My girlfriend is on the atkins diet UPDATE she is off....

Deeko

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Ugh...she isn't AT ALL overweight, she has been brainwashed by the media that she needs to be under 100 pounds or something. So, four days ago, without telling me, she began the atkins diet, has been feeling like sh!t, finally told me this morning that she's doing it....I don't think she needs to diet at all, but I've heard alot of bad things about this one in particular....is there anything bad she should know, or are they just rumors?

oh yea, 2 days ago she tried giving blood after having only a small, atkins approved breakfast....apparently she almost fainted & threw up
 

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Ugh...she isn't AT ALL overweight, she has been brainwashed by the media that she needs to be under 100 pounds or something. So, four days ago, without telling me, she began the atkins diet, has been feeling like sh!t, finally told me this morning that she's doing it....I don't think she needs to diet at all, but I've heard alot of bad things about it....is there anything bad she should know, or are they just rumors?

oh yea, 2 days ago she tried giving blood after having only a small, atkins approved breakfast....apparently she almost fainted & threw up

Welcome to the wonderful world of women, warped body image and eating disorders. :disgust:
 

Aves

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A guy at work went on the Atkins diet.

He never mentioned getting sick or anything and he did lose 28lbs in 2 months but he says now that he's off of it and eating normally again, the foods that he didn't have for so long taste really weird and kinda make him ill.
 

Aceshigh

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My gf did the same thing last month, she looks great but for some reason she thinks she needs to lose weight. She stuck with it for about 3 weeks, but the lack of carbs made her feel weak all the time. She finally came to her senses.
 

LordJezo

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It works but you shouldnt be on it for too long. It's quite unhealthy in the long run.

From the WebMD article on it:

Atkins' theories remain unproven, and most experts are concerned that Atkins' high-protein, high-fat diet can cause a host of problems, particularly for the large segment of the population that is at risk for heart disease. What's more, the plan doesn't permit a high intake of fruits and vegetables, recommended by most nutrition experts because of the numerous documented health benefits from these foods.
 

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As a scientist, everything I know tells me that this diet is BAD.
As a nurse, everything I know tells me that this diet is BAD.
 

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My girlfriend dropped 15 pounds in one and a half days on this diet but now she's dead!

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No but really the thing can drop off the weight, but losing weight is totally a waste of time unless you're doing it in a manner that you can maintain indefinitely safely. You can't stay on atkins safely forever. Obviously not - if she wants to lose weight and try and keep it off she has to change her diet and excercise. It's that simple. If she cannot do that and lose weight she'll never be able to keep trim after dropping it from an extreme-measures diet like the atkins.
 

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
My girlfriend dropped 15 pounds in one and a half days on this diet but now she's dead!

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No but really the thing can drop off the weight, but losing weight is totally a waste of time unless you're doing it in a manner that you can maintain indefinitely safely. You can't stay on atkins safely forever. Obviously not - if she wants to lose weight and try and keep it off she has to change her diet and excercise. It's that simple. If she cannot do that and lose weight she'll never be able to keep trim after dropping it from an extreme-measures diet like the atkins.

Exactly. This is why, almost invariably, fad and short term diets fail. The only way to effectively take off the weight and keep it off long term is to change your life permanently. This means get at least 3, 30 minute cardio workouts a week, and change your diet to something you will stick with for the rest of your life.

Oh, and diets like this are the main cause of "yo-yo" dieting. And most often, yo-yo dieting leaves you fatter than you were before, and makes your body less able to lose the fat the next time. If you want to see the effects of fad diets, and especially the Atkins diet, just look at Oprah Winfrey. That woman is the poster child for yo-yo dieting.

Any drastic diet change that robs the body of needed nutrients in such a dramatic way will trigger your body's starvation cycle to kick in. Your own body will sabotage you by packing on stores of fat, lowering your metabolism and eating your muscle mass instead of your fat.

In the case of your GF, who isn't heavy to begin with, all she will be doing is training her body to pack on as much fat as it can as soon as she goes back to a regular diet because she starves it of needed nutrients. Your GF may not be fat now, but if she keeps doing these stupid diets, she will be by 30 or 40.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Skoorb
My girlfriend dropped 15 pounds in one and a half days on this diet but now she's dead!

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No but really the thing can drop off the weight, but losing weight is totally a waste of time unless you're doing it in a manner that you can maintain indefinitely safely. You can't stay on atkins safely forever. Obviously not - if she wants to lose weight and try and keep it off she has to change her diet and excercise. It's that simple. If she cannot do that and lose weight she'll never be able to keep trim after dropping it from an extreme-measures diet like the atkins.

Exactly. This is why, almost invariably, fad and short term diets fail. The only way to effectively take off the weight and keep it off long term is to change your life permanently. This means get at least 3, 30 minute cardio workouts a week, and change your diet to something you will stick with for the rest of your life.

Oh, and diets like this are the main cause of "yo-yo" dieting. And most often, yo-yo dieting leaves you fatter than you were before, and makes your body less able to lose the fat the next time. If you want to see the effects of fad diets, and especially the Atkins diet, just look at Oprah Winfrey. That woman is the poster child for yo-yo dieting.

Any drastic diet change that robs the body of needed nutrients in such a dramatic way will trigger your body's starvation cycle to kick in. Your own body will sabotage you by packing on stores of fat, lowering your metabolism and eating your muscle mass instead of your fat.

In the case of your GF, who isn't heavy to begin with, all she will be doing is training her body to pack on as much fat as it can as soon as she goes back to a regular deit, because she starves it of needed nutrients. Your GF may not be fat now, but if she keeps doing these stupid diets, she will be by 30 or 40.

You two have it covered perfectly! :)
 

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2 days ago she tried giving blood after having only a small, atkins approved breakfast
On the Atkins Diet, you can have the fscking hugest breakfast that you've ever seen, provided that it's comprised of little or no carbs. You can eat a fscking 90oz lean steak if you want.

If you want to know about the diet, read about it.

It's a great diet if you also take a few certain vitamines to suppliment it, like Iron and Zinc.

The Atkins diet is 20 grams of carbs per day and that's it. You can have all the meat and all the veggies that you want.

nik
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Aceshigh
My gf did the same thing last month, she looks great but for some reason she thinks she needs to lose weight. She stuck with it for about 3 weeks, but the lack of carbs made her feel weak all the time. She finally came to her senses.

So she started taking suppliments along with the diet? Cool. Because it's a great diet, if you're actually doing it right.

nik
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
2 days ago she tried giving blood after having only a small, atkins approved breakfast
On the Atkins Diet, you can have the fscking hugest breakfast that you've ever seen, provided that it's comprised of little or no carbs. You can eat a fscking 90oz lean steak if you want.

If you want to know about the diet, read about it.

It's a great diet if you also take a few certain vitamines to suppliment it, like Iron and Zinc.

The Atkins diet is 20 grams of carbs per day and that's it. You can have all the meat and all the veggies that you want.

nik

she doesn't eat that much meat though. That's why this isn't good for her, she basically won't be eating much of anything.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
2 days ago she tried giving blood after having only a small, atkins approved breakfast
On the Atkins Diet, you can have the fscking hugest breakfast that you've ever seen, provided that it's comprised of little or no carbs. You can eat a fscking 90oz lean steak if you want.

If you want to know about the diet, read about it.

It's a great diet if you also take a few certain vitamines to suppliment it, like Iron and Zinc.

The Atkins diet is 20 grams of carbs per day and that's it. You can have all the meat and all the veggies that you want.

nik

she doesn't eat that much meat though. That's why this isn't good for her, she basically won't be eating much of anything.

So she's just being stupid. I see. How can you say that she's following the Atkins diet when she's simply not eating!?
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nik
 

Scarpozzi

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The problem here is that she's depriving herself of starches which cause your body to search for them in other places. Most of your energy comes from Carbs or Protiens. The thought of the Atkins diet is that you're body will look for energy by burning fat rather than carbs. The key to being healthy is a BALANCED diet and plenty of exercise. There's no such thing as a magic solution. Tell her that you think she's the most perfect creature on the planet and that you'd like to start exercising with her if she REALLY wants to get in shape. Then at least you're getting to spend time with her and both of you will be staying healthy! :)
 

Sid59

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atkins sucks!

my brother is on it. all the man eats is chicken or steak and a salad.

 

Deeko

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So she's just being stupid. I see. How can you say that she's following the Atkins diet when she's simply not eating!? So she's just being stupid. I see. How can you say that she's following the Atkins diet when she's simply not eating!?
I don't know exactly what she's eating, I only see her every other week. I just know from the past that she doesn't eat lots of meat(a few years ago she had a brief stint as a vegatarian), so unless that drasticaly changed, she can't be eating alot.

Tell her that you think she's the most perfect creature on the planet and that you'd like to start exercising with her if she REALLY wants to get in shape. Then at least you're getting to spend time with her and both of you will be staying healthy!
I said something similar when she told me this:
I don't think you need to diet anyway, I think you're beautiful the way you are, but if you really want to lose weight, I can go running with you or something.
 

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I love these threads. All the one-sided opinions. Here are the facts

Since the 1960's when the food pyramid was instituted, the US popluation has did nothing but expand in their britches. High carb and processed sugar intake the root cause, NOT FAT. THE FOOD PERIOD HAS FAILED! The AMA goes so far is to put their seal of approval on cereals literally made out of pure sugar. The message it sends me is that they like giving little children rotten teeth, so all those dentists and Colgate have business. Atkins works if you follow it. Read the book in its entirety. Some people never make it past chapter 1.

The Atkins diet is 20 grams of carbs per day and that's it. You can have all the meat and all the veggies that you want.

that's only for the induction period. after that you can increase your carb intake.

And BTW, you usually do feel like crap when you begin atkins. You know why? Your body is going thru withdrawal. Just like nicotine, carbohydrates act much of the same way. Insulin levels, blood sugar levels, they go wacko from the lack of carbs, gives you headaches, you feel like crap. That should tell you something now shouldn't it? It will wear off.

she doesn't eat that much meat though. That's why this isn't good for her, she basically won't be eating much of anything

well, that is just dangerous. she needs to go see someone.
 

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Originally posted by: rickn
I love these threads. All the one-sided opinions. Here are the facts

Since the 1960's when the food pyramid was instituted, the US popluation has did nothing but expand in their britches. High carb and processed sugar intake the root cause, NOT FAT. THE FOOD PERIOD HAS FAILED! The AMA goes so far is to put their seal of approval on cereals literally made out of pure sugar. The message it sends me is that they like giving little children rotten teeth, so all those dentists and Colgate have business. Atkins works if you follow it. Read the book in its entirety. Some people never make it past chapter 1.

The Atkins diet is 20 grams of carbs per day and that's it. You can have all the meat and all the veggies that you want.

that's only for the induction period. after that you can increase your carb intake.
Classicaly diet recommendations by gov't organizations are not perfect, nobody would argue that. However, if I'm right about the atkins diet (assuming it's like other super-low carb diets) it induces a state of ketosis. In this state a fat gram needs only 7 calories to burn it off than 9. That's part of the reason it works among others. It's essentially a false starvation state. That just doesn't SOUND healthy.

In addition to that is the fact that regardless of your body weight if you're taking in a buttload of saturated fat each day and red meats and all that you can just kiss your arteries good bye. Might as well go buy a medic alert for when your heart keels over.

These diets do work and for certain people are worth considering. If you're a bodybuilder and need to trim up fast for a competition go for it. However I still maintain that if your ultimate goal is to not only lose weight but also keep that weight off diets like this are CRAP. They are absolutely unmaintainable. If you lose 20 pounds on this and wake up one day and say "whoo hoo I'm thin!" and quit the diet you'll pile all the weight back on. The average person who needs to lose weight should be approaching it from a standpoint of weight management over the long term, and the atkins diet is a poor way to do that. Same thing with weight loss chemicals like hydroxycut. Sure it works very well, but you can't very well stay on that the rest of your life, so once you get off it chances are you'll pile on the weight again, since you'd never learned how to lose weight and keep it off without a trick in the first place.
 

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Your body is going thru withdrawal. Just like nicotine, carbohydrates act much of the same way. Insulin levels, blood sugar levels, they go wacko from the lack of carbs, gives you headaches, you feel like crap. That should tell you something now shouldn't it? It will wear off.
Unlike nicotine or crack withdrawl the reason you feel like crap from the withdrawal of carbs is in great part because your body needs them! Most people over do them but carbs are not evil.
 

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These diets do work and for certain people are worth considering. If you're a bodybuilder and need to trim up fast for a competition go for it. However I still maintain that if your ultimate goal is to not only lose weight but also keep that weight off diets like this are CRAP. They are absolutely unmaintainable. If you lose 20 pounds on this and wake up one day and say "whoo hoo I'm thin!" and quit the diet you'll pile all the weight back on. The average person who needs to lose weight should be approaching it from a standpoint of weight management over the long term, and the atkins diet is a poor way to do that. Same thing with weight loss chemicals like hydroxycut. Sure it works very well, but you can't very well stay on that the rest of your life, so once you get off it chances are you'll pile on the weight again, since you'd never learned how to lose weight and keep it off without a trick in the first place.

It's a lot easier said than done. With the convenience of food, fast food, ads on tv. There is just a lot of temptation. What people need to do realize is that carbs are beneficial, but also dangerous. Carbs = cravings = always thinking about eating = a bunch of fat people. Trying to get people to eat foods in moderation can be very difficult. What Atkins tries to teach you, if you read his book all the way thru, is to re-think the way we look at food, and eat differently, and excercise. Nowhere in his book does he say you cannnot eat veggies or fruits, drink alcohol, eat bread, eat a piece of candy, eat some ice cream. Some people just don't GET IT. I wonder what mankind did before Fritolay and Pepsi.

To the original poster. Get your GF some Ketostix. they are essential for anyone on an Atkin diet. That way she can check her Ketone levels, and this is another way you can determine a limit for your daily Carb intake. Most people can eat 60-100 carbs a day without falling back into the cravings pit

Most people over do them but carbs are not evil

Yes they are. The 300 grams a day recommended by the FDA is the root cause of why americans are so overweight today. Oh, and the convenience of junk food and fast food is another reason
 

Kev

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Is anyone here like me and not pay attention or care about anything they eat?
 

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I would rather be on the girlfriend diet... mmmm
Hey tell me if that works.. I need to lose a pound or 100
 

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Is anyone here like me and not pay attention or care about anything they eat?
You're an American. I'd say most people are like you :)
It's a lot easier said than done. With the convenience of food, fast food, ads on tv. There is just a lot of temptation. What people need to do realize is that carbs are beneficial, but also dangerous. Carbs = cravings = always thinking about eating = a bunch of fat people. Trying to get people to eat foods in moderation can be very difficult. What Atkins tries to teach you, if you read his book all the way thru, is to re-think the way we look at food, and eat differently, and excercise. Nowhere in his book does he say you cannnot eat veggies or fruits, drink alcohol, eat bread, eat a piece of candy, eat some ice cream. Some people just don't GET IT. I wonder what mankind did before Fritolay and Pepsi.

To the original poster. Get your GF some Ketostix. they are essential for anyone on an Atkin diet. That way she can check ger Ketone levels, and this is another way you can determine a limit for your daily Carb intake. Most people can eat 60-100 carbs a day without falling back into the cravings pit
It is much easier said than done, but that's the reason why most people who tend towards a heavier weight left to their own devices will never be as thin as they want. Most people are just too lazy and lack the willpower, which is really what it comes down to. It's noteworthy that of all the people I've ever known who kept a low body fat (lower than they'd have if they just ate whatever and whenever they liked) it's only through consistent vigilance of their diet and excercise. Bouncing back and forth between diets just does not work long term, because when not on the diet the weight goes back on, then you have to diet it back off again in a never ending cycle.