My manager just told me it was my last day of work here

[GundamW]

You still have the work phone number of your friends at work right?
Call them during work hour, tell them what happened, say thanks and bye.
Sucks the way it happened. Nothing you can do. Don't dwell on it. Move on.

 

[tm37]

This is one of the things I never understood. Employees giving 2 weeks, but employers not.
and by that I mean that why do people give two weeks. It takes about 30 days to hire people. (two weeks to find them and then they give two weeks)

 

[BoomerD]

This is one of the things I never understood. Employees giving 2 weeks, but employers not.
and by that I mean that why do people give two weeks. It takes about 30 days to hire people. (two weeks to find them and then they give two weeks)

Yep, and this is why I don't get why everyone thinks you should give 2 weeks notice if you quit. They damned sure don't give you 2 weeks notice when they lay you off or fire you.

I've only given 2 weeks notice a couple of times in my life. One time, I was fired on the spot, ("oh, well then, just go to the office and get your pay. I don't need you.") Most of the time, if I know in advance that I'm quitting, the boss gets told at quitting time on my last day. ("oh, by the way, I won't be here on Monday. I have another job to start. Call the hall.")
Of course, folks who've known me well over the years, knew that for the last 5-6 years of my construction career, if Boomer showed up to work with a Hawaiian shirt...it was his last day. (Aloha means hello and goodbye) ()

 

[alkemyst]

I give two weeks if they took care of me, otherwise I just don't show up....profit!

 

[SKORPI0]

Quit a job a few years back after my manager told me that "she did see any future for me in the company and how I'll fit with the changes are are coming". Told her I'll be giving my 2 weeks but didn't bother to show up the next day, a Tuesday. Workplace didn't have anyone to replace me (Stock/Inventory Manager) so not sure how they dealt with that, like I cared at that time. Was paid 3 weeks vacation pay and bonus pay due me. Found a less stressful job, similar pay/benefits after 10 days. Heard over the grape vine that place what not the same and associates under me also quit after a few days/weeks. Female manager was fired after a few months.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I hate that too. As an employee you are expected to give 2 weeks and leave on good terms or they'll just make your life miserable by making it impossible for you to find another job, meanwhile they can just turn around and screw you over any time they wish.

If I was to quit my job I'd give my 2 weeks but I can guarantee I would not be very productive during those two weeks. It's scary though, the job market right now sucks, especially IT related jobs. Most IT level jobs are entry level PC support at places like futureshop. So if I lost my job I would be very screwed. I keep contemplating on studying another field on my spare time. There are way more jobs in trades with all the new buildings/houses going up.

 

[Engineer]

There are way more jobs in trades with all the new buildings/houses going up.

Uh, new houses?

Edit: Is the Canadian housing market better than the US at this moment?

 

[BoomerD]

Uh, new houses?

Edit: Is the Canadian housing market better than the US at this moment?

I hope so. It's pathetic around here. hell, even houses that have been started are sitting unfinished because they can't sell them.

 

[Imp]

Uh, new houses?

Edit: Is the Canadian housing market better than the US at this moment?

Absolutely. In Vancouver, BC there are bungalows going for $1 million, and that's as cheap as you can get in certain areas. In Toronto, ON, row houses on 10'x80' lots go for $500k starting, and 1 bedroom condos start at $350k. Meanwhile, condos are springing up everywhere and being snatched up by foreign investors! And I believe that the guberment owned Canadian Mortgage and Housing Corporation is insuring hundreds of billions in mortgages (the ones banks won't touch when you don't have 20% down, but have the 5% minimum) with less than $10 billion in real assets (... something like that). We're totally not going to end up like the US of A!!!


Back to the main topic, yep, two weeks notice. Done out of "respect" (read: fear) so that your employer doesn't completely f*ck you over.

 

[mmntech]

Just to be cleared, sounds like the OP was laid off, not fired. There's a difference.

Anyway, if you're pissed off at this behavior, blame society. We've just come to accept these sorts of shenanigans as part of "life." You're just a tool to these people, or an obstacle, not a person. Never forget that. That's why they do cowardly things like this.

I'm going under the assumption that they're not giving you severance BTW.

 

[Specop 007]

Just to be cleared, sounds like the OP was laid off, not fired. There's a difference.

Anyway, if you're pissed off at this behavior, blame society. We've just come to accept these sorts of shenanigans as part of "life." You're just a tool to these people, or an obstacle, not a person. Never forget that. That's why they do cowardly things like this.

I'm going under the assumption that they're not giving you severance BTW.

Society became that way after having to worry some bitter, shallow employee would decide to make a point and screw up the network or database or sales records or anything else they could before leaving.

Never forget that. Childish actions from employees who werent walked out immediately is why they do things like this.

 

[MotionMan]

Did they show up at the wedding?

No. Good thing, because I would have had them removed.

MotionMan

 

[MotionMan]

No they did not offer a severance. :\

That's crap. Sorry about that.

MotionMan

 

[Specop 007]

"Finland is highly productive in scientific research. In 2005, Finland had the fourth most scientific publications per capita of the OECD countries.[76] In 2007, 1801 patents were filed in Finland.[77]"

Their students are infinitely smarter than American students (they rank much higher in Maths/Sciences than we do, i think they were #1 in each). And this is with a society whose teachers are 99% unionized.

They have a much lower economic inequality than we do.

Also lower unemployment:

http://www.google.com/publicdata/ex...ty:sa&dl=en&hl=en&q=finland+unemployment+rate

You are dumb. And only in America can you find idiots such as yourself sucking corporate dick while cheering the ass whooping of the working man.

Like I said. They dont even make a footnote entry in the Big Book of Science. Oh, equality. Yay! If I need to sit around singing kumbaya with a bunch of broke hippies I guess I know where to go.

 

[manimal]

What if your old employer gave you the option to stay but at a greatly reduced rate say the same amount they were going to pay for the outsourcing?

 

[Howard]

I didn't think it was normal to give people notice before firing them.

 

[Newbian]

What if your old employer gave you the option to stay but at a greatly reduced rate say the same amount they were going to pay for the outsourcing?

They wouldn't be able to do that as there is a minimal wage here and they will be making a lot less where it's being sent.

 

[MotionMan]

I didn't think it was normal to give people notice before firing them.

That is (or, at least, should be) one of the differences between laying someone off and firing them.

MotionMan

 

[BUTCH1]

That is (or, at least, should be) one of the differences between laying someone off and firing them.

MotionMan

Another is unemployment benefit eligibility, laid off means you will get benefits without any issue, if one is fired a "reason of separation" is required and both parties have a right to an appeal any decision. If someone got fired for say poor attendance it might hurt their chances for collecting benefits, it appears OP should not have any problems as his separation was not due to rules violations, they just found a cheaper alternative..

 

[the DRIZZLE]

i'm not kicking anyone when they're down. i'm bringing reality back to the forefront.

i'm sorry, but EXPECTING a 2 week notice when you get FIRED... is laughable.

I've worked for many companies, been involved in both ends of the firing and layoff process.

The only time you can EVER expect any notice when you're being laid off... is when it's covered under the WARN act... and even that has limits

If he quit without notice people would be (rightly) calling him unprofessional. The guy worked there for four years, he should get two weeks notice or two weeks pay in lieu of notice. It's the decent and professional thing to do.

 

[guyver01]

It's the decent and professional thing to do.

except business doesn't operate on the 'decent and professional' principal.

 

[Kaekae]

Hey ATOT,

Thanks for your replies. All your feedback is great whether it's positive or negative or downright hilarious.

To be perfectly clear I was not fired, but laid off. Therefore I should be able to collect unemployment without a problem, my manager made me listen to that very carefully because he knew that I wouldn't have a problem collecting only if I acted fast. That night I had filed my claim. Also, I did not receive any severance pay and I didn't expect it. The owners are cheap, always have, always will, just the way they are.

So................I'm unemployed. What do I do? Am I embarrased? How do I pick myself up? Well, first of all the responses from my family and my wifes family has given me so much confidence. They are actually happy for me because they thought I should of been working for Northrup Gruman or Lockheed Martin instead. They are sending me all sorts of applications for me to apply to and it's just so cool for them to be so helpful. They have given me some positive reinforcement for sure.

What am I going to do with all this down time in between interviews? Well, I'm going to work out like crazy. I'm going to eat super healthy, since my wife and I decided to live on a tighter budget until I get a salary again. I'm going to get in tip top shape and feel super confident going into those interviews and feeling alpha. Also lifting weights and running has been a great way to keep my mind off my mixed emotions and just an overall way of releasing stress. I'm also going to surprise my wife and clean out the closets of all the old clothes and old misc items I've collected that she has always asked me to clean out. She will surely love this!

I feel very good right now ATOT, I may not have a job and I initially felt surprised by the lay off. But I am ready to start a new life. And at the age of 27, I feel like I am in my prime to really do new and better things.

 

[ProfJohn]

Number 1 item of advice for newly unemployed:

cut back your expenses NOW!

You may think that all your experience and capability may land you a job quick, but with this economy it could be months. So cut back and try to live as cheap as possible.

 

[lowrider69]

From the moment I was hired, both the owner and co-owner told me this was very much a family feel work environment and for the most part that was true for my 4 years.

Never believe that bullshit. Never consider your coworkers as family because they're not. I don't care if you drink beer together with them and they come to your wedding, they're not family. They'll vanish as fast as your job does. It's always money and that's the bottom line. It's the corporate environment, it's the way it is. Some people love it, a lot of people learn to get used to it, other people dislike it. I've never gotten canned but I saw the writing on the wall at the last place I worked at and they weren't a small company by any means. I know people who put 20+ years into their jobs and got shafted in a similar fashion. All you are is an ass in a seat to them. That's part of the reason I will not break my ass for anybody else except for myself now. That's also a big reason why many people in general go and do their own thing.

 

[Koing]

At the ibanks/ brokers they fire you before bonus time...perfectly legal.

You get a call, some guy sees you walking off then calls IT to disable your accounts, you come back from your meeting to collect a few things and are escorted off the building. Everything on your desk is packed and sent to your address.

You are still paid your 4 weeks notice though even though you are not working.

If you hand in your notice you either work 4 weeks notice or get 4 weeks gardening leave. Sent home to chill out paid but you are not allowed to work for someone else. If you are more front office it's usually 3months notice!

It's always scared me to not work my notice period after I hand in my notice period. I haveyet to get gardening leave. The working my notice period blows...I'm on auto wind down and the last place I had to work to work extra hrs for 2 weeks...granted my boss would have me back at any time.

Boomer love the hawaian shirt style on your last day.

My mate is an it contractor and always goes out in style giving management a piece of his mind lol. He never works his 2 weeks notice. He just doesn't go back lol

Koing