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tokie

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Update.

I still do not use soap. My body feels and smells cleaner than ever. I think I focus more on cleanliness now than before with good sponges and exfoliation.

I do use shampoo after every 3-4 day though. Where I live they do not sell natural shampoos so I have issues with dry hair turning greasy etc.

FYI I use deodorant.
 

Fritzo

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Updated pic of Tokie:

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DrPizza

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I always thought that the old homemade way to make soap was to mix (hardwood) ash with lard. The bases in the ash react with the fats to make soap. So, if your skin is covered in oils, why not just skip the middle man & rub ash all over yourself, then rinse yourself off?
 

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I started getting rid of all the chemicals I use on myself.

I use baking soda for shampoo and brush my teeth with it also. Actually works really well and feels very clean. Baking soda works awesome for cleaning things around the house too. And it's super cheap.

I bought some very natural soap on amazon called Olivella for when I bathe. It's very nice.
 

T9D

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Makes sense because baking soda isn't a chemical.

It's just sodium bicarbonate. Pretty basic compound. Not a mass of questionable complex and harsh chemicals. People eat the stuff, don't mind putting it on my head.
 
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uclaLabrat

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Yeah, he's pointing out the stupidity of your comment. People love to imply that "chemicals" are bad. Every thing is a chemical, or made of them. There are good ones and bad ones.
 

T9D

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Yeah, he's pointing out the stupidity of your comment. People love to imply that "chemicals" are bad. Every thing is a chemical, or made of them. There are good ones and bad ones.

It wasn't stupid. When referring to chemicals in products it's typically and almost always meant harsh commercial ones in context of health. Geez don't be an arse and start attacking people.

Plus it didn't mean that one thing exclusively. It was a general comment. I'm cutting back on the amount of Chemicals and types in my life. By changing to natural olive oil soap and baking soda alone I've cut out dozens of harsh chemicals.
 
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It wasn't stupid. When referring to chemicals in products it's typically and almost always meant harsh commercial ones in context of health. Geez don't be an arse and start attacking people.

Plus it didn't mean that one thing exclusively. I'm generally cutting back on the amount of Chemicals and types. By changing to natural olive oil soap and baking soda I've cut out dozens of harsh chemicals.

You'd be amazed the kinds of harsh chemicals a mammal can produce.

Thinking specifically of the kind of stuff my cat leaves on the carpet, right? But your body actually produces 2HO, HCl, and NH3 in various amounts. Among other stuff.

It's not what chemical is used, it's the amount and what part of the body is exposed. Which is why a dollop of shampoo on your head for a few minutes is fine, but don't drink the bottle.

That said, yes - many personal care products take "better living through chemistry" a little too far and people with sensitive skin will be happier with products that are not able to clean the rust off a trailer hitch.
 

Ruptga

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OK, so what qualifies as harsh? It is completely subjective. Furthermore, "natural" is completely useless when describing products. Salmonella, ticks, and rot are all 100% natural and almost universally bad.
 

Fritzo

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OK, so what qualifies as harsh? It is completely subjective. Furthermore, "natural" is completely useless when describing products. Salmonella, ticks, and rot are all 100% natural and almost universally bad.

I like to point out to people like that that uranium is natural, but you don't see me brushing my teeth with it :D
 

edro

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OK, so what qualifies as harsh? It is completely subjective. Furthermore, "natural" is completely useless when describing products. Salmonella, ticks, and rot are all 100% natural and almost universally bad.
I brush my teeth and wash my hair with rotting ticks and salmonella.
 

evident

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I generally use soap on my genitals, butthole, and armpit. If it's just sweat on the rest of the body, you should be fine using only water.

Speaking of butthole, people do not fully wipe after taking a dump. I can smell that shit. That's why, if I can, I personally shower and wash after every shit. If I'm somewhere I can't, I'll wipe with the dry toilet paper as much as possible, then I'll wet the toilet paper to the rest of the smear (quick dash to the sink).

I'm not sure why bidets aren't widespread in the US. you're absolutely right and it's nasty.
 

BladeVenom

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I always thought that the old homemade way to make soap was to mix (hardwood) ash with lard. The bases in the ash react with the fats to make soap. So, if your skin is covered in oils, why not just skip the middle man & rub ash all over yourself, then rinse yourself off?

They way I've seen it done, is use ash to make lye. Filter water through the ash to get the base, and then boil the water to concentrate it.
 

FeuerFrei

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OK, so what qualifies as harsh? It is completely subjective. Furthermore, "natural" is completely useless when describing products. Salmonella, ticks, and rot are all 100% natural and almost universally bad.

It's now gotten so bad product labels will describe select ingredients as "naturally-occurring" when they were actually synthesized in a lab :)eek:) - because it's cheaper that way. Of course everything man concocts is derived from elements or compounds found here on earth. Time to throw the whole term out the window.
 

Ruptga

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It's now gotten so bad product labels will describe select ingredients as "naturally-occurring" when they were actually synthesized in a lab :)eek:) - because it's cheaper that way. Of course everything man concocts is derived from elements or compounds found here on earth. Time to throw the whole term out the window.

I completely agree, and that doesn't even touch on things like "100% natural whole grains" that were bred and groomed by humanity for thousands of years. But, that argument is a lot harder to explain to, uh, slow people, so I generally prefer to point out bad things that are also natural.
 
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I completely agree, and that doesn't even touch on things like "100% natural whole grains" that were bred and groomed by humanity for thousands of years. But, that argument is a lot harder to explain to, uh, slow people, so I generally prefer to point out bad things that are also natural.

Those selectrively bread "natural" whole grains are delicious, though.