My impressions of Ryzen R7-1800x

guskline

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I have enjoyed the various threads on Ryzen and thought I would give my impressions of Ryzen R7-1800x so far.

As you can see from my signature I'm running a 5960x@4.4Ghz with GTX1080 and a second machine with a 6700k@4.6Ghz and a GTX980TI SC. I previously had a 4790k but sold it in anticipation of an AMD Ryzen build.

I have 2 RX480 gpus to go along with the Ryzen cpu so I wanted an all AMD cpu/gpu build.

I decided going "whole hog" on a R7-1800x and an Asus Crosshair VI mb. I wanted to do custom water cooling and got a Thermaltake V51 case to house 2 360mm rads, an EK Supremacy Evo cpu block and an EK D5-140 pump/res combo. I ordered ahead a Corsair 480G NVMe M.2 2280 ssd, 16 g (2x8) of Gskill DDR4-3200 Trident Z ram. I also ordered a new Win 10-32/64 OS on a USB stick (glad I did since you can re-install).

Everything came in except the Asus C6H mb.

I pre-ordered it from Amazon and am waiting like the rest of you for it. Looks like the wait will be long.

Since all of my other parts were in last Friday 3-3, including the cpu, I got "antsy" realizing the wait could be long for the mb.
I decided to take a drive down to the St. David's MicroCenter (@1 hour 15 minutes one way) to see what they had if any X370 mbs. When I called they said a customer had returned a MSI Titanium X370 mb and they would knock $50 off the price. When I got there Saturday afternoon, I talked to a tech who obviously knew and worked with Ryzen, said he had been playing with it for a week. He said the returned MSI X370 Titanium mb had a bricked BIOS and was DEAD. He had no Asus C6H mbs in but warned the one he had earlier also bricked the BIOS.
I was disappointed but he showed me the Asus Prime B350 Plus mb. It did support Crossfire albeit at a lower rate and the sale price was @$100. It was a basic mb but supported M.2. and CrossFire technology with the 350 chipset. I had a $50 gift card and after buying a 2 year replacement warranty for $20, I spent out of pocket $$$ of @$66. Thought it was worth a try.

Well, when I got home later, after dinner I started on the mb. I tried my custom water block but could not get the system to boot (even have the new AM4 backplate from EK). I was honestly a little bummed but remembered I had a fairly new Corsair H110i GT AIO (280mm rad) and much to my delight, the AMD mounting bracket uses clips that attach to the two mb mounts. I decided to use my Fractal Define S case which was used for the 4790k build and I was starting to make progress. I mounted the M.2 2280 ssd, had never used one of those, installed the 2-8g ram chips, installed both Rx480s, my EVGA 850w psu and fired it up. It booted fine. I installed the Windows 10 USB stick and the install went well.

This "cheap" Asus mb was at least giving me a glance of Ryzen. Obviously, I flashed to the newest BIOS for that mb and all went well. I had installed Asus Suite and was able to OC to 3.8 on all cores but went back to stock. It runs at either 3.6 or 3.7 on all cores and actually 2 cores go to 4.1. All stock. I uninstalled the Asus Suite for now.

When I went into the BIOS Ram would not boot above 2133 on auto even though I had 3200 ram CL16. When I went into this BIOS, (much more limited than the high end mb BIOS), I was able to change the ram setting from "Auto" to "D.O.C.P." (whatever that means). When I did that and choose 2400 ram speed it automatically set all ram settings and it booted! Eventually I upped it to 2666 speed and again it booted. From all the horror stories I've read so far about bricked mbs I'm staying at 2666 for now. From 2133 to 2666 my Aida64 Memory read score (own a licensed version) jumped from @30,000 to @40,000.

Since I have the R7-1800x and since the mb is a lower end one I've decided not to OC the cpu until I receive the Asus Crosshair VI mb.

First the 1800x is pretty darn fast at stock. Aida64 CPU Queen benchmark is @82,300. Cinebench R15 is 1607 to 1630. varied each run slightly.

Second, from all I read the 1800x has very little OCing headroom and you lose the XTR feature if you overclock.

Gaming? I play COD BO III, BF1 and Il2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad and Battle of Moscow. Compared to the other 2 machines the game play is comparable. I prefer single gpus and hopefully a high end Vega may be in the cards later in the year.

If you own a 7700k or even a 6700k it's not worth moving to Ryzen unless you really need more cores and gaming isn't as important.

If you own an X99 mb and a 5930 or 5960x or above, probably not worth it.

I wanted a 3rd All AMD machine that trades blows with my 5960x/GTX 1080 or 6700k/GTX 980TI.

This Ryzen R7 1800x/2 RX480s in CF can stand toe to toe and be competitive.

Sorry for the long story but thought it might help "enlighten" some readers. I have a number of benchmark tools and would be glad to run them with this AMD rig. Just post requests in this thread or PM me.
 
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JimmiG

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Same here with the RAM. 2133 was the max, but after enabling D.O.C.P I have no problems with 2933 MHz.
 

CentroX

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I got my ryzen 1800X stable on all cores @ 4.1 ghz with the C6H. Too bad it decided to bail and brick itself though.
 

CentroX

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Here OP, compare your benchmark against mine:


http://i.imgur.com/xr02TTX.png - ryzen master setup

http://i.imgur.com/1zWHLmg.png - validated cpu-z

http://i.imgur.com/oxHESIN.png - single thread cpu-z

http://i.imgur.com/RZg6Wle.png - multi thread cpu-z

http://i.imgur.com/Lajgr8s.png - cpu z

http://i.imgur.com/zR0c2bU.png - cinebench R15

http://i.imgur.com/Cy6SQNq.png - cinebench R15

Here is Firestrike.

http://i.imgur.com/eJnLMmv.png

Timespy

http://i.imgur.com/NVemcg2.jpg

dolphin 5.0

http://i.imgur.com/uqGReMV.png
 
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TemjinGold

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Good to know about D.O.C.P. I have the same B350 board coming so looking forward to trying that. Has anyone been brave enough to run it higher than 2933? :D
 

SPBHM

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this is one of the good things about it, you have this flexibility of using much cheaper MBs than X99, and you still can OC (probably as you noted not to much with the 1800x, but for the 1700 I think you kind of should always OC a bit), also when they release the ones with 6-4 cores OC will be less of a worry in terms of power draw with those
 

CHADBOGA

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I have enjoyed the various threads on Ryzen and thought I would give my impressions of Ryzen R7-1800x so far.

As you can see from my signature I'm running a 5960x@4.4Ghz with GTX1080 and a second machine with a 6700k@4.6Ghz and a GTX980TI SC. I previously had a 4790k but sold it in anticipation of an AMD Ryzen build.

I have 2 RX480 gpus to go along with the Ryzen cpu so I wanted an all AMD cpu/gpu build.

I decided going "whole hog" on a R7-1800x and an Asus Crosshair VI mb. I wanted to do custom water cooling and got a Thermaltake V51 case to house 2 360mm rads, an EK Supremacy Evo cpu block and an EK D5-140 pump/res combo. I ordered ahead a Corsair 480G NVMe M.2 2280 ssd, 16 g (2x8) of Gskill DDR4-3200 Trident Z ram. I also ordered a new Win 10-32/64 OS on a USB stick (glad I did since you can re-install).

Everything came in except the Asus C6H mb.

I pre-ordered it from Amazon and am waiting like the rest of you for it. Looks like the wait will be long.

Since all of my other parts were in last Friday 3-3, including the cpu, I got "antsy" realizing the wait could be long for the mb.
I decided to take a drive down to the St. David's MicroCenter (@1 hour 15 minutes one way) to see what they had if any X370 mbs. When I called they said a customer had returned a MSI Titanium X370 mb and they would knock $50 off the price. When I got there Saturday afternoon, I talked to a tech who obviously knew and worked with Ryzen, said he had been playing with it for a week. He said the returned MSI X370 Titanium mb had a bricked BIOS and was DEAD. He had no Asus C6H mbs in but warned the one he had earlier also bricked the BIOS.
I was disappointed but he showed me the Asus Prime B350 Plus mb. It did support Crossfire albeit at a lower rate and the sale price was @$100. It was a basic mb but supported M.2. and CrossFire technology with the 350 chipset. I had a $50 gift card and after buying a 2 year replacement warranty for $20, I spent out of pocket $$$ of @$66. Thought it was worth a try.

Well, when I got home later, after dinner I started on the mb. I tried my custom water block but could not get the system to boot (even have the new AM4 backplate from EK). I was honestly a little bummed but remembered I had a fairly new Corsair H110i GT AIO (280mm rad) and much to my delight, the AMD mounting bracket uses clips that attach to the two mb mounts. I decided to use my Fractal Define S case which was used for the 4790k build and I was starting to make progress. I mounted the M.2 2280 ssd, had never used one of those, installed the 2-8g ram chips, installed both Rx480s, my EVGA 850w psu and fired it up. It booted fine. I installed the Windows 10 USB stick and the install went well.

This "cheap" Asus mb was at least giving me a glance of Ryzen. Obviously, I flashed to the newest BIOS for that mb and all went well. I had installed Asus Suite and was able to OC to 3.8 on all cores but went back to stock. It runs at either 3.6 or 3.7 on all cores and actually 2 cores go to 4.1. All stock. I uninstalled the Asus Suite for now.

When I went into the BIOS Ram would not boot above 2133 on auto even though I had 3200 ram CL16. When I went into this BIOS, (much more limited than the high end mb BIOS), I was able to change the ram setting from "Auto" to "D.O.C.P." (whatever that means). When I did that and choose 2400 ram speed it automatically set all ram settings and it booted! Eventually I upped it to 2666 speed and again it booted. From all the horror stories I've read so far about bricked mbs I'm staying at 2666 for now. From 2133 to 2666 my Aida64 Memory read score (own a licensed version) jumped from @30,000 to @40,000.

Since I have the R7-1800x and since the mb is a lower end one I've decided not to OC the cpu until I receive the Asus Crosshair VI mb.

First the 1800x is pretty darn fast at stock. Aida64 CPU Queen benchmark is @82,300. Cinebench R15 is 1607 to 1630. varied each run slightly.

Second, from all I read the 1800x has very little OCing headroom and you lose the XTR feature if you overclock.

Gaming? I play COD BO III, BF1 and Il2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad and Battle of Moscow. Compared to the other 2 machines the game play is comparable. I prefer single gpus and hopefully a high end Vega may be in the cards later in the year.

If you own a 7700k or even a 6700k it's not worth moving to Ryzen unless you really need more cores and gaming isn't as important.

If you own an X99 mb and a 5930 or 5960x or above, probably not worth it.

I wanted a 3rd All AMD machine that trades blows with my 5960x/GTX 1080 or 6700k/GTX 980TI.

This Ryzen R7 1800x/2 RX480s in CF can stand toe to toe and be competitive.

Sorry for the long story but thought it might help "enlighten" some readers. I have a number of benchmark tools and would be glad to run them with this AMD rig. Just post requests in this thread or PM me.
Is game play "smoother" on the Ryzen than the Intel systems you tried it on?
 

hackdrag0n

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I have the 1800x as well and would not recommend it over the 1700 at all. The 1700 runs cooler, is quite a bit cheaper, and can reach more or less the same speeds once overclocked.

That's what I get for pre ordering though.
 

Rifter

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I have the 1800x as well and would not recommend it over the 1700 at all. The 1700 runs cooler, is quite a bit cheaper, and can reach more or less the same speeds once overclocked.

That's what I get for pre ordering though.

Yeah my build looks like it will be a 1700
 

guskline

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Thank you for all of the posts to the thread. First as to Aida64, my licensed version is updated to the beta. I'll run benchmarks then post. Remember, my 1800x is stock clocked but ram is running at 2666.
Memory read 40,655 MB/s
Memory Write 40,214 MB/s
Memory Copy 36,463 MB/s
Memory Latency 92.3 ns
CPU Queen 82,741
PhotoWorxx 20,125 MPixels/s
ZLib 689.3 MB/s
AES 65,386 MB/s
Hash 22,280 MB/s
FPU VP8 7824
FPU Julia 31,014
FPU Mandel 16, 676
FPU SinJulia 12,197
FP32-Raytrace 6,127 Krays/s
FP64 RayTrace 3,403 Krays/s

I will have more benchmarks shortly.
 

guskline

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GeekBench Version 4.04 licensed version cpu benchmarks
Single Core Score 4267
Multi-core Score 20995
 

guskline

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CHADBOGA; The Intel systems are slightly smoother but for a newly released cpu and mb chipset this rig is pretty smooth.
 
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Burpo

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Thanks for the testing & review guskline. I know & trust your assessments, from X58 & up. Nice to read an unbiased review from an esteemed member, and good to see competition for Intel. Much appreciated! :)

Old school me wants to know Cinebench 11.5 score and to add to the data in that thread..

How bad does it beat your X5690?