My new system. What do you think?

[km23]

6/27/05 - Full System - High Priced

Case: Lian Li PC-61 USB Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811112025
106 + 15.99 + Tax = 131.75

PSU: Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103931
89 + 6.99 + Tax = 103.43

Motherboard: ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131517
189.99 + 0 + Tax = 204.71

Video Card: eVGA 6800GT 256MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130215
315 + 0 + Tax = 339

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103529
475.99 + 0 + Tax = $512.89

RAM: CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145575
226 + 0 + Tax = 243

Hard Drive: Western Digital Raptor - 74G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144160
169 + 0 + Tax = $187.21

Total - $1721.78

NOTE: System is built so that I can add another VC in the future. It also seems
that the system is not built for upgradeability for the future, except for the
aforementioned SLI.

 

[KoolDrew]

Buying an SLI mobo just with the idea to add another 6800GT later makes no sense at all. You would be better off going with a non-SLI mobo and when the time comes sell your 6800GT and buy a new card. The fact that 1 7800GTX performs similair to 2x 6800GT's makes it even more of silly idea.

 

[overst33r]

i would get a 3700 and OC to 4000...

 

[theMan]

i dont think you will be happy with the a8n sli deluxe. a lot of people have been having problems with it. are you overclocking? if so, get a 3700 San Diego, and a dfi ultra-d or sli dr if you must.

 

[LiNoX]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Buying an SLI mobo just with the idea to add another 6800GT later makes no sense at all. You would be better off going with a non-SLI mobo and when the time comes sell your 6800GT and buy a new card. The fact that 1 7800GTX performs similair to 2x 6800GT's makes it even more of silly idea.

I agree, one 7800 GTX would perform better than 6800GT SLI and would not be as loud, consume as much power, etc.

Hmm.. I would love to have a similar setup but there are areas where you can save a lot of money, but it seems that money is not a problem for you

 

[km23]

Lion: the problem with the system is actually the money. If you can help me, I would appreciate that.

Also, how much money do I save getting a non-SLI vs. SLI? I think it may be worth the extra cost to get a board that can be at least upgradeable in the future, when the 6800GT would be cheap by then.

 

[KoolDrew]

SLI is a waste of money and definitely is not a solution for future-proofing. Do you plan on overclocking this rig at all?

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: mariok2006
i would get a 3700 and OC to 4000...

Why a 3700? Lots of people are getting a 3200+ venice and getting it up to 2.4 - 2.6ghz, well beyone a 4000+ I think I would go that route. Or is it all about the l2 cache?

-spike

 

[km23]

I would like to slightly overclock. If I can get the 3700 to 4000, that would be the highest I would like to go.

What fan/heatsink combo would you reccomend to overclock? Out of curiosity, how high could I go without watercooling with this machine?

 

[KoolDrew]

Or is it all about the l2 cache?

That is probably it, but I would rather get a 3000+ and overclock.

What fan/heatsink combo would you reccomend to overclock?

XP-90 with 92mm Panaflo.

 

[Topweasel]

Your Prices seem off. The Price you have matches the Premium which is a much better board on so many angles including overclocking which only the DFI in a crazy setup with 500 memory can touch. But the Link you have is the Deluxe which is about $20 cheaper while filled with features is no where near the overclocker the Premium is. Get the Premium it is worth the Premium.

 

[Mattd46612]

3000+ Venice with that ram will easily get you 2.6ghz. I just picked up my XFX 6800GT for $280 shipped on newegg (it was on sale). So there is a savings of $400. How low do you want to go?

 

[km23]

don't want to do any hardcore overclocking.. more interested in minor overclocking of the 3700 to 4000+

 

[Topweasel]

Still get the Premiom over the deluxe it is worth it and is actually the price you posted above which mean its not going to cost more then you arlready planned.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: Weaselboy
Still get the Premiom over the deluxe it is worth it and is actually the price you posted above which mean its not going to cost more then you arlready planned.

SLI is just a waste of money.

 

[shoRunner]

Originally posted by: Weaselboy
Your Prices seem off. The Price you have matches the Premium which is a much better board on so many angles including overclocking which only the DFI in a crazy setup with 500 memory can touch. But the Link you have is the Deluxe which is about $20 cheaper while filled with features is no where near the overclocker the Premium is. Get the Premium it is worth the Premium.

wow someone just needs to revoke your typing privileges.


3700+ San Diego $325

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123236">epox motherboard nforce4
$106</a>

your case $110

XClio 450w $53

memory 1GBx2 $196

DVD burner $40

7800GTX $599

160GB Hitachi HD $86

~$1500total

and you can very easily clock the 3700 up 200mhz to the speed of the 4000

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: mariok2006
i would get a 3700 and OC to 4000...

:thumbsup:

My 3700+ is running 2.8ghz smooth as silk

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: theman
i dont think you will be happy with the a8n sli deluxe. a lot of people have been having problems with it. are you overclocking? if so, get a 3700 San Diego, and a dfi ultra-d or sli dr if you must.

:thumbsdown:

No problem here for over 8 months, great mobo.

I,ve seen many more dead Ultra-D's than A8N-SLI's

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: shoRunner

Originally posted by: Weaselboy
Your Prices seem off. The Price you have matches the Premium which is a much better board on so many angles including overclocking which only the DFI in a crazy setup with 500 memory can touch. But the Link you have is the Deluxe which is about $20 cheaper while filled with features is no where near the overclocker the Premium is. Get the Premium it is worth the Premium.

wow someone just needs to revoke your typing privileges.


3700+ San Diego $325

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123236">epox motherboard nforce4
$106</a>

your case $110

XClio 450w $53

memory 1GBx2 $196

DVD burner $40

7800GTX $599

160GB Hitachi HD $86

~$1500total

and you can very easily clock the 3700 up 200mhz to the speed of the 4000

Okay so i typed 500 instead of PC5000. Sorry, but while my grammar might not be the best, I know for a fact that what i typed isn't that hard to understand.

 

[Mattd46612]

RMAed my Asus Skt A bored 2x already, Am estatic with my Epox' performance.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: Weaselboy
Still get the Premiom over the deluxe it is worth it and is actually the price you posted above which mean its not going to cost more then you arlready planned.

SLI is just a waste of money.

KoolDrew:

Thats you opinion and while it may hold ground with the thread starter telling me that is a waste. He has a SLI board on his list, a Deluxe version. I was just making sure he knew that his slection seemed off (price) and that their was a better board using the same chipset made by the same manufacturer that and costs the same as the price he posted (which is the worng price for the part he quoted). After that he said he wasn't overclocking, while this is one thing that the Premium is better at it is not the only thing. In fact their are alot a features included in the Asus SLI family that you can't find included in one board outside of these. This is even more the case with with the Premium (rear port SATA connector near the PS2 and USB connectors). My recommendation still holds true and no real reason to argue with me. Recommend a Non-SLI board to him but don't tell me its worthless (their are also other uses for the slot besides SLI so even if you pay attention to the slot alone it is not worthless).

KM23 So again now that i explained this to KoolDrew. If you stick with SLI (which i greatly endorse even if you don't plan on dual vids) and like the Features of the deluxe then i recommend the Premium instead. New features include but not limited to Faster allowance on the memory/FSB, Fanless advanced heatpipe for the chipset which from what i hear is cool to the touch, the easiest SLI configurator (done in bios instead of Jumper blocks or slim flippable card), and integrated external SATA connector in the rear (all he Deluxe does is give you a slot cover where a SATA cable is run through your case to the slot cover and then aloows you to plug a HDD into it).

 

[shoRunner]

i don't think there is any feature that would truely justify the $60+ price difference of the asus sli board over the epox i suggested.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: shoRunner
i don't think there is any feature that would truely justify the $60+ price difference of the asus sli board over the epox i suggested.

:thumbsup:

 

[km23]

Why not spend the extra $50 or so and get a board that supports SLI? when the price of the 6800GT comes to around 100 or so, can just pop one in there. Is SLI really not that good?

 

[Topweasel]

SLI is good for Ultimate gamin but really isn't a great upgrade path. Buy the time a 6800gt hits $100 like you said their will be a card for 200 that will duoble its performance as a single card. Now if you said said I don't have the money to get a second 6800gt right now but i want to get one in couple of months that would be alright. I like SLI i boards because the give you the greatest flexability and in terms of the Premium it also gives the most extensive collection of aditional features then i have ever seen on a board. I think that the extra $50 or even a little bit more is well worth those features and especially if you ever do use the SLI.