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My Home buying fiasco...

Namuna

Platinum Member
I am currently renting my Brother-in-Law's house in NY, my wife and I have been in the market for a home for a little while now and we're convinced the ONLY way to get a home (in a DECENT neighborhood) that's a decent size in NY would cost about a 1/2 mil...We don't have that kind of money so we settled on finding something in Jersey (I have friends and family in Jersey).

Just recently, a good friend of mine and his wife got their Realtor licenses for NJ so all the better, we have friends in the business to help us!

Okay, that's a bit of the background, now let's talk about the hell that ensues...

2 Weeks ago, on Sunday we went down to Jersey to look at some places our Realtor friends setup. We saw a bunch and out of all of them there was 1 place that both my wife and I agreed we liked (didn't love it, but did like it). The Seller was asking $239k. Our friends told us that the Seller's place has been on the market for a LONG time and he's ANXIOUS to sell...

To backtrack a moment, our friends told us that there was a NYC Bus that stopped right at the Condo complex (of the place we liked) so that the commute, though a bit long, was easy. Commute is a BIG concern for me, I HATE it! So finding a place with easy commute is IMPORTANT...Hearing that the Bus stops right at the complex made it a good thing...

Back ontrack, we decided that the place is pretty nice and we'd throw a lowball offer at the Seller ($220k was our offer). We expected him to laugh it off, but if he did take it then it was a good enough price to deal with the long commute (still long, but at least it was easy).

The next morning, while I was at work, I had several messages from my friend's Mentor (when you first get your license, they make you work with a 'mentor' for your first few sales before you can go on your own)...The Seller accepted the offer! No haggling either! Wow! We did not expect that! But part of the acceptance was only if we were willing to close QUICKLY.

I'm going to start paraphrasing now, I'd end up writing a book to go through all the details...He accepts the offer. I put in for Pre-Approval ($200 fee). I find out there's no such Bus that comes to the complex!!! I contact my friends and their mentor, and tell them this is a DEAL BREAKER if the commute sucks! The Mentor lady contacts me back, there's a Bus station 2 miles away. This SUCKS, but I've already put in for the Pre-Approve (not to mention getting a really good rate) and gone through a bunch of hassle, so i say lets still do it. We schedule a carpet guy and the home inspector to go to the home to measure for new carpet and inspect the home this passed weekend. The 3-day attorney review period has passed.

Okay, gotta stretch it out again because this is where it gets UGLY...REAL UGLY...

Yesterday (when the carpet guy and inspector were scheduled) we get into town early and so we have enough time to first check out that 2-mile drive to the bus...We get on the road and drive, and drive, and drive! It wasn't 2 miles! It was closer to 10 miles!!! The 2-mile was a hard enough pill to swallow (would have to get a second car, and pay parking, but at least it's only 2 miles and like a 5 minute ride)...But a 10 mile run is a TOTALLY different story! That's AT LEAST a 15minute ordeal (just imagine if there's traffice too!). I can't begin to describe how ANGRY I was! We drive back to the place and the carpet guy and home inspector is there. I tell my friend the deal is OFF!

Remember I said it's already passed the 3-day grace period, and there was a $1,000 deposit involved...At this point in the game, the ONLY way to get out of the deal is if my pre-approval didn't go through or my Lawyer has to talk to their Lawyer and work out something. Well, I called my bank and no way out of the pre-approve (it's pretty much a done deal) and when my Lawyer got back to me (I talked to him and told him to cancel the deal) he informed me that the seller would break the contract...But ONLY if they kept 1/2 the deposit ($500).

So there you have it, I learned a $700 ($500 from deposit, and $200 wasted on pre-approve) lesson through all this...NEVER, NEVER put your trust about IMPORTANT details (like the commute, for me) in other people. I'm EXTREMELY angry with that Mentor that gave that bad info, I made a MAJOR decision (and lost BIG money) based on her giving me that bad info...But I must also accept blame because I didn't verify before moving ahead in the process.
 
im glad you accept some of the blame, lol or i was gonna flame you.


i know when my parents were selling and buying their house they put a contingency plan in the contract and specified a bunch of stipulations which basically lets them get out of the copntract easily if the place doesnt meet their exacting standards. you should try this.
 
I know we put a "final home walkthrough contingency" to let us get out of our contract when we bought our home. Our realtor was very suspicious/untrusting of the seller (he did some odd stuff and the house had been on the market a long time), so she wanted to make sure we had an out if he did something loopy to the house after it was inspected...

At least you found out before you moved in, I have a friend that moved into an apartment for a year, relied on a bus for commuting to work, then found out it was a seasonal route when it didn't show up one day. Only ran during the school year, he was :|
 
So these realator friends who told you there was a bus stop right infront of the complex, they still friends of yours?
 
That's why you need to make sure your agent IS working for you. Did you make sure that the property wasn't listed by the same realtor? Buying a house is no small matter and you should make sure everything is to your liking before you put in that offer. That includes verifying all the stuff you mentioned first hand.
 
Are they still our friends? Barely. They knew they were wrong about the Bus info and we found that out right away...But when the Mentor lady KNEW it was a DEAL BREAKER, she should NOT have given me wrong info...Bottom line though, VERIFY everything first. I had put my trust in them for the information because I'm in NY and can't readily get to that info, that was obviously the wrong thing to do and it WON'T happen again.

The Agent was working for us, when we signed that Offer letter it was clearly shown that my Realtor(s) where working for ME and had no affiliation with the Sellers.

I know neither my friends or the Mentor lady meant to mislead me, they had improper information and I naively went with it (I KNOW I need to get passed this, but MAN they should NOT have given me that info KNOWING how important is was to me).

 
I dunno man, if you ask me, $700 wasn't a bad price to pay for that lesson. It could have been a lot more $$$$.

Of course, I have to say it - it strikes me as somewhat bizarre that you'd base your home purchase around the distance to a bus stop (frankly I'd be happiest if there were no buses anywher near a neighborhood that I lived in) but obviously Florida has a different transportation system than NY/NJ.
 
Originally posted by: flot
I dunno man, if you ask me, $700 wasn't a bad price to pay for that lesson. It could have been a lot more $$$$.

Of course, I have to say it - it strikes me as somewhat bizarre that you'd base your home purchase around the distance to a bus stop (frankly I'd be happiest if there were no buses anywher near a neighborhood that I lived in) but obviously Florida has a different transportation system than NY/NJ.

When you have to commute to Manhattan every day, transportation is a HUGE factor...
 
Realtors = TEH SUCK! :|

Even if they aren't selling the house you are looking at buying (which can be orders of magnitude WORSE), they will do or say just about ANYTHING to close a sale.

When we bought our current house, the inspection revealed at least 6 active leaks in the roof.
Our last realtor balked at asking the seller to pay for a new roof.
She was refusing for all kinds of cockamamie reasons, saying that because it was so late in negotiations, blah blah, they would cancel the contract, etc. etc.

I put it to her this way: "Now that the condition of that roof has been disclosed in an inspection, they'll be putting a new roof on that house no matter who buys it. However, if this isn't communicated to them, then someone other than YOU will be getting the commission for the next house we buy, whether it is this one or a different house."

Needless to say, she will never be our real estate agent again.

BTW: The seller immediately agreed to pay for the new roof with no argument.
 
I ride my bike to work every day if the weather is nice. It's good exercise. 4 miles each way.
Then again I can only dream of buying a house in Silicon Valley with this insane housing market.
 
Your realtor should have made sure that the earnest money agreement included a clause to let you back out and get your earnest money back in this type of scenario (i.e. something about acceptable acess to public transportation, it's usually a standard clause). You have not lost your "Pre-approval" or loan application fee though because you should be able to use that to get a loan on a different property (as long as it is within certain timeframe, generally like 90 days).
I strongly suggest, however, that you find a new realtor.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Your realtor should have made sure that the earnest money agreement included a clause to let you back out and get your earnest money back in this type of scenario (i.e. something about acceptable acess to public transportation, it's usually a standard clause). You have not lost your "Pre-approval" or loan application fee though because you should be able to use that to get a loan on a different property (as long as it is within certain timeframe, generally like 90 days).
I strongly suggest, however, that you find a new realtor.

Good advice, I'd run not walk to the next realtor. I've made several purchases over the last few years with a really good realtor that was referred to me. Bottomline a good RE agent can do wonders, try asking around for referrals. I'm sure a big city like NY should have a few good agents you can work with. Also the people who mentioned that you use a contigency plan in your contract offerer good advice. If you have a real estate lawyer he can help you phrase the contract if you need help.

You still might be able to get some of your money back. If the agency that you worked with is a reputable one, you might be able to talk to the broker. Most agencies usually have an experienced broker who runs the local office, try talking to that person about your situation and if you state your case well you might be able to get a refund especially if they know you're still actively looking for another home. They may still want to try and get your business.

Let us know what happens
 
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