My manager just told me it was my last day of work here

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Rage187

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Company i used t work for would do big network installs that would take 7-8 people a weekend to knock out.

We knew someone was getting fired when they would ask a worker to drive their company truck plus their tools to the site instead of flying.

They'd work you like a dog all weekend and then you got laid off and a plane ticket to fly home. They were ruthless.
 

Rage187

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I was working as a law clerk for a sole practitioner (His father was a good friend of my (now) future father-in-law). He fired me three days before my Bar results came out and 8 days before my wedding.

I heard from a secretary that his wife did not want the added expense of paying me as a lawyer.

BTW, they were invited to the wedding, had never RSVP'd and did not give a give (except, of course, my walking papers).

MotionMan

Heh, I got laid off a week before my wedding too. Best thing that ever happened to me though.
 

guyver01

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kicking the man when he's down? :\

i'm not kicking anyone when they're down. i'm bringing reality back to the forefront.

i'm sorry, but EXPECTING a 2 week notice when you get FIRED... is laughable.

I've worked for many companies, been involved in both ends of the firing and layoff process.

The only time you can EVER expect any notice when you're being laid off... is when it's covered under the WARN act... and even that has limits

The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act

WARN offers protection to workers, their families and communities by requiring employers to provide notice 60 days in advance of covered plant closings and covered mass layoffs. This notice must be provided to either affected workers or their representatives (e.g., a labor union); to the State dislocated worker unit; and to the appropriate unit of local government.

In general, employers are covered by WARN if they have 100 or more employees, not counting employees who have worked less than 6 months in the last 12 months and not counting employees who work an average of less than 20 hours a week. Private, for-profit employers and private, nonprofit employers are covered, as are public and quasi-public entities which operate in a commercial context and are separately organized from the regular government. Regular Federal, State, and local government entities which provide public services are not covered.
 
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lxskllr

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i'm not kicking anyone when they're down. i'm bringing reality back to the forefront.

i'm sorry, but EXPECTING a 2 week notice when you get FIRED... is laughable.

Except he wasn't fired. It's a semantic difference, but still distinctly different. You're fired when you will be replaced by someone else doing the same job. You're laid off when the position won't be filled again for whatever reason.
 

guyver01

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You're fired when you will be replaced by someone else doing the same job. You're laid off when the position won't be filled again for whatever reason.

my manager told me they were letting me go and hiring an outside vendor to handle their clients databases and files

they did replace him with someone else doing the same job.

granted its a contractor... but his position isn't being eliminated.
 

lxskllr

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they did replace him with someone else doing the same job.

granted its a contractor... but his position isn't being eliminated.

It's being eliminated as an in-house option. That's like replacing an autoworker with a robot. It isn't accurate to say that worker was fired. Corporate culture was drastically changed, and there wasn't a place for that worker anymore.
 

MtnMan

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Two week notices are for when you quit.

Firings are immediate.

That life..............



then you die.................
 

BUTCH1

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Except he wasn't fired. It's a semantic difference, but still distinctly different. You're fired when you will be replaced by someone else doing the same job. You're laid off when the position won't be filled again for whatever reason.

Fired, laid off, replaced, in the employers eyes it's all the same, no way they are going give notice, even more so in IT where a few keystrokes could cause big trouble. We had a guy at my job (line mechanic) who gave 2 weeks notice only to be told, "leave, now". When I worked for Swift meats in 1990 they closed our branch even though it was profitable, shipping everything from Orlando was going to save $$ vs keeping a small branch open, they gave us 3 weeks notice, wanted us around to help load inventory on trucks, everyone stayed and it was open season for stealing, I had a fridge/freezer loaded with 109 prime rib, tenderloins and strips, fuck it, bulk beef was on, they were closing us anyway. Final LOL was the Orlando branch lost over half of the Daytona accounts within a month, we gave good service and strove to make them happy, Orlando didn't give a crap..
 

Specop 007

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Thats exactly how it works. No manager worth their salt would risk damaging the network infrastructure for the sake of giving you 2 weeks notice.
 

ProfJohn

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Last time I was let go as I was walking out the door my boss asked for my log on and password.

Should have told him "I forgot" and kept walking.

He would have to call corporate to have them reset the password or create a new account etc etc. Would have been a pain in the ass since my boss couldn't use our system for crap and could only look at reports and stuff.
 

lehtv

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Sucks to work in the United States. Over here in Finland, it's against the law to fire anyone without a two week notice. If you've worked in your position for at least 4 years, you receive a two month notice. OP, had you been working in Finland, you'd be working until early December ;)
 

Specop 007

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Sucks to work in the United States. Over here in Finland, it's against the law to fire anyone without a two week notice. If you've worked in your position for at least 4 years, you receive a two month notice. OP, had you been working in Finland, you'd be working until early December ;)

Sucks to be a business owner in Finland. Might be why Finland produces nothing of note. ;)
 

LikeLinus

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I was a database administrator for a small privately owned mail advertising company in Baltimore.

But yesterday at the end of the day, my manager told me they were letting me go and hiring an outside vendor to handle their clients databases and files. Along with managing their client's data, I also presorted their mail lists for our mailings.

What really irked me was they didn't give me a 2 week notice or not even a week notice for that matter. He had waited for mostly everyone to leave the office before telling me and he watched me pack my things and pack my car up.

There were only a few of my co workers still left, but I didn't even get a proper chance to tell them goodbye and shake their hands. I felt like it was very unprofessional of what happened.

And the most disgusting thing of all.........the owners and the accountant responsible for making this decision had left the office early today because they are cowards. They couldn't even thank me for the 4 years that I had given to their company.

In the end this was probably the best thing to happen to me in terms of finding out what type of personalities they really had and I will do my best to find a job working with decent human beings.

Just had to vent ATOT and I feel better already! :)

This must be your first job and you don't know how the real world works. Expecting 2 weeks notice that you are being terminated? LOL.

Here's the best part.....

"They couldn't even thank me for the 4 years that I had given to their company."

Did you thank them for paying your salary and giving you benefits for the past 4 years? They did their part. They don't owe you thanks.
 

HeXen

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it was cause you may go postal and start a shooting spree.
 

Kaekae

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This must be your first job and you don't know how the real world works. Expecting 2 weeks notice that you are being terminated? LOL.

Here's the best part.....

"They couldn't even thank me for the 4 years that I had given to their company."

Did you thank them for paying your salary and giving you benefits for the past 4 years? They did their part. They don't owe you thanks.

I was going to thank them for the opportunity to work there and look them in their eyes and shake their hand. I really enjoyed my time there as an employee. From the moment I was hired, both the owner and co-owner told me this was very much a family feel work environment and for the most part that was true for my 4 years. But they did hire managers that totally changed the atmosphere and culture and in the end I think that played into the decision of hiring an outside vendor instead of keeping my work in-house. That's only speculation of course.

It was my first job out of college, but I did have a lot of great times working there and it's sad that they can't afford to keep my job in-house. My manager said though he was going to give me a great referral for my next employee. So that at least is as close as a "thank you" as I got.
 
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I work for an IT company that specializes in providing IT services. It's a small, privately owned company, so it's not that big. In my 5 months there, however, I've seen us put a few people out of work. A lot of companies still withhold an on-site IT employee, but others have let their guy go as soon as they brought us onboard.

Sorry to hear about the job loss OP, maybe consider coming to the dark side of IT support. :)