My modded X800XT/PE Lives!!!

WA261

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Awesome to see the work of VJ. Card is in beeautiful shape now. =)
 

fstime

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If you can afford $200 in simply modding the card, it would seem you could buy another one.
 

WA261

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I can, but that is not the point. This card was amazing. I had 2 other X800's that could not come close to the clocks of this one. This card was my baby! :(

I am buying a new vid card once they are released...when ever the hell that is.
 

Appledrop

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oh good. thought you were going to say it just crapped out like ati had said the pro -> xt modded cards would after a while (mine hasnt yet although i had a scare a week or so ago where i had artifacts on bootscreen, but rebooted and disappeared, and hasnt ever happened againt :l)
 
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Any water, distilled or not will short out and fry out any electronics that it hits.
It also proves that there is alot of risk in using a phase change system.

The End
 

leegroves

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Why would distilled H2o not fry ur card???
Tell me what mods u did to ur card.... want to mod mine too
 

WA261

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I sent it to Viper John for the vmods and stuff.

The MACH II did does not use water like an H2o rig. I was jsut saying that I had distilled water leak on a card in the past. I also thought water would fry anything it touches, but I have read many threads about water leaking onto video cards (distilled) and the card not being damaged. I have even had it happen to me (water on vid card) and it did not short out or anything.

Yes mineral oil will work, but you can only get ambient temps.
 

WA261

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I have not lost all hope with it. I am sending it back to Viper John to see if he can revive it ;)
 

Cheesetogo

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I'm pretty sure that pure h20 is not conductive; the particles in water is how water can be conductive.
 

RussianSensation

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Originally posted by: WA261

This was no ordinary card mind you...I put around $200 in vmods and cooling on this thing. It WAS the 2nd fastest X800XT/PE there is @ 693/652. The little sucker scored 7714 in 05..kickass for a single card, and an x800 at that. Only a couple 850's beat me and SLi cards..no single Nvidia came close

Sounds like a great accomplishment. Of course when hardware is pushed to the limit, you should be aware of all the possible risks that your changes bring about (ie watercooling, phase-change cooling problems, overvolting, overheating, etc). Again, I figure when you pushed it you were comfortable with the worst outcome. Sorry to hear about it though...Do you know why the condensation occurred? Did you not install it properly? Maybe that is what you should be concerned with for your next endeavour so that the same problem does not recur.
 

NeoV

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while the card was certainly nice, why the hell are you putting $200 dollars in mods onto the card for minimal performance gains?

An 800XT/PE runs plenty fast with no mods
 

glorygunk

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Originally posted by: NeoV
while the card was certainly nice, why the hell are you putting $200 dollars in mods onto the card for minimal performance gains?

An 800XT/PE runs plenty fast with no mods


Cuz the guy has money to burn!

His "second" rig is a helluva lot faster than my first! Plus he has another two x800 on the side!!!
 

fuzzynavel

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Originally posted by: leegroves
Why would distilled H2o not fry ur card???
Tell me what mods u did to ur card.... want to mod mine too

Highly purified water not just distilled but de-ionised using an exchange column shouldn't be able to short out your board in theory as there are no ions to transmit/carry the charge....but in reality as soon as the water hits your board it will probably start picking up dust etc and will then be able to carry a charge...

 

TankGuys

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Originally posted by: fuzzynavel
Originally posted by: leegroves
Why would distilled H2o not fry ur card???
Tell me what mods u did to ur card.... want to mod mine too

Highly purified water not just distilled but de-ionised using an exchange column shouldn't be able to short out your board in theory as there are no ions to transmit/carry the charge....but in reality as soon as the water hits your board it will probably start picking up dust etc and will then be able to carry a charge...


Exactly.

For this reason I'm still not comfortable trying water cooling on my own machine. We sell a few water-cooling systems, and I'm sure they work well. However, I'm just a bit too nervous about mixing water and electronics still.

running mineral oil would work but you get less effecient heat transfer. There might be some non-conducting refridgerants you might be able to use as well, but I imagine you'd run into the same issue of leaked liquids picking up ambient materials to allow them to conduct...

 

WA261

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Originally posted by: NeoV
while the card was certainly nice, why the hell are you putting $200 dollars in mods onto the card for minimal performance gains?

An 800XT/PE runs plenty fast with no mods



Becuse it was fun to see what a single card could do. Once I get my hands on a new G70 (should be released 1st) it will also be vmodded and taken to its limits. :D
 

Ackmed

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Originally posted by: Kensai
Any water, distilled or not will short out and fry out any electronics that it hits.
It also proves that there is alot of risk in using a phase change system.

The End


Not true. I have have drips from my watercooled systems, and it landed on the card. The card was fine.
 

WA261

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Yeah, it is strange how sometimes the card is fine and others (liek this time) the card fries. I wonder why...

I will post pics of the card tomorrow. I took it to my office today to ship it out, but have yet to send it off..so I can still take a few. :)
 

ZimZum

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The OP said that condensation formed and dripped on the card, which caused the short. Not the cooling liquid itself. Water from condensation can easily be dirty enough to carry a charge.
 

ddogg

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damm that was some overclocking on that. must have been a beast, sorry to hear about your loss.
 

Ackmed

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I know what the OP said. I was correcting someone that said, "Any water, distilled or not will short out and fry out any electronics that it hits" This is simply not true. Sometimes it does, some times it doesnt.
 

WA261

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Odd how that works. I have been told distilled is not conductive, but I just cant see how it cant transfer. I mean I have had a card live through an accident, but I have no idea why. I was shocked when it came back up on a new mobo.
 

bcoupland

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For all of you guys talking about water carrying a charge, keep in mind that this guy has a Prometeia which is phase-change (sub-zero temps.) and doesn't use water as a coolant.

Edit: Oh, i see that condensation hit the card, not the coolant itself.