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my gripe with star wars

jhu

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annakin (aka darth vader) is allowed to rejoin his friends on the lighter side of the force even though he destroyed an entire planet. how fvcked up is that?
 

iamfried

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Yes, but prior to his death, he was turned by Luke from the dark side. That's all that matters.
 

SackOfAllTrades

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Through George Lucas interviews, it seems he is trying to convey that Annakin was redeemed when he killed the Emperor. It seems like you are missing the point of spiritual redemption from the Star Wars movies.
 

UberNeuman

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Well, old Darth didn't destroy a planet. Maybe he had a hand in on it... As for Darth rejoining the light side, it was because he gave his life to save his son and allow the destruction of the Empire.... In other words, he got some brownie points...
 

dutchboy

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I agree with jhu...
If i kill someone, and then reform, should i be allowed to continue without any reparations?
 

jhu

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oh i'm gettin' all right. my next project is to cause the sun to nova and then redeem myself so i too can join obiwan
 

jhu

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more like three times at least. so mr. death-and-destruction goes around, kills a bunch of people (and gave the order to destroy alderaan) but is somehow redeemed because he saves his son (who he was going to kill a few hours ago in episode 5). lemme see, kill billions, but save one person to redeem yourself. sounds fair to me! where do i sign up?
 

nullshark

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Nono... Grand Moff (I love that title) Tarkin gave the order to destroy Alderaan, not Vader.
 

iamfried

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<< more like three times at least >>


LOL:D:Q:disgust::frown:
You need to put in a few more viewings. I have seen the trilogy maybe 40-50 times and Star Wars alone maybe 100. Everytime I have a party at my house, Star Wars is on the tv (while music is played in the background) There is absolutely nothing wrong with Annikin kickin it with Obi, and Yoda. IMHO
 

UberNeuman

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I'd agree that Vader's turn was a bit too much after being Hitler for the other two films... But what can you do? I think the Ewoks were the most evil thing in the 'Star Wars' universe - that was until Jar Jar reared his head....
 

AmazonRasta

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RagingBitch, how about I kill your mom, but spare your father's life? Can I be redeemed because I didn't kill your father? I didn't think so.

I have to agree with Jhu on this one.
 

jhu

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the emperor could've been redeemed also. he just needed some lovin'. in the comics he's resurrected over and over ad nauseum.
 

UberNeuman

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That's what most people would call &quot;bad writing.&quot; It goes for most (if not all of the Star Wars novels) - it's just junk meant to bring in more money.
 

FreeFrag

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I agree with Uber Neuman; my friend calls the entire SW Series &quot;Cash Cow&quot;
 

SackOfAllTrades

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That whole &quot;Emperor could have been redeemed&quot; theory is even more hypothetical than my &quot;Lives saved by Emperor's death&quot; theory. But the chances of the Emperor destroying many lives are greater than the Emperor being redeemed, why would he build another Death Star.

You can apply your argument to Obi Wan. Why does he get to chill with Yoda afterlife? He killed Darth Maul with the advantage of his good looks and Scottish accent. He also b1tch slapped Annakin into becoming Darth Vader. He's was indirectly responsible for Alderaan being blown up.

Hell, does Luke get to go? He has quite an impressive kill count as well (chalk up one Death Star full of fathers and sons).

But then you'd prolly say &quot;Well those guys were evil...&quot; or &quot;blah blah blah blah blah.&quot;

Seriously, this discussion can involve many many psycological and sociological factors. All I can say is that it is a movie created to entertain people, and I think it pretty much worked on normal people.