posted by: Sentential
Im not gonna lie, they dissipate a hellova lot of heat. However MINE is not throwing off that much. Perhaps you need a different heatsink?

no matter what HSF he uses, the same amount of heat will be produced, and therefore the room will get to the same temperature. the only thing that will change based on what cooling is the CPU temp. in fact, using something like watercooling (where there is a pump using a reasonable amount of power) or especially phase change will produce more heat and make the room get even hotter.

 

[Sentential]

Quite true. I am hoping Presler will fix some of these issues.

 

[porkster]

You need to use a thermal pad supplied with the CPU. If you don't use one or thermal paste, you will have very high temperatures. They use Pads as the paste if wrongly applied may get into the socket 775. So be carefull.

It's propably good that you learn how to install the fan and thermal pads as the business world are all going BTX and these type of fan installations. So stay relative to employment opportunities, not behind in technology!

.

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Hmm..... in either case your room's going to be hot. Fortunately I got an older generation prescott (a P4 3.0E 478) and they don't run AS hot as the 5XX series. The 6XX series run quite a bit cooler thogh.

Porkster, i hate to break it to you, but if the OP could overclock to 4ghz stably (in the winter I assume) then obviously he did have a thermal pad/compound on there . So your entire post gets thrown out.

However, no matter if you had Stock, Phase, or XP120.... your room is still gonna get hot, and it'll get even hotter as you get better cooling (more heat => disspates into your room), but whatever. I'd rather keep my processor cool than not cool my processor well to keep my room cool heh.

Fortuantely Intel's investing money in the P-M architecture as NetBurst is seriously flawed (aka look at the Prescott). Hopefully they'll reduce their heat output by then.

I have one good thing to say about my prescott: It keeps my entire floor (floor, not room) warm in the winter). :thumbsup:

-The Pentium Guy

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Sentential
Im not gonna lie, they dissipate a hellova lot of heat. However MINE is not throwing off that much. Perhaps you need a different heatsink?

:roll:

a better heatsink would send MORE heat into the room not less.

what you posted makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[The Pentium Guy]

There's nothing you can do about getting heat into the room... it's the only way to cool your processor. Have you considered leaving a few of your windows open?
Here's what a friend of mine does:

(His computer is on his desk). He takes his desk fan (as tall as his computer) and keeps a window open and blows the air outside

W~FFF~C
W~FFF~C
W F C
F C
DDDDDDDDDDDD
D D
D D
D D

EDIT: NEVER MIND! there's no way I can preserve the formatting. To see what it looks like, hit the "quote" button on my post, and you'll see

D = Desk
C = Computer
~ = Air
F = Fan
W = Window

So all the exhaust from his PC gets blown straight outside. In the winter..... he's a bit more clever

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
There's nothing you can do about getting heat into the room... it's the only way to cool your processor. Have you considered leaving a few of your windows open?
Here's what a friend of mine does:

(His computer is on his desk). He takes his desk fan (as tall as his computer) and keeps a window open and blows the air outside

W~FFF~C
W~FFF~C
W F C
F C
DDDDDDDDDDDD
D D
D D
D D

EDIT: NEVER MIND! there's no way I can preserve the formatting. To see what it looks like, hit the "quote" button on my post, and you'll see

D = Desk
C = Computer
~ = Air
F = Fan
W = Window

So all the exhaust from his PC gets blown straight outside. In the winter..... he's a bit more clever

The problem with that
1) The computer must be on top of the desk and by a window
2) The window must be open
3) It can't rain in, or get too hot or too cold outside

Solution as OP said: dump The Presshot.

 

[ToadkillerDog]

I can live with this. Like I said it is very annoying. When I game, the aluminum case actually becomes quite hot, but even at idle in Windows, the case is warm. Just annoying to have to run A/C just to keep this room comfortable. I did imagine/daydream solutions similar to what others have posted. such as blowing A/C air directly into case, dumping hot air exhaust outside - but all of these solutions are cumbersome or expensive.

Unfortunately, I made my choice. Like I said, the system works well at stock as advertised, but I'm unable to reliably do much more. And yes, there is good thermal paste between the heat sink and cpu.

I've already steered one gamer friend away from a high end Intel solution to AMD - he just isn't an enthusiast about computers at the same time so he hadn't thought these issues through. But I did, and I dismissed the potential downsides when I bought my system. Next year, I will upgrade in a different path than usual. My ASUS motherboard and CPU will all be on EBAY...

 

[imported_bum]

I guess you live and learn... Before I built this system, I'd always hear people talking about silent fans, silent this, silent that. I personally felt all these guys were wusses and it would be no problem for me. Well, jumping from a water cooled shuttle to a desktop with 8 roaring fans makes quite a difference. Luckily I had an old fan controller laying around for when I sleep at night. My next system is probably going to find another case.

ANYWAY...

You could always undervolt a little bit. It sucks to have to do that, but you can decide if it's worth it for yourself. I don't have any experience with Prescotts though, so I'm not sure how effective it would be and how much of a clock hit you would have to take for stability.

 

[MQ]

Mabey Im just lucky or Im getting incorrect readings but my temperatures are: idle 37-39C and load 43-45C for my prescott 3 ghz with stockfan and one casefan. Case temperature is 34-36C. I dont regret getting this CPU at all.

Temperature Proof

 

[AnnoyedGrunt]

OK, once again, the CPU temperature does not reflect the amount of Energy (HEAT) it generates!

Energy (HEAT) and Temperature are NOT THE SAME.

A good heatsink will keep the processor cool, but in order to do so, it is dumping the heat into the surrounding air at the same rate a small heatsink will.

If your processor is using 100W, you will be heating your room with 100W, no matter how big or small your heatsink. If your processor uses 75W, you'll heat your room with 75W, no matter how big the heatsink.

Also, a bigger heatsink does not heat the room faster, because you are still heating with the same amount of energy. All the heatsink does is change the temperature of the CPU. You are always dissipating the same amount of energy.

For conductive heat transfer, the amount of heat is expressed by:
q=-k(T1-T2)
(T1 = temp 1)
(T2 = temp 2)
(q = heat)
(k = thermal conductivity of heatsink)

So, your CPU heat is always q, and your CPU temp will be determined by the conductivity of your heatsink (k). No matter what though, you are always dissipating the same amount of heat.

Now, one other thing to consider is your monitor. If you have a large CRT, it is probably contributing a significant amount of energy to the room as well. If you have an LCD, then the cpu/gpu are the places to look.

-D'oh!

 

[Acanthus]

My prescott system isnt loud at all!

Honestly though this puppy is a furnace if i close the door.

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: MQ
Mabey Im just lucky or Im getting incorrect readings but my temperatures are: idle 37-39C and load 43-45C for my prescott 3 ghz with stockfan and one casefan. Case temperature is 34-36C. I dont regret getting this CPU at all.

Temperature Proof

I would NOT trust Corecenter at all. Totally BS readings . With a friend of mine, when you restart, corecenter jumps by 7 degrees (C) up

Edit: On the helpful side of things - try MBM5

 

[Neurorelay]

That is why I moved to AMD after only 6 months on a 3 ghz Prescott system.

 

[Dothan]

Yeah your Prescott is too hot !!! lol !!!

Why AMD fanatics try to post crap like this ???

Maybe you need to invest in a decent heatsink / fan assembly to cool it then !!!

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Dothan
Yeah your Prescott is too hot !!! lol !!!

Why AMD fanatics try to post crap like this ???

Maybe you need to invest in a decent heatsink / fan assembly to cool it then !!!

And did you read any of the posts above ? And this thread was started by a Preshott owner that didn;t like the heat ! Shut up and go away !

 

[ToadkillerDog]

Originally posted by: Dothan
Yeah your Prescott is too hot !!! lol !!!

Why AMD fanatics try to post crap like this ???

Maybe you need to invest in a decent heatsink / fan assembly to cool it then !!!

You obviously did not even try to read the thread. I have read three of your posts now today and all are geared to infuriate others. If you had EVEN read the prior posts, you would realize it is not the Prescott temp I am compaining about in the end, but the heat dissipation into the room which cannot be changed by a "decent heatsink". I am not an AMF fanatic, to the contrary, I have never owned one. Leave my thread alone, Dothan.

 

[The Pentium Guy]

(He's a troll by the way. A bunch of the forum members think he's the same person as Porkster)