My Pioneer PD-F1007 301CD player won't play CDRWs

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I have 3 of these players. The spec I see at CNET indicates it's "CD-RW Compatible." I have 4 different CDRW copies of music CDs that they won't play. They simply say No Disc when I try to play one of them. They play in my kitchen's Panasonic AM/FM/Cassette/5CD ministereo. Is it just that these Pioneer players don't really support CDRWs? I don't see any mention of CDRWs at Pioneer's pages for this player. Might I find CDRWs that will play in these? I've tried 3 different brands of CDRWs. I've had those probably over 10 years, haven't bought any since. They range from 4x to 10x and 12x writing speed.
 
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sdifox

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+ or -?

If I remember correctly, the - are more cd player compatible. Buy why bother? Just burn CDRs

This is like a timewarp thread, burning cds...
 

Thump553

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What sdifox said. I haven't used CDRWs in at least a decade, but when I tried them it was pretty much hit or miss finding any player that would read them consistently. I'd copy the ones you have to CDRs while you still can.

Follow the Hot Deals forum and you should be able to pick up a 100 spindle of CDRs for five to ten cents each.
 

Muse

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+ or -?

If I remember correctly, the - are more cd player compatible. Buy why bother? Just burn CDRs

This is like a timewarp thread, burning cds...
I didn't know there was + and -. I thought that was for DVDs, like DVD+R and DVD-R.

I use CDRW for temporary things, such as providing a file to the organization I volunteer at (they give me back the disk later), and BIOS and firmware updates, also music CD copies that I am not sure I want to keep. I could burn those to CDR (yes it's cheap), but I'd later have to toss the plastic, I prefer to just do my recycle thing and not throw away the plastic. However, if these Pioneer 301 CD players can't use them I may not buy any more CDRWs. I have maybe 1/2 a dozen of them from years ago.
 

Ketchup

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I would be surprised if that unit would read an RW disc. Use CD-Rs. Dirt cheap. Don't be afraid to toss.
 

NutBucket

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There isn't a + or - when it comes to CDRW; only one type.

Perhaps just closing the session isn't sufficient and you have to close the entire disc?
 

Muse

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There isn't a + or - when it comes to CDRW; only one type.

Perhaps just closing the session isn't sufficient and you have to close the entire disc?
Closing a session vs closing a disc is something I've never understood. I think I've seen messages about stuff like that pertaining to CDRs, but it's boggled my mind because I thought that once written to, you could not write again to a CDR, so what are they talking about? :confused: Anyway, the particular disks that my player aren't playing were written to by imgburn and I think a couple by Nero 6.x.
 

Muse

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There isn't a + or - when it comes to CDRW; only one type.

Perhaps just closing the session isn't sufficient and you have to close the entire disc?
Hey NutBucket, you've got more than nuts in your bucket! I posted a question at Amazon for the player and was informed that they work with CDRW is the disk has been finalized. I don't understand disk finalization, have to investigate ... I wonder if once finalized a CDRW can be rewritten as normal. I assume so or there's be no point in using one... I haven't notices a means of finalizing using imgburn, I'll have to look into that.
 

NutBucket

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IIRC if you close the disc you can't keep writing data to it. It can still be re-written but you would need to erase it first.

If you only close the current session you can keep writing additional sessions until the disc is full.
 

Muse

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IIRC if you close the disc you can't keep writing data to it. It can still be re-written but you would need to erase it first.

If you only close the current session you can keep writing additional sessions until the disc is full.
Yeah, I've never done that, not known how. It's intuitively obvious what the term means. I don't know how it would be used on a practical basis. How would you access additional material. For instance, if it were a music CD with 11 tracks, you can add another and the CD would turn out like a music CD with 12 tracks? Or is it just for specific types of data? I can't remember seeing info for this anywhere. Obviously, I can do a google search and suss it out.

There are music CDs with minimal data, I can't imagine that I could piggy back a couple of these on one disk, though.